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“Ross is the homie,” Chico says. “He was unconscious of the full effect behind his actions. I know his intentions were good, but it was bad PR for our case. You have niggas still fighting to overturn this shit. It’s not a good look when we’re arguing the allegations were hyped, distortions and straight up fabricated. But then a nigga with nationwide exposure is constantly trying to validate it with glory. Hip-hop/rap music and its content is so powerful. It travels beyond the realm of our ghetto.” Plex gives his take on the matter also. “Chico said it best, but for real, it was lightweight, a sucka move.” Plex says. “Because it’s like he validating what the cracka’s said by putting a Boobie Boys t-shirt on. Who the fuck is the Boobie Boys? Straight up. People don’t even call Black, Boobie. We call him Black. So if dude was out to support his man, he should have put on a Black t-shirt. Still it is what it is. Dude a rapper, he did some rapper shit, so I ain’t mad. I just hope he moves a little more wisely in the future and stands up for his man, Black, when the time comes, you feel me? But as far as Carol City Cartel, I didn’t have nothing to do with that. I was Streetlife Mob. Ross and them were little niggas back then. I did me musically and they’re doing them.” E-4 looks at it all a little differently. “It’s all entertainment,” he says. “I am just glad to see someone from where I used to be reach stardom. I wish Rick Ross all my blessings. I send him all my shout outs.” Rappers have to know where to draw the line between reality and entertainment though. Chico explains why.
“I was in USP Lee County when the Ross Hustlin single dropped,” Chico says. “One morning on my way to the yard my case manager stopped me. He said, ‘Harper, did you see the TV this morning?’ I thought my case had gotten overturned or something. As I looked bewildered and waited for him to continue he said, ‘Your homeboy is representing for you all Boobie Boys. MTV aired the video early this morning.’ This was a middle-aged white dude, living in the mountains of Virginia or nearby in the surrounding area. If Hustlin made it inside of his living room I know damn well it reached the dens and family rooms of the appeal court judges and clerks who were in the process of deciding on our direct appeal. You follow me? Not to mention the many undercover informants who roam amongst us with the duty to report back to them with any info that may be conceivably relevant. You understand? Our appeal was denied shortly after that. Now, I’m not implying that the homie’s comments directly caused it, but indirectly it’s very possible. It’s a slap in the face to certain people. You cannot glorify everything. Especially injurious events.” Chico didn’t sit back though he tried to reach out to the homie, correctional officer turned gangsta rapper Rick Ross.
“When I first got word from the street about Ross’s statements concerning our case I tried to reach out to him.” Chico says. “My intentions were just to explain to him how to be more responsible with his words and actions. After failing to make direct contact with the homie, I sent another homie to the Hustlin video shoot. He spoke to Ross personally and was told that Boobie gave the green light for the attention. My man left Ross with my concerns and that was that. Since he said Boobie had stamped it that’s who I followed up with. I knew Boobie better. That information couldn’t have been accurate. To Ross’s credit Boobie never hit me back. I could only assume that it was true. That fucked me up cause niggas didn’t realize that this was bigger than a rapper trying to be vilified or a villain trying to be glorified. For some cats they might feel some type of commemoration for this type of association, not for me though. Association is what got me convicted in that courtroom and sentenced to life to start with. I didn’t support that shit.” Chico didn’t blame Rick Ross though.
“My beef was with Boobie.” Chico says. “Since then Rick Ross has dropped the M.I.YAYO DVD and continued to give bad PR to our case. And unless somebody with some sense gets in his ear or he grounds himself to a conscientious source he along with other rappers like him are going to continue making it hard on the real characters of their music. And it ain’t nothing gangsta about that. Ross is unconscious. A lot of rappers these days are. Even Tupac was with that name dropping shit. But the O.G.’s pulled him up quick and hipped him. He had real players of the game getting in his ear. He had Mutula, Geronimo, Sinqu and a select few more of the elite soldiers from behind this wall that grounded his ass. His hands on contact with their conscience minds is what made him so advanced beyond the rest. He was fortunate in that way. When he began talking about those brothers much like Scarface did with Larry Hoover they didn’t perpetuate the propaganda surrounding those brothers’ situations. They talked about the injustices that were involved. That’s how you represent for a nigga. Pac and Face learned that. Other rappers don’t so they run reckless with their lyrics, completely oblivious to its consequences.”
“Ross is the homie,” Chico says. “He was unconscious of the full effect behind his actions. I know his intentions were good, but it was bad PR for our case. You have niggas still fighting to overturn this shit. It’s not a good look when we’re arguing the allegations were hyped, distortions and straight up fabricated. But then a nigga with nationwide exposure is constantly trying to validate it with glory. Hip-hop/rap music and its content is so powerful. It travels beyond the realm of our ghetto.” Plex gives his take on the matter also. “Chico said it best, but for real, it was lightweight, a sucka move.” Plex says. “Because it’s like he validating what the cracka’s said by putting a Boobie Boys t-shirt on. Who the fuck is the Boobie Boys? Straight up. People don’t even call Black, Boobie. We call him Black. So if dude was out to support his man, he should have put on a Black t-shirt. Still it is what it is. Dude a rapper, he did some rapper shit, so I ain’t mad. I just hope he moves a little more wisely in the future and stands up for his man, Black, when the time comes, you feel me? But as far as Carol City Cartel, I didn’t have nothing to do with that. I was Streetlife Mob. Ross and them were little niggas back then. I did me musically and they’re doing them.” E-4 looks at it all a little differently. “It’s all entertainment,” he says. “I am just glad to see someone from where I used to be reach stardom. I wish Rick Ross all my blessings. I send him all my shout outs.” Rappers have to know where to draw the line between reality and entertainment though. Chico explains why.
“I was in USP Lee County when the Ross Hustlin single dropped,” Chico says. “One morning on my way to the yard my case manager stopped me. He said, ‘Harper, did you see the TV this morning?’ I thought my case had gotten overturned or something. As I looked bewildered and waited for him to continue he said, ‘Your homeboy is representing for you all Boobie Boys. MTV aired the video early this morning.’ This was a middle-aged white dude, living in the mountains of Virginia or nearby in the surrounding area. If Hustlin made it inside of his living room I know damn well it reached the dens and family rooms of the appeal court judges and clerks who were in the process of deciding on our direct appeal. You follow me? Not to mention the many undercover informants who roam amongst us with the duty to report back to them with any info that may be conceivably relevant. You understand? Our appeal was denied shortly after that. Now, I’m not implying that the homie’s comments directly caused it, but indirectly it’s very possible. It’s a slap in the face to certain people. You cannot glorify everything. Especially injurious events.” Chico didn’t sit back though he tried to reach out to the homie, correctional officer turned gangsta rapper Rick Ross.
“When I first got word from the street about Ross’s statements concerning our case I tried to reach out to him.” Chico says. “My intentions were just to explain to him how to be more responsible with his words and actions. After failing to make direct contact with the homie, I sent another homie to the Hustlin video shoot. He spoke to Ross personally and was told that Boobie gave the green light for the attention. My man left Ross with my concerns and that was that. Since he said Boobie had stamped it that’s who I followed up with. I knew Boobie better. That information couldn’t have been accurate. To Ross’s credit Boobie never hit me back. I could only assume that it was true. That fucked me up cause niggas didn’t realize that this was bigger than a rapper trying to be vilified or a villain trying to be glorified. For some cats they might feel some type of commemoration for this type of association, not for me though. Association is what got me convicted in that courtroom and sentenced to life to start with. I didn’t support that shit.” Chico didn’t blame Rick Ross though.
“My beef was with Boobie.” Chico says. “Since then Rick Ross has dropped the M.I.YAYO DVD and continued to give bad PR to our case. And unless somebody with some sense gets in his ear or he grounds himself to a conscientious source he along with other rappers like him are going to continue making it hard on the real characters of their music. And it ain’t nothing gangsta about that. Ross is unconscious. A lot of rappers these days are. Even Tupac was with that name dropping shit. But the O.G.’s pulled him up quick and hipped him. He had real players of the game getting in his ear. He had Mutula, Geronimo, Sinqu and a select few more of the elite soldiers from behind this wall that grounded his ass. His hands on contact with their conscience minds is what made him so advanced beyond the rest. He was fortunate in that way. When he began talking about those brothers much like Scarface did with Larry Hoover they didn’t perpetuate the propaganda surrounding those brothers’ situations. They talked about the injustices that were involved. That’s how you represent for a nigga. Pac and Face learned that. Other rappers don’t so they run reckless with their lyrics, completely oblivious to its consequences.”
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You are a foolish little cracker arent you??enomujacku;959754 said:remember u said u dont got no biggie hate threads and u asked me to post it if u did? this is pretty much proof. like i said u one of the fakest niggas of all time lol.
Talking about a rappers lyrics is normal behavior, its not "hate", its called discussion, talking about a rappers employment history while pretending to be Tony Montana is abnormal behavior.
Like I said you are the fakest cuban/cracker I have ever heard of from behind a computer.
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thedesolateone
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.why is every one else fake and ross is so real to you h-rap?thedesolateone;959679 said:why isnt rapper ross comfortable with being himself is the question and point of this thread.his beard is nothing but a costume .he is a wannabe rick ross so i imagine his loyal fans are all wannabes too
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enomujacku
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hrap-120;959807 said:You are a foolish little cracker arent you??
Talking about a rappers lyrics is normal behavior, its not "hate", its called discussion, talking about a rappers employment history while pretending to be Tony Montana is abnormal behavior.
Like I said you are the fakest cuban/cracker I have ever heard of from behind a computer.
you got multiple thread downin him, if puttin that much energy into downin a nigga aint hate i dont wat is. u do research to come up wit 40 different homo lines? thats hatin at its finest, but thats the proof of how fake u are right there.
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thedesolateone;959852 said:.why is every one else fake and ross is so real to you h-rap?
Just because a man lies about his employment history it dosent make him "fake".
People lie on their employment applications but that dosent make them "fake".
If the entire rap-music industry embraces you...from veterans like Nas & JayZ to hardcore underground cats like Styles P. & Jadakiss what does that say???
What does it mean when a Black Guerilla Family member like Kool G. Rap is doing songs with you....Street certified dudes like Raekwon are vouching for your realness.
T.I. & Gucci Mane perform with you.......
Conscious artists like Cee-Lo Green & Erykah Badu are a part of your project
Your deuce is a street-certified goon named Bryan "Baby" Williams
Big Meech says you cool peoples, Kenneth "Boobie" Williams says you cool people
No rapper in the industry outside of a 50cent even speaks negatively about you
No rapper from your city has the hustle or muscle to challenge your spot
Sam Ferguson badmouths you and ends up dead, D.J. Vlad ends up with a fractured face for bad-mouthing you.
.....who has a more credible opinion on who's FAKE, some pimple-faced 15 year old kid on his mommies computer who we dont even know or the people I mentioned above????
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Young-Ice;959867 said:I actually agree 100% with this.
but mind you, look at his occupation: rapper.
I dont know why people get all on rauce's ass about this, when Ice cube claimed to be gangsta as fuck, yet is a qualified architect..?
thats very not gangsta
i agree so gay azz dre goin from a SHE THANG 2 a G THANG is gangsta 2 huh?? smh
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gee757;960032 said:i agree so gay azz dre goin from a SHE THANG 2 a G THANG is gangsta 2 huh?? smh
Gee, im just curious as to why you dont type like a normal human being
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sickbizzle
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hrap-120;959980 said:Just because a man lies about his employment history it dosent make him "fake".
People lie on their employment applications but that dosent make them "fake".
If the entire rap-music industry embraces you...from veterans like Nas & JayZ to hardcore underground cats like Styles P. & Jadakiss what does that say???
What does it mean when a Black Guerilla Family member like Kool G. Rap is doing songs with you....Street certified dudes like Raekwon are vouching for your realness.
T.I. & Gucci Mane perform with you.......
Conscious artists like Cee-Lo Green & Erykah Badu are a part of your project
Your deuce is a street-certified goon named Bryan "Baby" Williams
Big Meech says you cool peoples, Kenneth "Boobie" Williams says you cool people
No rapper in the industry outside of a 50cent even speaks negatively about you
No rapper from your city has the hustle or muscle to challenge your spot
Sam Ferguson badmouths you and ends up dead, D.J. Vlad ends up with a fractured face for bad-mouthing you.
.....who has a more credible opinion on who's FAKE, some pimple-faced 15 year old kid on his mommies computer who we dont even know or the people I mentioned above????
he asked why everyone else is fake and Ross is so real to YOU and not all these other people. at least the 15 year old kid on his mommies computer can form his own opinion and make his own judgement without just name droppin a bunch of other rappers.
these people do songs with Ross because they're rappers, that's what they get paid to do, if the shit you're featured on is what's hot then it's a primary way for your career to stay relevant and gain exposure in the mainstream. times are tough in the music industry and these rappers will do whatever to sell so i don't give much credence to a rapper's co-sign as far as proving ''realness'', especially if they're damn near washed up or some wack down south rapper like most of the examples you cited.
to me your argument fails and the constant off topic tangents you attempt trying to attack random internet posters like it's their credibility that's in question is a pathetic attempt at distraction, nobody on this board is claiming to be anything other then a Hip Hop fan posting on the internet - you miss all these people tryin to look all deep in their avatar's like there is some meaning for you to exploit. unlike Ross of course who's rapped about being some huge coke dealer for 4 albums now while he ignores and neglects real life shit like multiple baby momma's and his kids who i doubt are truly rich off cocaine.. or ignoring and lying about being a CO for damn near a year while the rest of the industry was a hold of his graduation picture and laughing at him.
an opinion is an opinion and an honest opinion from an everyday consumer and supporter of Hip Hop >> Rapper trying to stay relevant that dickrides every new trend like Jay-Z who has no shame to exploit any fad - or else give props to Eminem's ''realness' since he's co-signed by a lot more rappers and industry types than Ross -especially Jay-Z and Nas of course.
and if you really want to be convincing then give your own examples and provide reasons for your own opinion, that's all i'm sayin. just be honest with yourself because i'm half tempted to believe you don't even believe half the shit you write and you're just shockposting most of the time - lookin like ya need some attention always pointing out yourself in your avi like anyone gives a fuck.
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so itz ok fa cuuurly 2 lie about gettin shot 9timez when it was really 3timez itz ok fa gay azz dre 2 lie & play da role of a G when he use 2 b a SHE THANG & itz ok fa feminem 2 lie about not bein a racist but itz not already fa ross 2 lie about bein a co?? man fuuuk all yall pussy azz aftermath/shady/ggggay-unit pussy azz brainwash'd dumb fuuuk groupie bitchz!!
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sickbizzle;960285 said:he asked why everyone else is fake and Ross is so real to YOU and not all these other people. at least the 15 year old kid on his mommies computer can form his own opinion and make his own judgement without just name droppin a bunch of other rappers.
these people do songs with Ross because they're rappers, that's what they get paid to do, if the shit you're featured on is what's hot then it's a primary way for your career to stay relevant and gain exposure in the mainstream. times are tough in the music industry and these rappers will do whatever to sell so i don't give much credence to a rapper's co-sign as far as proving ''realness'', especially if they're damn near washed up or some wack down south rapper like most of the examples you cited.
to me your argument fails and the constant off topic tangents you attempt trying to attack random internet posters like it's their credibility that's in question is a pathetic attempt at distraction, nobody on this board is claiming to be anything other then a Hip Hop fan posting on the internet - you miss all these people tryin to look all deep in their avatar's like there is some meaning for you to exploit. unlike Ross of course who's rapped about being some huge coke dealer for 4 albums now while he ignores and neglects real life shit like multiple baby momma's and his kids who i doubt are truly rich off cocaine.. or ignoring and lying about being a CO for damn near a year while the rest of the industry was a hold of his graduation picture and laughing at him.
an opinion is an opinion and an honest opinion from an everyday consumer and supporter of Hip Hop >> Rapper trying to stay relevant that dickrides every new trend like Jay-Z who has no shame to exploit any fad - or else give props to Eminem's ''realness' since he's co-signed by a lot more rappers and industry types than Ross -especially Jay-Z and Nas of course.
and if you really want to be convincing then give your own examples and provide reasons for your own opinion, that's all i'm sayin. just be honest with yourself because i'm half tempted to believe you don't even believe half the shit you write and you're just shockposting most of the time - lookin like ya need some attention always pointing out yourself in your avi like anyone gives a fuck.
I dont think you were were in this conversation, but the 15 year old on his mommies computer might have seemed like it was directed towards you I guess..I can see how it hurt your feelings bad enough to write a 420 word response.
Your opinion is pretty worthless, I dont know you and I never heard of you, and the fact that you can remember what I posted or what is in my avatar is pretty creepy and kinda scary...unless you are a female of course.
Nobody cares what some zit-faced little coward in a wheelchair thinks about Rick Ross, normal people are too busy enjoying the music. You abnormal weirdo's are so unhappy that you cant live your fantasy lives through these rappers.
And oh yeah since you are a silly and ignorant little bitch that cant understand simple statements let me put it like this, Rick Ross is real to me because he fucks with REAL people...you are fake to me because you dont even exist, socially, musically, or otherwise.
Now go wash your dirty face and brush the taste of my shit out of your mouth.
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thedesolateone
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gee757;960032 said:i agree so gay azz dre goin from a SHE THANG 2 a G THANG is gangsta 2 huh?? smh
damn you type like your prince with all these 2s and signs and numbers and shit.you typing is what it sounds like when doves cry
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StillDreaming
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hrap-120;960400 said:I dont think you were were in this conversation, but the 15 year old on his mommies computer might have seemed like it was directed towards you I guess..I can see how it hurt your feelings bad enough to write a 420 word response.
Your opinion is pretty worthless, I dont know you and I never heard of you, and the fact that you can remember what I posted or what is in my avatar is pretty creepy and kinda scary...unless you are a female of course.
Nobody cares what some zit-faced little coward in a wheelchair thinks about Rick Ross, normal people are too busy enjoying the music. You abnormal weirdo's are so unhappy that you cant live your fantasy lives through these rappers.
And oh yeah since you are a silly and ignorant little bitch that cant understand simple statements let me put it like this, Rick Ross is real to me because he fucks with REAL people...you are fake to me because you dont even exist, socially, musically, or otherwise.
Now go wash your dirty face and brush the taste of my shit out of your mouth.
Hallelujah.
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thedesolateone
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read h-rap posts in this thread damn he/she is salted
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That one little weird kid is following you around and quoting your posts and typing your scree-name...are you going to ignore him or give him some attention because he's looking desperate.gee757;960032 said:i agree so gay azz dre goin from a SHE THANG 2 a G THANG is gangsta 2 huh?? smh
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thedesolateone
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gee757;961498 said:^ lol who u talkin about hrap?? it seemz like i got alot of male groupiez on herr...plus u got 1 2 wit that 'thedesolateone' character watz up wit him wherr did he come from???,,
i actually like most of h-raps post and thinks its entertaining but when your wrong your wrong.h-rap lost points from my pov stanning for ross like he has this entire thread
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kingblaze84
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This thread gets funnier and funnier.......well, I guess since Rick Rozay is getting co-signed by much of the industry, I guess Eminem should be praised too......right??
I mean, after all, he gets plenty of love from the industry, actually, MORE LOVE, than Rick will ever get. No more Eminem hate threads......right fellas?
Eminem with G-Unit fans should all make peace with Ricky now, since many of the same guys that hate Eminem with a passion are using the industry to defend Rick Rozay.
I mean, after all, he gets plenty of love from the industry, actually, MORE LOVE, than Rick will ever get. No more Eminem hate threads......right fellas?
Eminem with G-Unit fans should all make peace with Ricky now, since many of the same guys that hate Eminem with a passion are using the industry to defend Rick Rozay.
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kingblaze84;962016 said:This thread gets funnier and funnier.......well, I guess since Rick Rozay is getting co-signed by much of the industry, I guess Eminem should be praised too......right??
I mean, after all, he gets plenty of love from the industry, actually, MORE LOVE, than Rick will ever get. No more Eminem hate threads......right fellas?
Eminem with G-Unit fans should all make peace with Ricky now, since many of the same guys that hate Eminem with a passion are using the industry to defend Rick Rozay.
Your logic is flawed
How many rappers co-sign Emenim just because he is the highest selling rapper on the planet???
How many rappers co-sign Emenim just because he is a token-white rapper
Wouldnt it be smart to CO-SIGN the most popular rapper in the world??
How smart is it to diss Emenim...look at JaRule and Ray benzino.
Rick Ross has never even had a platinum album,
Rick Ross is considered by many to be a regional rapper
Rick Ross has people online calling him a police officer
....so what would an artist have to gain by making music with him or co-signing him?????
I dont know what part of the industry you are talking about that gives Ememim love,
But I can give you a list of respected industry artists and legends that have worked with Ross that have ZERO songs with emenim.
Nas
Cee-Lo
John Legend
Erykah Badu
The Lox
Raphael Saadiq
Young Jeezy
Kool G Rap
I would take that lineup over Bizarre from D12 or Elton John anyday.
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hrap-120;962309 said:Your logic is flawed
How many rappers co-sign Emenim just because he is the highest selling rapper on the planet???
How many rappers co-sign Emenim just because he is a token-white rapper
Wouldnt it be smart to CO-SIGN the most popular rapper in the world??
How smart is it to diss Emenim...look at JaRule and Ray benzino.
Rick Ross has never even had a platinum album,
Rick Ross is considered by many to be a regional rapper
Rick Ross has people online calling him a police officer
....so what would an artist have to gain by making music with him or co-signing him?????
I dont know what part of the industry you are talking about that gives Ememim love,
But I can give you a list of respected industry artists and legends that have worked with Ross that have ZERO songs with emenim.
Nas
Cee-Lo
John Legend
Erykah Badu
The Lox
Raphael Saadiq
Young Jeezy
Kool G Rap
I would take that lineup over Bizarre from D12 or Elton John anyday.
... Ross All Day.........
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