Is Kanye really a genius?

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Finding and chopping samples and making them sound dope ain't no easy task. That's instrumentation within itself. When you can define a whole era of music and still be better than the sons you created, you're certified.
 
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Listen to the Father Stretch My Hand sample then listen to the track. To pick those perfect sections outta the 7 minute song and turn them into what he did isn't easy and not many people could do that

Genius is a strong word though

Edit: Damn Kanye ruined that greatness with his wack lyrics and that sorta rappin' autotune shit
 
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Uh...no

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Anything I could say great about his production is quickly countered by his sub-average lyrics. I cant rightfully say a man that comes up with (or recites) some of the bars he puts down is a genius.. Unless its like autism and he is really good at that (production) and terrible at everything else, like fashion for instance.. Or interviews
 
I was looking for the youtube video of Pete Rock talking about when he sent the artist the finished song of the sample he was asking them to clear .....and that artist could barely recognize his own music from how much Pete had chopped it up off the small portion he used ....

Pete Rock

Ninth Wonder

Dilla

These are just 3 off top who are known for their ability to chop samples up mercilessly ......
 
Whether or not sampling has artistic merit and if Kanye is a genius are two different questions.

1. Sampling has artistic merit if done creatively. Producers such as MC Hammer and Puff Daddy got a bad rap (no pun intended) for sampling easy to recognize 80s hit singles. Even Dr Dre got flack during his G-Funk reign for excessive sampling of Parliament/Funkadelic.

Producers like Q-Tip, DJ Premiere, Pete Rock, RZA, etc. get a pass for finding rare, obscure songs to sample. Songs that would otherwise be forgotten.

2. Kanye was really good at producing music in the early 2000s. From The Blueprint to College Dropout he had his own unique sound and style that could only be matched by Just Blaze and Pharell. But that doesn't make him a genius. It just means he was really good at what he did. He had a staff of people to handle the marketing and promotion and he did his job. I'd say he was in the right place at the right time. I haven't heard his recent material (or his new album) so I can't really comment on The Life of Pablo.

There's hundreds of producers right now on soundcloud that make dope beats but for whatever reason don't have the financial backing to produce an album that would make a dent in todays market. Producers need a major label to pay for sample clearances and connections to a well known artist. Thats how Kanye got his break.
 
Geniuses don't say they are the best at anything, they don't brag...

If Rocafella had a genuis producer it would be Just Blaze
 

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