Is It Wrong or Contrary To Be Black And Christian??

[thespookwhosatbythed]

So I take it neither of you read what I wrote. The same religion supposedly practiced by the slave masters is the same religion that the abolitionist and quakers practiced that took our ancestors in and kept them safe. What about them? Do they not count? White christians marched along side black civil rights leaders, do they get no love? Many white christians lost their lives protecting blacks in the underground railroad, are we to write them off? I think yall are the ones that can't let go.

fuck an abolitionist, quaker, and those muthafuckas who walked in civil rights. they all have something in common though. they were trying to help us(blacks)but we werent the ones terrorizing blacks. why didnt they go talk to their white brotheren who were terrorizing blacks? shows you how much you know.

 

[SL8Rok]

fuck an abolitionist, quaker, and those muthafuckas who walked in civil rights. they all have something in common though. they were trying to help us(blacks)but we werent the ones terrorizing blacks. why didnt they go talk to their white brotheren who were terrorizing blacks? shows you how much you know.

Do you think all white people meet once a week to decide who to oppress/terrorize next? LOL. Thats not how it works. And whites did talk to their white bretheren about the evils of slavery. Thats what the whole abolitionist movement was about. And F the abolitionist, quakers and white civil rights movement members? I tell you niggas can say some really ignorant things sometimes. I guess ALL whites are guilty of enslaving blacks aren't they? You are such a victim. It must truly suck to be you.

 

[thespookwhosatbythed]

Do you think all white people meet once a week to decide who to oppress/terrorize next? LOL. Thats not how it works. And whites did talk to their white bretheren about the evils of slavery. Thats what the whole abolitionist movement was about. And F the abolitionist, quakers and white civil rights movement members? I tell you niggas can say some really ignorant things sometimes. I guess ALL whites are guilty of enslaving blacks aren't they? You are such a victim. It must truly suck to be you.

you dont understand. youre the one who's ignorant. the thang that im sayin is why walk with the people who are enslaved. why not go against the people who are doing the enslaving. in the civil rights era why should you walk with people being persecuted? why not go up to the white people who were doing the persecution. you give all these white people props for walking with the niggaZ but dont want to criticize them for not going to the root of the problem. gtfohwtbs. you either a hunkey or a uncle tom. anyway you swing it you ll never understand.

 

[Chike]

Actually, I am trying to take up Hebrew. I would love to learn the original language of the bible then read it for what it is.

I know were talking about Christianity and what I'm explaining to you is it isn't a bible that is,

"a tool to justify evil acts and bahavior that would otherwise be resisted by any normal thinking intelligent human being, or it is used as a pacifyer for those who think they are good and innocent because they obey the law and have a good job"

God does not justify evil, he hate it. He says you will go to hell for evil acts, only if you do not repent from those evils. How does is that a tool for evil? Again, been taken out of context.

For people who use it as a pacifier, they're using it wrong then. The bible isn't used to say, "oh well I'm good because lookie here, it says so". That's not the point of the bible.

I said Christianity is the tool, not the Bible. Christianity mistranslates the Bible to fit their belief system.

So there were no slaves prior to the 1st century? And how can christianity have been created for slavery when it was created at least 14 centuries before the slave trade. I've heard of conspiracy theories but you guys go wild sometimes.

Christianity as you know it was created out of Rome where they also had slaves. The Christian crusades used that christianity to conquer the moors and re-take Europe but they didn't stop there, the inquisition came next, and then the Slave Trade followed, and now you got the aftermath of people who can't let it go despite Religion not really being that important to the leaders who now rely mostly on TV and the media to brainwash the world.

 

[And Step]

If they are like you? Yes

If they are like Jesus, Marcus Garvey, Willie Wilson, Albert Cleage, Jawanza Kunjufu- No.

 

[alissowack]

There is nothing wrong or contrary to it. It's easy to think it so if you are using culture to define what Christianity says about slavery. Just the fact that term "slave" is in the Bible sets people off on presuppositions they have. The thing is that Blacks to catch "Hell" for doing something that is considered "white" anyway. Get people to drop their presuppositions for a while, and people will at least see that it's not a "Uncle Tom" religion. Whether they believe in it is another story.

 

[The True Flesh]

The threadstarter obviously knows what Christianity really is whereas those of you opposing what he is sying do not.

Sure there are many professing christians who aren't following after the ways of Christ at all, but that has nothing to do with real

Christianity.......if y'all knew anythig you'd know that. So why all the strawmen and ignorant slander? Someone who practices Christianity as described by the threadstarter is your enemy why? how is anything he practices harmful to you?

The teachings of Christ are indeed incompatible with THE MAJORITY of religious systems under the guise of "christianity"

Yeshua (Jesus) was a revolutionary.......

You don't have a revolution where you're begging the system of exploitation to integrate you into it -Malcolm X

Christ is the answer.......you dudes are clueless

PEACE

 

[DarcSkies777]

The religion did not sell blacks into slavery. Correct me if I'm wrong but you do believe in evolution correct? Are you aware that social darwinism which spawned off of evolutionary thought attempted to scientifically justify racism and making white people superior to all other peoples. If you watch Maafa21 it outlines in great detail how blacks were killed, sterilized in mass and diseased for the sake of "scientific" research. Are you now going to stop believeing in science or evolution simply because it caused the death of many blacks? If not why the double standard?

You are only half right.

Religion excused slavery. The so-called science they used to straighten their position wasnt real science at all. The bottom line is they used GOD AND THE BIBLE as an excuse to enslave. They just used science as a means to do it. But there would have been no actions without the religious philosophy to justify said actions. Cant get away from that.

And yes I do believe in evolution but not social Darwinism. Evolution is about adaptation of a species to CO-EXIST and SURVIVE in their environment. Not adapt to destroy everything that moves that doesnt believe in the same God you do.

 

[The True Flesh]

You are only half right.

there would have been no actions without the religious philosophy to justify said actions. Cant get away from that.

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That's the whole problem.......this thread is about True Christianity ie: BIBLICAL TRUTH, Y'all corny asses are always focused on" religious philosophy" and don't have the humility or spiritual discernment to know the difference between the two.

PEACE

 

[VIBE]

I said Christianity is the tool, not the Bible. Christianity mistranslates the Bible to fit their belief system.

Christianity as you know it was created out of Rome where they also had slaves. The Christian crusades used that christianity to conquer the moors and re-take Europe but they didn't stop there, the inquisition came next, and then the Slave Trade followed, and now you got the aftermath of people who can't let it go despite Religion not really being that important to the leaders who now rely mostly on TV and the media to brainwash the world.

Are you talking about modern day Christianity or the past usage of Christianity?

 

[And Step]

Are you talking about modern day Christianity or the past usage of Christianity?

No difference.

 

[And Step]

The threadstarter obviously knows what Christianity really is whereas those of you opposing what he is sying do not.
Sure there are many professing christians who aren't following after the ways of Christ at all, but that has nothing to do with real
Christianity.......if y'all knew anythig you'd know that. So why all the strawmen and ignorant slander? Someone who practices Christianity as described by the threadstarter is your enemy why? how is anything he practices harmful to you?

The teachings of Christ are indeed incompatible with THE MAJORITY of religious systems under the guise of "christianity"

Yeshua (Jesus) was a revolutionary.......

You don't have a revolution where you're begging the system of exploitation to integrate you into it -Malcolm X

Christ is the answer.......you dudes are clueless

PEACE

That view is way too simplistic. Nobody has a problem with Christians per se. I have close friends who are from my vantage point true to the spirit of Christ. My contention is false doctrine used to manipulate and exploit people. You say Biblical Truth. Ok. What about those who say the Bible has been falsely interpreted and translated to deceive people? Many Christians even say this. Are they Anti-Christian? Of course not.

Do you know that there are many Christians who are reevaluating the Bible and it's translation and studying Hebrew and have serious difference with the Bible. Does their view count? Reggie White was probably the most notable, but there are many others.

 

[VIBE]

No difference.

I guess, to an extent. You dudes swear like because you see the way one uses it, they all do. You try so hard to see the negative instead of the positive, people I know aren't like what you think. You guys are the brainwashed folk.

 

[demandred]

If you think race and Christianity mean anything... you are clueless to the perverted and false teachings of something they tossed the title christianity on, also you do not understand the teachings of Christ taught by Christ.... The doctrine from which Christianity stems is Jewish/Hebraic in nature, and has nothing to do with the thieving "whites" at that time who misrepresented the Word, because they had a poor translation nor were they concerned about the LOGOS of the word, but rather abusing it for their own selfish gain

Therefor if anything Blacks should be even more of advent studiers of the WORD to understand it as Christ meant to teach it... not the oppressor...

 

[demandred]

That view is way too simplistic. Nobody has a problem with Christians per se. I have close friends who are from my vantage point true to the spirit of Christ. My contention is false doctrine used to manipulate and exploit people. You say Biblical Truth. Ok. What about those who say the Bible has been falsely interpreted and translated to deceive people? Many Christians even say this. Are they Anti-Christian? Of course not.

Do you know that there are many Christians who are reevaluating the Bible and it's translation and studying Hebrew and have serious difference with the Bible. Does their view count? Reggie White was probably the most notable, but there are many others.

I like this post... and I'm not refuting anything you have said... just tagging off it

The Bible has been falsely interpreted in numerous areas.... the people who have done this, and who are straying people from the absolute teachings of Christ ... Are Anti Christ....

Christ said my family is those who do the Will of God... and the Will of God is in Yeshua's name... Yeshua meaning that God saves... he delivers... he can heal you from this Earthy place of Hell, and restore you to a place of heaven on Earth... but thats only if you are willing to undertake his yoke(teachings).... which is why there is such a force that seeks to keep people far away from the fullness of the Revelation of Christ to people.... the Bible itself isnt enough to teach who Christ is, the book says itself that there wouldnt be enough pages to cover all of the things Christ did.... and everything we need to know... because we are not Jews living in that time period... we need to study that time period and the areas in which he grew up in order to see... why he thought, taught, and lived the way he lived.... the mind of Christ is exceptional

 

[Chike]

Are you talking about modern day Christianity or the past usage of Christianity?

Modern day Christianity is the only religion that was ever called Christianity and it was formulated early in the 'first' millennium. I think first by Julius Caesar with Catholicism and then Constantine with Christianity. BC doesn't even really mean Before Christ, it means Before Caesar. Jesus Christ and Julius Caesar have the same initials and Constantine implemented that into his new power tool called Christianity. They took all the Biblical stories from Ancient Kemet and the original Hebrew Bible and twisted the story to fit their agenda. By the way, Western Civilization of today is still the Roman Empire, it never went anywhere, they just call it something else to throw us off.

 

[janklow]

BC doesn't even really mean Before Christ, it means Before Caesar.

although this would make the notion that Julius Caesar died in 44 BC really weird.

 

[Chike]

although this would make the notion that Julius Caesar died in 44 BC really weird.

Or a lie. *shrug* I mean that's really not that many years difference. You do know they even changed the calendar too, right? The original calender had 13 months and is called the 13 Moon Calendar. Before Europeans took over, the entire world operated off this calendar. So there's no telling exactly what year it is right now, it's most likely not even 2010.

http://www.13moon.com/

 

[SL8Rok]

You are only half right.

Religion excused slavery. The so-called science they used to straighten their position wasnt real science at all. The bottom line is they used GOD AND THE BIBLE as an excuse to enslave. They just used science as a means to do it. But there would have been no actions without the religious philosophy to justify said actions. Cant get away from that.

And yes I do believe in evolution but not social Darwinism. Evolution is about adaptation of a species to CO-EXIST and SURVIVE in their environment. Not adapt to destroy everything that moves that doesnt believe in the same God you do.

1. No religion didn't. People exploiting it to their ends did. In the regress of ideas it wasn't the bible or christianity that excused slavery it was mans twisting it to their ends.

2. Why isn't that the double standard? Scientist, doctors and researchers in various fields used science to kill, mame and sterilize black people under the banner of social darwininsm. They used science to justify this. Yet when we replace christianity with science in that sentence you use the slight of hand technique and say oh well the bible and God excused it while science was only used a means. Which is total hypocrisy. Science was used to excuse it. Evolutionary science was used to provide the basis that whites were superior to blacks and other darker skinned people. Science did excuse this.

3. The religious philosophy is irrelevant because as I've shown the use of the bible to justify evil must be done IN SPITE of other parts of the bible. Where the bible may very well have rules guiding the sell of "slaves" it also condemns to death any who would steal a man and sell him or the people who were in posession of stolen men. Where the bible does tell "slaves" to fear their masters, the bible also says not to vex or oppsess others. So the "religious" philosophy wasn't at all based on the bible but rather on parts of the bible that helped the over all agenda of global domination which is not taught anywhere in the bible.

4. My point exactly you believe in evolution not the bastardization of said ideology. Likewise simply because people take what the bible says out of context to suit their needs doesn't have any impact on the true teachings of that ideology. And further proves my main point that if it wasn't christianity that was used to justify slavery it could have very well been science.

 

[SL8Rok]

If they are like you? Yes

If they are like Jesus, Marcus Garvey, Willie Wilson, Albert Cleage, Jawanza Kunjufu- No.

And what is "like me"?