Is It Wrong or Contrary To Be Black And Christian??

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Sad, just sad, Brothers trying to justify their slave religion because they just can't let go.
 
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Chike;702041 said:
Sad, just sad, Brothers trying to justify their slave religion because they just can't let go.

you aint lying. this nigga want to praise a god that forced your ancestors into slavery. smmfh. and who the hell said we dont agree with the islam part? i hate that shit too. man you just need to kill yourself right now. smh at obtuse. nigga plz
 
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Chike;702041 said:
Sad, just sad, Brothers trying to justify their slave religion because they just can't let go.

How is that? You're the one that just can't let go.

Blue stays schooling people.
 
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Chike;702041 said:
Sad, just sad, Brothers trying to justify their slave religion because they just can't let go.

While I don't believe in Christianity, I don't think Christanity is the problem. For instance, you have a knife that has cut apples for years and then one day someone takes the knife and kills someone. Is it the knife's fault (Christianity)? Or the murderer (slave masters)? As much as I disagree with Christianity, it wasn't created specifically for slavery. Christianity, like anything else, can be used for good or bad.
 
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VIBE86;702093 said:
How is that? You're the one that just can't let go.

Blue stays schooling people.

Let go of what? I used to be a christian until I found out what's really going on. I woke up to reality, and in order to do that, you have to let go of that nonsense.

oliverlang;702207 said:
While I don't believe in Christianity, I don't think Christanity is the problem. For instance, you have a knife that has cut apples for years and then one day someone takes the knife and kills someone. Is it the knife's fault (Christianity)? Or the murderer (slave masters)? As much as I disagree with Christianity, it wasn't created specifically for slavery. Christianity, like anything else, can be used for good or bad.

It actually was, though, that's the thing. lol
 
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Chike;702253 said:
Let go of what? I used to be a christian until I found out what's really going on. I woke up to reality, and in order to do that, you have to let go of that nonsense.

It actually was, though, that's the thing. lol

What's really going on? Stop with the bs linking or "look it up". I want YOU to explain it. SL8Rok is explaining to you how the bible was taken out of context and what he says is not just plausible but true. Just because one's agenda with the following of Christianity is wrong doesn't mean it is all flawed. You have flaws in everything, some type of deceiving in anything. The bible hasn't been proven to be flawed, the people who misuse it have.

But explain to me. Please.

btw, what I mean by "you cannot let go" is that, you're black right? The vast majority of black people hold on to slavery, anything related to slavery is considered evil and whatever you believe. That's what I mean by you cannot let go.
 
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oliverlang;702207 said:
While I don't believe in Christianity, I don't think Christanity is the problem. For instance, you have a knife that has cut apples for years and then one day someone takes the knife and kills someone. Is it the knife's fault (Christianity)? Or the murderer (slave masters)? As much as I disagree with Christianity, it wasn't created specifically for slavery. Christianity, like anything else, can be used for good or bad.

What was the form of christianity that the majority of westerners practice created for? What REAL good comes from Christianity?
 
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melanated khemist;702290 said:
What was the form of christianity that the majority of westerners practice created for? What REAL good comes from Christianity?

There has been good things that came from christianity, such as foundations for the hopeless, inspiration, guidence, food for poor, housing shelters, etc...Also, good and bad are subjective...if you ask any Chrisitian what good has Christianity done for them, they can run down a huge list of why it's been a positive force in their life. With that being said, i also believe that if christianity didn't exist something else would have filled the void. So, like I said...it can be used for good or bad...it's just a tool in my opinion.
 
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oliverlang;702304 said:
There has been good things that came from christianity, such as a foundation for the hopeless, inspiration, guidence, food for poor, housing shelters, etc...however, i also believe that if christianity didn't exist something else would have filled the void. So, like I said...it can be used for good or bad...it's just a tool in my opinion.

I see what your saying, even though i think for the most part it comes from the heart not christianity.
 
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Lets not forget that the people who sold them to the Christians were Muslim.

That said, worshiping in the religion that justified your enslavement is flat out retarded. No excuse what-so-ever for it.
 
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melanated khemist;702339 said:
I see what your saying, even though i think for the most part it comes from the heart not christianity.

I agree. But a Christian will most likely argue that it's their roots that are founded in Christanity that inspire them to do the things they do. *shrugs*
 
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VIBE86;702281 said:
What's really going on? Stop with the bs linking or "look it up". I want YOU to explain it. SL8Rok is explaining to you how the bible was taken out of context and what he says is not just plausible but true. Just because one's agenda with the following of Christianity is wrong doesn't mean it is all flawed. You have flaws in everything, some type of deceiving in anything. The bible hasn't been proven to be flawed, the people who misuse it have.

But explain to me. Please.

btw, what I mean by "you cannot let go" is that, you're black right? The vast majority of black people hold on to slavery, anything related to slavery is considered evil and whatever you believe. That's what I mean by you cannot let go.

Either you're a moron or you're a white guy in denial if you think Black people Hold on to slavery as if it's over and done with and had absolutely no effect on what's going on in this present day, not to mention the BS that's STILL to this day going on. You probably think Racism doesn't exist anymore. So there's no point in explaining anything to you. You're old enough to have been able to see what's going on and clearly made the decision not to care or to dismiss it.

And the point of Christianity is to enslave your mind/soul. It's supposed to make you think your right, even though you got no facts. It is used as either a tool to justify evil acts and bahavior that would otherwise be resisted by any normal thinking intelligent human being, or it is used as a pacifyer for those who think they are good and innocent because they obey the law and have a good job. Not every christian partook in the crusades, inquisition or extermination/enslavement of natives but those who didn't still obeyed the law and didn't fight to oppose them because their mentality is... "Let god sort it out. When we die, we go to heaven, they go to hell"
 
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Chike;702472 said:
Either you're a moron or you're a white guy in denial if you think Black people Hold on to slavery as if it's over and done with and had absolutely no effect on what's going on in this present day, not to mention the BS that's STILL to this day going on. You probably think Racism doesn't exist anymore. So there's no point in explaining anything to you. You're old enough to have been able to see what's going on and clearly made the decision not to care or to dismiss it.

And the point of Christianity is to enslave your mind/soul. It's supposed to make you think your right, even though you got no facts. It is used as either a tool to justify evil acts and bahavior that would otherwise be resisted by any normal thinking intelligent human being, or it is used as a pacifyer for those who think they are good and innocent because they obey the law and have a good job. Not every christian partook in the crusades, inquisition or extermination/enslavement of natives but those who didn't still obeyed the law and didn't fight to oppose them because their mentality is... "Let god sort it out. When we die, we go to heaven, they go to hell"
 
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VIBE86;702550 said:
I apologize for my ignorance of slavery, I shouldn't have said that. I'll leave that be. No, I am not black. I am hispanic/white. Anyway...

I've never thought, THEY GO TO HELL.

When someone preaches the Word of God and they refuse to listen, no matter what, (like here) it's not up to me to tell you, "Chike, you're going to hell". Not my place or even thought. God will be the judge of that.

And God will sort it out, when everyone dies it is sorted out then.

Has the soul been proven? Because the bible speaks of a soul, in which you just verify. The bible doesn't enslave any minds or souls for any bad type of thoughts or actions. The bible guides your mind and soul to the Truth, the Light, the Life, the Way, to God.

If the Christian bible was full of bad mean mean things, then I'd see your point. The FACT is it isn't. You cats take it out of context, and it will not matter how many posts of explanations, proofs, thoughts or anything, you guys will NEVER see the fact behind God. Everything after an answer is, "well.. what about this", someone responds, "well then.. what about this"...

You guys play a game of circles, playing and playing and playing until you think your "logic" or "science" can debunk the bible or God and the fact is no one can. The bible can speak for itself. There is evidence of a flood, it's written in other cultures. It goes on forever. No one can disprove the bible or the existence of God, period, it's IMPOSSIBLE. No matter how much you try, you'll fail. I swear there's a verse for almost every thing you guys argue, the bible says something. DoU has posted them too many times but it's overlooked and said to be "looney, crazy, LOL" type of remarks.

It's the stupid saying, "can you see air?" No but you know its there because we're alive, without it we'd die. God is air, God is everywhere.

For me, THE ONLY WAY to disprove God? Prove actual complex, thinking, breathing, human type life exists on other planets. That is the ONLY way I'd EVER stop believing. And even that, cannot be found. Science has looked and looked and hasn't found anything. Not ONE signal has came back to give us any chance of finding life. The AAT is only a theory, it cannot be proven.

We're not talking about God, we're talking about Christianity. I varified the soul because to me it's a metaphor that distinguishes a person's individuality. God is not the topic, Christianity is. If God was the topic, explain away every other thousands of Gods that belong to all the other religions of the world. The Bible was also written in Hebrew, which if translated into English would make absolutely no sense to us, which is why the Bible is all over the place, mis-translation as well as purposefully mis-translations. Didn't god say, dont put trust in man? Well, man edited and re-translated the Bible. If Christians REALLY want to follow God, they would take it upon themselves to learn Hebrew and read the original Hebrew bible. Otherwise you're a hypocrite or foolish or both.
 
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Chike;702580 said:
We're not talking about God, we're talking about Christianity. I varified the soul because to me it's a metaphor that distinguishes a person's individuality. God is not the topic, Christianity is. If God was the topic, explain away every other thousands of Gods that belong to all the other religions of the world. The Bible was also written in Hebrew, which if translated into English would make absolutely no sense to us, which is why the Bible is all over the place, mis-translation as well as purposefully mis-translations. Didn't god say, dont put trust in man? Well, man edited and re-translated the Bible. If Christians REALLY want to follow God, they would take it upon themselves to learn Hebrew and read the original Hebrew bible. Otherwise you're a hypocrite or foolish or both.

Actually, I am trying to take up Hebrew. I would love to learn the original language of the bible then read it for what it is.

I know were talking about Christianity and what I'm explaining to you is it isn't a bible that is,

"a tool to justify evil acts and bahavior that would otherwise be resisted by any normal thinking intelligent human being, or it is used as a pacifyer for those who think they are good and innocent because they obey the law and have a good job"

God does not justify evil, he hate it. He says you will go to hell for evil acts, only if you do not repent from those evils. How does is that a tool for evil? Again, been taken out of context.

For people who use it as a pacifier, they're using it wrong then. The bible isn't used to say, "oh well I'm good because lookie here, it says so". That's not the point of the bible.
 
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thespookwhosatbythedoor;702080 said:
you aint lying. this nigga want to praise a god that forced your ancestors into slavery. smmfh. and who the hell said we dont agree with the islam part? i hate that shit too. man you just need to kill yourself right now. smh at obtuse. nigga plz

So I take it neither of you read what I wrote. The same religion supposedly practiced by the slave masters is the same religion that the abolitionist and quakers practiced that took our ancestors in and kept them safe. What about them? Do they not count? White christians marched along side black civil rights leaders, do they get no love? Many white christians lost their lives protecting blacks in the underground railroad, are we to write them off? I think yall are the ones that can't let go.
 
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Chike;702253 said:
Let go of what? I used to be a christian until I found out what's really going on. I woke up to reality, and in order to do that, you have to let go of that nonsense.

It actually was, though, that's the thing. lol

So there were no slaves prior to the 1st century? And how can christianity have been created for slavery when it was created at least 14 centuries before the slave trade. I've heard of conspiracy theories but you guys go wild sometimes.
 
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melanated khemist;702290 said:
What was the form of christianity that the majority of westerners practice created for? What REAL good comes from Christianity?

EXACTLY it was a FORM of christianity.....but it was NOT Christianity.
 
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DarcSkies777;702341 said:
Lets not forget that the people who sold them to the Christians were Muslim.

That said, worshiping in the religion that justified your enslavement is flat out retarded. No excuse what-so-ever for it.

The religion did not sell blacks into slavery. Correct me if I'm wrong but you do believe in evolution correct? Are you aware that social darwinism which spawned off of evolutionary thought attempted to scientifically justify racism and making white people superior to all other peoples. If you watch Maafa21 it outlines in great detail how blacks were killed, sterilized in mass and diseased for the sake of "scientific" research. Are you now going to stop believeing in science or evolution simply because it caused the death of many blacks? If not why the double standard?
 
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