Is It Worth Buying Any Other Mase Album Outside Of Harlem World?

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5 Grand;c-10117990 said:
Turfaholic;c-10117984 said:
5 Grand;c-10117950 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10117908 said:
macadonwoo;c-8760318 said:
I'm I the only one who liked Harlem World The Movement.

Group Album ?

"YOOOOOO MAKE ME FEEEEEL


My shit


I don't see how people say Nas fell off between I Am and Stillmatic.


Of course his dickriders didnt see it. Besides a few hot singles Nas wasn't shit. And it's still that way in 2017. Khaled name's a track "Nas Album Done" & y'all got moist. I respect Nas legacy. Downloaded a album or 2. Paid for the Nigger album. But him being included in GOAT talk is ludacris.


I think you mean ludicrous.


This is a hip-hop 4um
 
5 Grand;c-10117950 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10117908 said:
macadonwoo;c-8760318 said:
I'm I the only one who liked Harlem World The Movement.

Group Album ?

"YOOOOOO MAKE ME FEEEEEL


My shit


I don't see how people say Nas fell off between I Am and Stillmatic.


His skills never diminished but his direction was lackluster in that time it had looked like the game was passing him by, looking back there’s nothing cornier than Nas calling himself Escobar or Nastradamus, he should of deaded Escobar after the firm flop and Nastradamus should of never happened but you can’t deny he was still killin shit hell he was still in his prime, he just needed to get back to being Nasty Nas that’s what he needed that’s what the game needed
 
Turfaholic;c-10117984 said:
Of course his dickriders didnt see it. Besides a few hot singles Nas wasn't shit. And it's still that way in 2017. Khaled name's a track "Nas Album Done" & y'all got moist. I respect Nas legacy. Downloaded a album or 2. Paid for the Nigger album. But him being included in GOAT talk is ludacris.

its....JOHN B;c-10119348 said:
His skills never diminished but his direction was lackluster in that time it had looked like the game was passing him by, looking back there’s nothing cornier than Nas calling himself Escobar or Nastradamus, he should of deaded Escobar after the firm flop and Nastradamus should of never happened but you can’t deny he was still killin shit hell he was still in his prime, he just needed to get back to being Nasty Nas that’s what he needed that’s what the game needed

Nosign.

Nas was annihilating mixtapes circa 98-01

Its Mine - Mobb Deep feat Nas

Hot Boys - Missy feat Nas, Q Tip and Nas

Did You Ever Think - R Kelly feat Nas

He even had a shelved album called Death Of Escobar which would have come out between Nastradamus and Stillmatic

The Death of Escobar (abbreviated as D.O.E.) is a 2001 unreleased concept album by New York-based rapper Nas. The title is a reference to Nas's alternative persona of Nas Escobar, which was seen as a much more mainstream appealing alter ego by fans.

For over a decade, much information about the album was unknown. Pictures of the purported album had surfaced through the internet for a decade and had a barcode provided as well, which meant that there was planned distribution for the album. Nonetheless, for years, the album was debated by hip hop heads for years, whether it was the working title for Nas's eventual December 2001 release Stillmatic, a cancelled concept album, or was a fan-made fake.

In 2014, The Lost Tapes Blog, run by claaa7, revealed that in fact, the album was real, and was intended to be the first part of the Stillmatic album, but was cancelled before it was released, and instead re-released, and re-titled, as The Lost Tapes in 2002.

01. "My Way" [prod. by Alchemist]

02. "You Don't Know Me (Hardest Thing 2 Do)" [prod. by Poke & Tone]

03. "Your Mouth Got You In It" [prod. by Dame Grease]

04. "Rise & Fall" [prod. by Poke & Tone]

05. "U Gotta Love It" [prod. by L.E.S.]

06. "Make It Last Forever" [prod. by L.E.S.]

07. "Worst Enemy is Me" [prod. by Infinite Arkatechtz]

08. "The Foulness (Interlude)" [prod. by Poke & Tone]

09. "Sinful Living (Street Dreams Remix)" (Ft. R. Kelly) [prod. by Poke & Tone]

10. "Never Gonna Give It Up" (Ft. Product G&B) [prod. by Al West]

11. "Tales From Da Hood" [prod. by Curt Gowdy]

12. "Drunk By Myself" [prod. by Poke & Tone + Al West]

13. "Hard 2 Tell - Remix" [prod. by Large Professor]

14. "Projects 2 Hot" (Ft. 50 Cent & Nature) [prod. by CHOP DIESEL]

15. "Poppa Was A Playa" [prod. by Deric Angelettie & Kanye West]

16. "Seeds Of Heaven" [prod. by Infintie Arkatechtz]

Notes:

Tracks 1, 5, 6, 7, 12, 13, and 15 would appear on The Lost Tapes, albeit a few with altered names, and 7 & 13 being only available in Japan and other markets.

This was 50 Cent's intended debut on a major album; the song "Projects Too Hot" would appear on his 2002 solo Guess Who's Back.

"Poppa Was a Playa" was one of Kanye West's first major productions.
http://lostmediawiki.com/Nas_-_The_Death_of_Escobar_(found_rap_album;_2001)

Anybody that thought Nas fell off between 98-01 wasn't listening to mixtapes.
 
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A shelved album that eventually dropped in 2002 doesn’t help your case, like I said his skills never diminished and was in fact still in his prime and was still killing shit BUT what people remember is Nastradamus which was a dissapointment and badly reviewed (even though I was bumping it in my first car), and Nas holding on to that Escobar persona way too long, Oochie Wally and you owe me were his biggest hits between I am and Stillmatic, the noise he was making compared to Jay and DMX was minuscule

 
its....JOHN B;c-10119575 said:
A shelved album that eventually dropped in 2002 doesn’t help your case, like I said his skills never diminished and was in fact still in his prime and was still killing shit BUT what people remember is Nastradamus which was a dissapointment and badly reviewed (even though I was bumping it in my first car), and Nas holding on to that Escobar persona way too long, Oochie Wally and you owe me were his biggest hits between I am and Stillmatic, the noise he was making compared to Jay and DMX was minuscule

Not really, this song was #1 for 18 weeks on Billboard


Hot Boyz" is a song by American hip hop recording artist Missy Elliott featuring American singer and songwriter Lil' Mo. The remix version of the song was an urban hit featuring Nas, Eve and Q-Tip. The remix broke the record for most weeks at number-one on the US R&B chart on the issue dated January 15, 2000; as well as spending 18 weeks at number one on the Hot Rap Singles from December 4, 1999 to March 25, 2000, which is still the longest reign at number one to date on that chart. The song also reached number 5 on the US Hot 100 on January 15, 2000. In the UK, the song became the biggest hit from the Da Real World album; it peaked at #18, being Missy's sixth top 40 and fourth top 20 solo success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Boyz_(song)

Granted, he wasn't selling 5X plat like Jay and DMX but between his mixtape stuff and his features he was still one of the hottest MCs of that era.

 
“Escobar CBR bikes I’m switching gears headlights shine so bright bitches freeze like deers”


“Call big brother Esco now let’s go”

There’s no question he was still spitting but the streets wasn’t feeling Esco like that, the game didn’t stop like it did for Stillmatic and pretty much every album after
 
5 Grand;c-10117990 said:
Turfaholic;c-10117984 said:
5 Grand;c-10117950 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10117908 said:
macadonwoo;c-8760318 said:
I'm I the only one who liked Harlem World The Movement.

Group Album ?

"YOOOOOO MAKE ME FEEEEEL


My shit


I don't see how people say Nas fell off between I Am and Stillmatic.


Of course his dickriders didnt see it. Besides a few hot singles Nas wasn't shit. And it's still that way in 2017. Khaled name's a track "Nas Album Done" & y'all got moist. I respect Nas legacy. Downloaded a album or 2. Paid for the Nigger album. But him being included in GOAT talk is ludacris.


I think you mean ludicrous.


nah that's a double entendre. he's talking about how Ludacris is sometimes included with the goats by some fans, but he ain't really have the impact that some people think

you gotta read between the lines 5
 
5 Grand;c-10119589 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10119575 said:
A shelved album that eventually dropped in 2002 doesn’t help your case, like I said his skills never diminished and was in fact still in his prime and was still killing shit BUT what people remember is Nastradamus which was a dissapointment and badly reviewed (even though I was bumping it in my first car), and Nas holding on to that Escobar persona way too long, Oochie Wally and you owe me were his biggest hits between I am and Stillmatic, the noise he was making compared to Jay and DMX was minuscule

Not really, this song was #1 for 18 weeks on Billboard


Hot Boyz" is a song by American hip hop recording artist Missy Elliott featuring American singer and songwriter Lil' Mo. The remix version of the song was an urban hit featuring Nas, Eve and Q-Tip. The remix broke the record for most weeks at number-one on the US R&B chart on the issue dated January 15, 2000; as well as spending 18 weeks at number one on the Hot Rap Singles from December 4, 1999 to March 25, 2000, which is still the longest reign at number one to date on that chart. The song also reached number 5 on the US Hot 100 on January 15, 2000. In the UK, the song became the biggest hit from the Da Real World album; it peaked at #18, being Missy's sixth top 40 and fourth top 20 solo success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Boyz_(song)

Granted, he wasn't selling 5X plat like Jay and DMX but between his mixtape stuff and his features he was still one of the hottest MCs of that era.


You can use him having a featured verse on a remix to someone else's song as your main argument for him being hot in that period
 
DarthRozay;c-10119698 said:
5 Grand;c-10119589 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10119575 said:
A shelved album that eventually dropped in 2002 doesn’t help your case, like I said his skills never diminished and was in fact still in his prime and was still killing shit BUT what people remember is Nastradamus which was a dissapointment and badly reviewed (even though I was bumping it in my first car), and Nas holding on to that Escobar persona way too long, Oochie Wally and you owe me were his biggest hits between I am and Stillmatic, the noise he was making compared to Jay and DMX was minuscule

Not really, this song was #1 for 18 weeks on Billboard


Hot Boyz" is a song by American hip hop recording artist Missy Elliott featuring American singer and songwriter Lil' Mo. The remix version of the song was an urban hit featuring Nas, Eve and Q-Tip. The remix broke the record for most weeks at number-one on the US R&B chart on the issue dated January 15, 2000; as well as spending 18 weeks at number one on the Hot Rap Singles from December 4, 1999 to March 25, 2000, which is still the longest reign at number one to date on that chart. The song also reached number 5 on the US Hot 100 on January 15, 2000. In the UK, the song became the biggest hit from the Da Real World album; it peaked at #18, being Missy's sixth top 40 and fourth top 20 solo success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Boyz_(song)

Granted, he wasn't selling 5X plat like Jay and DMX but between his mixtape stuff and his features he was still one of the hottest MCs of that era.


You can use him having a featured verse on a remix to someone else's song as your main argument for him being hot in that period


That remix broke the record for being #1. It was #1 for 18 weeks and that record still stands. Can't say that about Jay Z or DMX who were selling more units at the time.
 
5 Grand;c-10119759 said:
DarthRozay;c-10119698 said:
5 Grand;c-10119589 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10119575 said:
A shelved album that eventually dropped in 2002 doesn’t help your case, like I said his skills never diminished and was in fact still in his prime and was still killing shit BUT what people remember is Nastradamus which was a dissapointment and badly reviewed (even though I was bumping it in my first car), and Nas holding on to that Escobar persona way too long, Oochie Wally and you owe me were his biggest hits between I am and Stillmatic, the noise he was making compared to Jay and DMX was minuscule

Not really, this song was #1 for 18 weeks on Billboard


Hot Boyz" is a song by American hip hop recording artist Missy Elliott featuring American singer and songwriter Lil' Mo. The remix version of the song was an urban hit featuring Nas, Eve and Q-Tip. The remix broke the record for most weeks at number-one on the US R&B chart on the issue dated January 15, 2000; as well as spending 18 weeks at number one on the Hot Rap Singles from December 4, 1999 to March 25, 2000, which is still the longest reign at number one to date on that chart. The song also reached number 5 on the US Hot 100 on January 15, 2000. In the UK, the song became the biggest hit from the Da Real World album; it peaked at #18, being Missy's sixth top 40 and fourth top 20 solo success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Boyz_(song)

Granted, he wasn't selling 5X plat like Jay and DMX but between his mixtape stuff and his features he was still one of the hottest MCs of that era.


You can use him having a featured verse on a remix to someone else's song as your main argument for him being hot in that period


That remix broke the record for being #1. It was #1 for 18 weeks and that record still stands. Can't say that about Jay Z or DMX who were selling more units at the time.


but it wasn't his song. and featured 3 other artists. so sure, you can add that under his accolades, I guess, but you can't really say he's the reason for it breaking that record and being #1 for so long. that shit would be #1 with or without a nas verse
 
DarthRozay;c-10119698 said:
5 Grand;c-10119589 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10119575 said:
A shelved album that eventually dropped in 2002 doesn’t help your case, like I said his skills never diminished and was in fact still in his prime and was still killing shit BUT what people remember is Nastradamus which was a dissapointment and badly reviewed (even though I was bumping it in my first car), and Nas holding on to that Escobar persona way too long, Oochie Wally and you owe me were his biggest hits between I am and Stillmatic, the noise he was making compared to Jay and DMX was minuscule

Not really, this song was #1 for 18 weeks on Billboard


Hot Boyz" is a song by American hip hop recording artist Missy Elliott featuring American singer and songwriter Lil' Mo. The remix version of the song was an urban hit featuring Nas, Eve and Q-Tip. The remix broke the record for most weeks at number-one on the US R&B chart on the issue dated January 15, 2000; as well as spending 18 weeks at number one on the Hot Rap Singles from December 4, 1999 to March 25, 2000, which is still the longest reign at number one to date on that chart. The song also reached number 5 on the US Hot 100 on January 15, 2000. In the UK, the song became the biggest hit from the Da Real World album; it peaked at #18, being Missy's sixth top 40 and fourth top 20 solo success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Boyz_(song)

Granted, he wasn't selling 5X plat like Jay and DMX but between his mixtape stuff and his features he was still one of the hottest MCs of that era.


You can use him having a featured verse on a remix to someone else's song as your main argument for him being hot in that period


Jay Z got clout off Annie, Jermaine Dupri and UGK.. stop it slime
 
buttuh_b;c-10120087 said:
DarthRozay;c-10119698 said:
5 Grand;c-10119589 said:
its....JOHN B;c-10119575 said:
A shelved album that eventually dropped in 2002 doesn’t help your case, like I said his skills never diminished and was in fact still in his prime and was still killing shit BUT what people remember is Nastradamus which was a dissapointment and badly reviewed (even though I was bumping it in my first car), and Nas holding on to that Escobar persona way too long, Oochie Wally and you owe me were his biggest hits between I am and Stillmatic, the noise he was making compared to Jay and DMX was minuscule

Not really, this song was #1 for 18 weeks on Billboard


Hot Boyz" is a song by American hip hop recording artist Missy Elliott featuring American singer and songwriter Lil' Mo. The remix version of the song was an urban hit featuring Nas, Eve and Q-Tip. The remix broke the record for most weeks at number-one on the US R&B chart on the issue dated January 15, 2000; as well as spending 18 weeks at number one on the Hot Rap Singles from December 4, 1999 to March 25, 2000, which is still the longest reign at number one to date on that chart. The song also reached number 5 on the US Hot 100 on January 15, 2000. In the UK, the song became the biggest hit from the Da Real World album; it peaked at #18, being Missy's sixth top 40 and fourth top 20 solo success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Boyz_(song)

Granted, he wasn't selling 5X plat like Jay and DMX but between his mixtape stuff and his features he was still one of the hottest MCs of that era.


You can use him having a featured verse on a remix to someone else's song as your main argument for him being hot in that period


Jay Z got clout off Annie, Jermaine Dupri and UGK.. stop it slime


not sure what you mean. only one of those instances was a song that wasn't on his albums.
 
macadonwoo;c-8760318 said:
I'm I the only one who liked Harlem World The Movement.

Group Album ?

"YOOOOOO MAKE ME FEEEEEL

I DIDN'T COP, BUT A FRIEND GAVE IT TO ME B/C HE HATED IT...

CAN'T LIE, IT DID HAVE SOME JOINTS, BUT OVERALL, IT WAS KIND OF WEAK...

FROM HINDSIGHT....

ITS PRETTY INTERESTING HOW IT HAS EARLY KANYE, JUST BLAZE & NEPTUNES PRODUCTION...

MA$E IN HIS PRIME DEFINITELY HAD AN EAR FOR WHAT'S NEXT...

AS FOR THE ACTUAL GROUP...

THEY ALL SOUNDED ALIKE. SLOW FLOW W/ NO TONGUES

S/O TO CARDAN THOUGH...

HE GHOSTWROTE ALOT AFTER THIS GROUP FELL-THROUGH
 
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