Is hov officially the GROAT?

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Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh
 
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.
 
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something
 
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Blueprint gave him the shine if you ask Kanye he will tell you.

Nobody was checking on Kanye and just blaze till they did the blueprint.

Jay was executive producer on lupes first Album
 
power_wisdom;c-9906688 said:
usmarin3;c-9906618 said:
power_wisdom;c-9905169 said:
usmarin3;c-9904555 said:
power_wisdom;c-9899435 said:
usmarin3;c-9899170 said:
When i judge a rapper i just technical abilities, catalog, and impact. I think he check the box more than any other rapper imo. To me Jay and Dre got the strongest lineage in rap as far as who they put on or influenced.

The only person Jay really most definitely put on was Bleek, Source Money and Cole. And only one of them had a good career. Everybody else it was Dame. Jay didn't discover Jeezy, or Ross. Nas put Cormega, Nature, Natshawn, AZ , Wiz and Jungle,Quan and the first to work with Ameri. And lets not forget Dave East.

Ross himself said Jay and LA Reid put him on.

Ross had a deal with Slip n Slid first. I believe Bleek brought him to their attention. Jay didn't get on a Ross record and make it hot as a first single. And he didn't feature Ross on his record to introduce him to the public. Ross made himself a star with hard work.

usmarin3;c-9904551 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9899280 said:
usmarin3;c-9899170 said:
When i judge a rapper i just technical abilities, catalog, and impact. I think he check the box more than any other rapper imo. To me Jay and Dre got the strongest lineage in rap as far as who they put on or influenced.

Who did jay put on?

Beans

Ye

Just Blaze

Lupe

Cole

Ross

Etc

Just Blaze is a producer. That shit don't count. Plus he did records with other rapper before Jay. Kanye brought Lupe out to the world on Touch the sky. But Lupe had a deal already to be honest. Jay didn't put him on either. Dame put Ye on not Jay. Jay had nothing to do with that album. But he did put on Ja Rule.

Put on mean to break the artist to the world or the first to sign them right?

Just Blaze first hit and full credit came from Jay. He ghost produced, but it was Jay who gave him his break. Food and Liquor was executive produced by Jay. Kanyes first major verse I've heard was on the Blueprint 2 album. Jay used Kanye and Just when they were nobodies in the time period of the Neptune's and Timbalands reign.

Wrong, Just Blaze was credited on Killah Priest second album and Buckshot BDI album. As I said Lupe got his first national shine on Kayne album. Before his album came out. We talking about putting someone on or executive producers? Kanye did songs with Foxy Brown, Harlem World, and Goodie Mob before he did the Blueprint.

What I wrote previous was in reply to you
 
GetoBoy;c-9906795 said:
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something

Jaz o,Mary j,big,dame,Biggs,kalvin,amarie,
 
trendsetta1030;c-9906988 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906795 said:
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something

Jaz o,Mary j,big,dame,Biggs,kalvin,amarie,

Jaz O - yeah

MJB and Big were on HIS album

Dame and Biggs were his business partners

Who the fuck Kalvin and Amarie
 
Mr 202;c-9906887 said:
Blueprint gave him the shine if you ask Kanye he will tell you.

Nobody was checking on Kanye and just blaze till they did the blueprint.

Jay was executive producer on lupes first Album

I think it's a little weird to say Jay put a producer on though. After all, Blueprint is only classic material because of the production, so it was less "Jay putting Ye on" and more "Jay picking the best production for his album which happened to come from Ye." Kanye even spoke on it a while ago, how he would make beats that weren't even intended for Jay, but Jay would hear them and insist they be on his album. I guess my point is that good producers will blow up regardless. They don't need particular rappers to put them on.
 
Revolver Ocelot;c-9906993 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9906988 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906795 said:
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something

Jaz o,Mary j,big,dame,Biggs,kalvin,amarie,

Jaz O - yeah

MJB and Big were on HIS album

Dame and Biggs were his business partners

Who the fuck Kalvin and Amarie

Mjb had a name

Put a famous bitch on a hook now you sold millions-nas

Big had a name

1st album no famous guest appearance- nas

Dame n biggs were not his partners they were his bosses

Kelvin & amarie were his partners who funded the so call interview were Dame said jay started comin arnd wit money givin em his image
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9907053 said:
Mr 202;c-9906887 said:
Blueprint gave him the shine if you ask Kanye he will tell you.

Nobody was checking on Kanye and just blaze till they did the blueprint.

Jay was executive producer on lupes first Album

I think it's a little weird to say Jay put a producer on though. After all, Blueprint is only classic material because of the production, so it was less "Jay putting Ye on" and more "Jay picking the best production for his album which happened to come from Ye." Kanye even spoke on it a while ago, how he would make beats that weren't even intended for Jay, but Jay would hear them and insist they be on his album. I guess my point is that good producers will blow up regardless. They don't need particular rappers to put them on.

Wit out ye bp woulda jus been black album fill wit just blaze an timbo productions b4 tha black album
 
I guess some people need Jay Z to die, so these pick-N-choose niggas can give him the G.O.A.T. status"

Naw, he's good where he at, alive and making history.
 
GetoBoy;c-9906795 said:
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something

Jaz O. Lupe had a deal before Alantic too. Remember that. He had a label partner and they was already doing things. Jay didn't get Lupe off the streets and get him a deal. That's why he didn't sign to the Roc. Would Jay had put Joey Bad Ass on if he sign to him, even though you heard of him already?
Mr 202;c-9906887 said:
Blueprint gave him the shine if you ask Kanye he will tell you.

Nobody was checking on Kanye and just blaze till they did the blueprint.

Jay was executive producer on lupes first Album

A producer going work regardless. They both was up and coming. And both had worked with major artists. So no Jay didn't put on Ye and Just. What's next Jay put on 9th wonder? Artist can't make a producer hot. It's the other way around.
 
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trendsetta1030;c-9907238 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9906993 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9906988 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906795 said:
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something

Jaz o,Mary j,big,dame,Biggs,kalvin,amarie,

Jaz O - yeah

MJB and Big were on HIS album

Dame and Biggs were his business partners

Who the fuck Kalvin and Amarie

Mjb had a name

Put a famous bitch on a hook now you sold millions-nas

Big had a name

1st album no famous guest appearance- nas

Dame n biggs were not his partners they were his bosses

Kelvin & amarie were his partners who funded the so call interview were Dame said jay started comin arnd wit money givin em his image

Dame and biggs was his partners you dumb ass. They all owned rocafella. Which is why Jay was able to sell his portion back to def jam and get the others to do as well. Could Kendrick make dre sell aftermath? Stop acting like you know everything in here. You don't know, ask
 
Built 4 cuban linx;c-9907521 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9907238 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9906993 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9906988 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906795 said:
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something

Jaz o,Mary j,big,dame,Biggs,kalvin,amarie,

Jaz O - yeah

MJB and Big were on HIS album

Dame and Biggs were his business partners

Who the fuck Kalvin and Amarie

Mjb had a name

Put a famous bitch on a hook now you sold millions-nas

Big had a name

1st album no famous guest appearance- nas

Dame n biggs were not his partners they were his bosses

Kelvin & amarie were his partners who funded the so call interview were Dame said jay started comin arnd wit money givin em his image

Dame and biggs was his partners you dumb ass. They all owned rocafella. Which is why Jay was able to sell his portion back to def jam and get the others to do as well. Could Kendrick make dre sell aftermath? Stop acting like you know everything in here. You don't know, ask

Dame n Biggs were originally his boss it wasn't up till vol1 jay became a partner when they got the deffjam deal… an Kendrick did not start wit dre or dre wit Kendrick goofy bao… I'm here stating facts!
 
The votes are 71-44 No

Jay isn't the "official" GROAT

To be the "official" GROAT he'd need to win the poll by a large margin.

Mods need to lock this. The votes have been counted.
 
trendsetta1030;c-9907571 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;c-9907521 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9907238 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9906993 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9906988 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906795 said:
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something

Jaz o,Mary j,big,dame,Biggs,kalvin,amarie,

Jaz O - yeah

MJB and Big were on HIS album

Dame and Biggs were his business partners

Who the fuck Kalvin and Amarie

Mjb had a name

Put a famous bitch on a hook now you sold millions-nas

Big had a name

1st album no famous guest appearance- nas

Dame n biggs were not his partners they were his bosses

Kelvin & amarie were his partners who funded the so call interview were Dame said jay started comin arnd wit money givin em his image

Dame and biggs was his partners you dumb ass. They all owned rocafella. Which is why Jay was able to sell his portion back to def jam and get the others to do as well. Could Kendrick make dre sell aftermath? Stop acting like you know everything in here. You don't know, ask

Dame n Biggs were originally his boss it wasn't up till vol1 jay became a partner when they got the deffjam deal… an Kendrick did not start wit dre or dre wit Kendrick goofy bao… I'm here stating facts!

Kys white suburban boy
 
trendsetta1030;c-9907571 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;c-9907521 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9907238 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9906993 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9906988 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906795 said:
power_wisdom;c-9906790 said:
GetoBoy;c-9906774 said:
Lol at ppl giving 100 ppl credit for putting on Jay but when it come to Jay putting somebody on he gotta be the only one putting that person on outside of they momma smh

Do you know what putting on means? You put that person in the game by putting the spot light on them for the first time. Or discovering and signing the artist. Ja had videos out as a group member, but Jay put him on as a solo artist. Same as Bleek Source Money and Beenie. The other people that was named he didn't put on.

So who put Jay on??? Let's see how this answer works becuz ppl make it out like 10 ppl are responsible for Jay career but niggas wanna act like even when rappers say Jay helped put em on or get them their deal that actually put them in the spot light they lying or something

Jaz o,Mary j,big,dame,Biggs,kalvin,amarie,

Jaz O - yeah

MJB and Big were on HIS album

Dame and Biggs were his business partners

Who the fuck Kalvin and Amarie

Mjb had a name

Put a famous bitch on a hook now you sold millions-nas

Big had a name

1st album no famous guest appearance- nas

Dame n biggs were not his partners they were his bosses

Kelvin & amarie were his partners who funded the so call interview were Dame said jay started comin arnd wit money givin em his image

Dame and biggs was his partners you dumb ass. They all owned rocafella. Which is why Jay was able to sell his portion back to def jam and get the others to do as well. Could Kendrick make dre sell aftermath? Stop acting like you know everything in here. You don't know, ask

Dame n Biggs were originally his boss it wasn't up till vol1 jay became a partner when they got the deffjam deal… an Kendrick did not start wit dre or dre wit Kendrick goofy bao… I'm here stating facts!

Kys white suburban boy
 

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