Is Hip Hop Promoting Demasculinizing The black Male?

[Meta_Conscious]

"hip hop" should not be the representation of black males or our masculinity. nor should "prison culture".

prisoners and rappers make up a small proportion of blacks. too small to be a representation of anything. they are also controlled by whites. this is the true issue.

 

[*~queenbee~*]

I don't think it's just about these rappers wearing dresses and skirts.. Dudes are out here straight acting like women! The difference between Prince and them niggas back then vs cats now is. Prince didn't act like no woman. This is why people felt like he could take yo girl, same as a dude like Dre 3000. Dudes now are wearing dresses, rocking Beyonce hair talking about surfboard and shit. That's why dudes are mad because the stars are wearing that shit, and it's trickling down to social media and got dudes straight up on some feminine shit.

You're right, he acted like a gay man. Now that I think about it, i don't think it was an act.

 

[Wild Self]

Part of the problem is that Hip Hop has created a standard of being this super tough guy that never takes an L and gets all the girls. Hip Hop has brainwashed us into thinking we have to be alpha males, super males. Some people, especially those that didn't have a father figure or a positive male role model growing up don't know what it means to be an alpha male, or never had the genes to be an alpha male in the first place.

According to the rules of hip hop, if somebody disses you, you have to diss em back. You have to carry a gun in case anybody messes with you, you have to have a lot of tattoos and look like a tough guy. Its those images that we fall victim to and for those of us that are unlucky enough to be born in the hood, that ideology leads strait to prison.

It seems like its one extreme or the other, you either have to be Mr tough guy and if you're not Mr tough guy then you must be a faggot.

Yeah. Chuck D warned these fellas about worshipping the super thug shit from the early 90s onwards. That shit turned to cancer that made a lot of lost black men into savages and committing crimes to "keep it real." Now, we dealing with feminized dudes getting massive exposure. Our communities went from MLK and Malcolm X to a bunch of coons and demons harping ills to get them props from other lost people. Rap is Dave Chappelle status these days.

 

[Wild Self]

too many beta's runnin around america these days....just make it easier for us alphas

The so called alpha male is getting shitted on in every spectrum. Even these young girls are more attracted to the feminine ass dudes and clowning the masculine dudes.

 

[rapmusic]

It's crazy cause you got dudes looking like women and women trying to look like tough dudes. Women are claiming to be bi sexual and fall in love with these Mannie Fresh looking ass women which got the man all confused. He don't know what the fuck to look like these days. I mean look at the reactions when you see a super fine ass chick holding hands with some chick who looks like Allen Iverson or Lil Boosie and shit. Chicks be like I hate a feminine ass dude but love those dude chicks. I think this adds to the problem also with the fact that hiphop is reflecting the sign of the times. I went to the University of Georgia last Saturday for a workshop and was amazed at how out these guys are now. There were like 5 gay folks in the session and one dude was super out straight talking about is he single and shit... A chick was in there with the iverson cornrows talking about her wife. I mean she wasn't super dudeish but she looked the part.

 

[lordhonka2]

Man this thread could be a mile long. you wan this to stop be a father to your sons and a husband to you wife. at the core of this problem is the lack of a family unit. Its hard for single mother to raise men( not impossible) and its harder for girls to recognize a man when they have never seen a real one on a daily basis. if your son spends every single day with his mom he gonna have female traits There is nothing the "media" can do to make feminization of the black male ok if it dont already exist.

 

[Like Water]

Man this thread could be a mile long. you wan this to stop be a father to your sons and a husband to you wife. at the core of this problem is the lack of a family unit. Its hard for single mother to raise men( not impossible) and its harder for girls to recognize a man when they have never seen a real one on a daily basis. if your son spends every single day with his mom he gonna have female traits There is nothing the "media" can do to make feminization of the black male ok if it dont already exist.

 

[Ear2DaSt]

 

[loch121]

they put this thread on the frontpage

 

[onthafly]

Part of the problem is we automatically equate masculinity with gangsta shit. Niggas don't know how to be a man without tryna be gangsta.

 

[onthafly]

The skirt wearing needs to GO

Whomever rocks that shit

So, anyone want to ask this type of dude, "Take off your fur print tank top and skirt, you look like a bitch fucking up the culture!"?

Wearing a skirt doesn't make you a bitch. Acting like a bitch makes you a bitch. He can be gay, tranvestite, whatever, that's his business but I just feel like this is some cheap publicity shit people pull to get a buzz now. Ellen Page came out as gay, all thse new draft picks are coming out as gay... just gives them more column inches to fill selling stories and giving out soundbites.

I feel like you can be cool talking about how you're living and put your feelings out there without having to talk about your private or sex life. Keep your personal and private business that way, I don't need to know if the person who designed my shoes sucks dick, eats cooch or does both. Considering fashion, acting and the arts have long been the place for the queer of folk so it's not new or avoidable anyway.

Also hot pink is actually a very masculine colour in Asia, particularly Thailand. It's a case of cultural traditions varying:
http://visual.ly/what-colors-mean-different-cultures

Why do people always make these arguments? We don't live in Thailand. We live in the U.S. and here skirts are for women. These dudes are knowingly choose to dress in a feminine manner. What other cultures do is irrelevant. What these people are doing is being done based on their own cultural standards and norms.

... because the US is a young country compared to most others? You heard the term historical precedent? Anything going on in America is a result of the people that migrated their forming a melting pot culturally. It is not the be all and end all of world culture, it's only a couple hundred years old. In America black people used to be for working and raping only but the culture changed for the most part, right? The idea of victimising gay people just for being gay and the way they dress is as prejudice as assuming someone is gay for wearing pink or that if you're a man in America, you can't wear certain things when there is the constitutional right to freedom of expression. So you live in the US, not Thailand? Fine. Then understand that the principles of the nation state in accordance with the constitution, itself having been reformed over time, basically defend the idea of freedom to wear what you want and say what you want. That is the established cultural standard as set out by US government legislation. You argue what other cultures do is irrelevant, which has can be proven to be bullshit right now everywhere from Korea to China to Crimea right now to the whole eurodance club sound on records for years now, and if that's your view, alright, but when your own country defends those principles and the idea of a cosmopolitan culture it undermines such a position particularly when that black man doesn't come across as lacking in masculinity to me if he's wearing a skinned animal pelt.

FUCK ALL that bullshit you talking this is hip-hop and we don't support faggots we are a form of counter culture. We have out own ideas of what manhood is. period end of story. All this bullshit you are talking about legislation and and nation states have nothing to do with hip-hop futher more black people in america are also a sub culture and we also don't really support this faggot shit. But you motherfuckers never stop trying to convince us otherwise.

smdh at niggas lettin hip hop form their idea of what manhood is. I guess that's what you have to turn to when you don't have a father to show you what man hood is. I just wish an older nigga would have taught ya'll fatherless niggas somethin.

 

[onthafly]

I don't think it's just about these rappers wearing dresses and skirts.. Dudes are out here straight acting like women! The difference between Prince and them niggas back then vs cats now is. Prince didn't act like no woman. This is why people felt like he could take yo girl, same as a dude like Dre 3000. Dudes now are wearing dresses, rocking Beyonce hair talking about surfboard and shit. That's why dudes are mad because the stars are wearing that shit, and it's trickling down to social media and got dudes straight up on some feminine shit.

Those dude's are probably actual out of the closet faggots. That's nothing new.

 

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