to be fair, i don't think either of those can be stated as definitively staged:kingblaze84;7065061 said:-so let's hope there's no false flag operations or some staged event for war to happen (see Vietnam and Spanish American War)
-no one seems certain what the hell happened to the USS Maine, but either way, the situation seems to have been "ship blew up, let's make the best of it" rather than an actual false flag;
-Gulf of Tonkin is weird because there was an initial (mild) attack and then a second supposed attack that, you know, didn't actually happen. but they didn't fake an attack and we were kind of already IN Vietnam, so...