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Myayoni is bored;1350915 said:
You are in america wondering why african americans cant relate when someone who looks just like them says "i'm not AA"?

Surely you've taken a class on race or partially understand the history of blacks in this country to figure out the answer to this yourself.

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The_Introvert;1350711 said:
Right foreign born blacks don't want to claim black but hop on every American black trend they see on TV.

we claim black but not african american. oh wait, i do claim african american on financial aid forms ha ha.
 
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Myayoni is bored;1350915 said:
You are in america wondering why african americans cant relate when someone who looks just like them says "i'm not AA"?

Surely you've taken a class on race or partially understand the history of blacks in this country to figure out the answer to this yourself.

Im in your state YO
 
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It stems from the fact that:

A. we live in a Eurocentric society and are socially conditioned to look down on pretty much any/all aspects that descend from the dark continent. Anywhere that Eurorpeans have touched or hold some influences, your bound to find this thinking. This is especially the case with those who are of Black/Spanish/Indigenous Indian descent. You guys have such a high European influence on your culture that I imagine (well actually its well documented ) colorism (which is intertwined with apathy of Africa somewhat) exists to a significant degree in your culture. The level at which it exists is up for debate, but lets not kid ourselves, it exists.

And it exists her in America as well, im not gonna lie. But at the end of the day, its pretty clear here in America that light-skinned or dark-skinned your a nigga. The effect skin tone that has on your life iin America probably could be gauged, but i'd bet money that the amount of which skin tone affects your life is much higher in Caribbean and Latin America countries (higher European influence and all).

B. The misunderstanding that "not relating to African Americans and their struggle"="Disowning of African Ancestry" . While I think correlation probably does exist between the two, they're not mutually exclusive concepts. Its very possible for one to be a very proud African and not stand by African Americans or even care for them. But imo, it's a very idiotic, douchebag-esque, and elitist way of thinking. Whether your from Botswana or Brooklyn, to the rest of the world, your a nigga. Our struggle is your struggle.

While it is quite natural to not see any common ground, it is quite critical that Blacks realize that pretty much every problem that Blacks worldwide face is the result of a singular attitude of " FUCK ALL THEM NIGGAS" and that until that changes, niggas everywhere are going to keep getting styled on. Seperating yourself, attributing the problem AA's do face to a deficiency within the people, and saying its not my problem only continues the cycle.

C. (ties in with B. but...)-A lack of understanding of nationality, ethnicity, and the standard of Race that the U.S. (and brazil) go by-Due to the fact that Brazil and the U.S. had the largest slave trades, we're two of few countries we're you'd never have to bring up your ethnicity/nationality.We mostly go by and identify by racial designation over everything. What im not saying is that ethnicity/nationality isn't important to many people here, it just isn't as much as a designator as it is in say Britain.

So with that said, its a tendency to assume that when someone born and raised in africa says they're not African American, they're saying so out of an assumed denunciation of their African ancestry. When the reality is they may feel that the term AA only applies to blacks born in America. Of course they also may denounce the term due to a low opinion of African Americans and a desire to not be confused with them. There's really no way of knowing.
 
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Fooley;1350269 said:
Of course they do it, especially for them white folks. They try to separate from AAs. But then when them white folks want to kick they hoe ass out the country they want help from us. I say fuck em.
GOSPEL right here.

Those fucking fly magnets will latch on to Black EVERYTHING when their asses are in trouble. And nobody says they cant be African American. But saying you're not Black is dumb as fuck.

BUt soon as your Haitian & Dominican asses get deported or harassed or shot by the pigs you begging for help & crying racism. FUCK OUTTA HERE. Working at a fucking muffler shop & driving a Taxi talking about you live the American Dream.....from your dash board.
 
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J-GUTTA;1350801 said:
Quit your belly aching Sp!c and choose a side. Hasn't your time on the IC shown you that Black Americans don't generalize or can be prejudice. I myself am light skinded black man with Indian in my family (that explains my hair) from Harlem the real Harlem not that sp!c sh!t. So now that that's settled I'm off to Ikea.

Bendición

*does sign of cross*

I saw Devil last night and the Baby Joker from Next Friday was in it and started praying in spanish, take a guess which prayer he was scared when he was saying it, and I was laughing my ass of and my girl was looking at me like I was crazy lol...
 
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Myayoni is bored;1350915 said:
You are in america wondering why african americans cant relate when someone who looks just like them says "i'm not AA"?

Surely you've taken a class on race or partially understand the history of blacks in this country to figure out the answer to this yourself.

you know me better than that...i like discussions...
 
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Knives Amilli;1351282 said:
It stems from the fact that:

A. we live in a Eurocentric society and are socially conditioned to look down on pretty much any/all aspects that descend from the dark continent. Anywhere that Eurorpeans have touched or hold some influences, your bound to find this thinking. This is especially the case with those who are of Black/Spanish/Indigenous Indian descent. You guys have such a high European influence on your culture that I imagine (well actually its well documented ) colorism (which is intertwined with apathy of Africa somewhat) exists to a significant degree in your culture. The level at which it exists is up for debate, but lets not kid ourselves, it exists. And it exists her in America as well, im not gonna lie. But at the end of the day, its pretty clear here in America that light-skinned or dark-skinned your a nigga. The effect skin tone that has on your life iin America probably could be gauged, but i'd bet money that the amount of which skin tone affects your life is much higher in Caribbean and Latin America countries (higher European influence and all).

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i actually agree with alot of what you said in the rest of your post but this part...I think what alot of people seem to forget when discussing the Spanish/European influence in latin america and the caribbean they tend to forget the strong African influence that still exists too, and that's something that is clear as day so I don't know how people always seem to miss it...yes colorism exists and it does exists within certain groups of people but it's very much over hyped by Black Americans from what I've seen...and as far as how my skin color would be received in latin america...i'm brown skinned but cuz of my mom, she's panamanian/spanish i'd get a pass for being considered mixed if I really wanted to....my race has affected me much more dealing with AA's than it has with other latinos...
 
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Its true. If you stay tryna separate yourself from people that look like you, you got self hate. You can rep your nationality/race or w/e but to always be on some I'm this and I'm NOT that/them type of shit is weird.
 
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m. trinidad;1351995 said:
Its true. If you stay tryna separate yourself from people that look like you, you got self hate. You can rep your nationality/race or w/e but to always be on some I'm this and I'm NOT that/them type of shit is weird.

Nice summation of my titangraph.
 
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