In your opinion who are the Top 5 Producers out right now???

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soul rattler;4276213 said:
Beatmakers are producers. There are more similarities between the two than differences. You don't hear people crowning Diddy the hottest producer of the 90's.

They not really the same bruh...
 
A producer is a person who is there throughout the entire song making process

The beatmaker just gives the artist the beat and has no other input
 
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KingJamal;4276528 said:
A producer is a person who is there throughout the entire song making process

The beatmaker just gives the artist the beat and has no other input

Yeah. I didnt feel like going into it but youre right

But the beatmaker lays the foundation for the record. Another TYPE of producer determines the rest of the record(recording artists, concept, etc)
 
rip.dilla;4276533 said:
I wonder how a "beatmaker" would survive over 20 years in the game and still remain relevant

Most beatmakers with longevity work with a group of other beatmakers, producers and instrument musicians

But im sure you meant the guy with fruityloops just randomly tapping on keys and looping it
 
KingJamal;4276528 said:
A producer is a person who is there throughout the entire song making process

The beatmaker just gives the artist the beat and has no other input

^This.

Beatmaker: Makes the beat. nothing more.

Producer: Sees/hears the song as a whole/Responsible for the final product.
 
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Kushington;4276558 said:
rip.dilla;4276533 said:
I wonder how a "beatmaker" would survive over 20 years in the game and still remain relevant

Most beatmakers with longevity work with a group of other beatmakers, producers and instrument musicians

But im sure you meant the guy with fruityloops just randomly tapping on keys and looping it

I'm actually referring to DJ Premier. Most dudes on here always refer him as a "beatmaker". I don't get that shit really.

Dude has produced whole albums for rappers
 
listen...... a beat maker is not a producer.

if u downloaded fruity loops last year, you are a beat maker, if ur lucky.

if you work with artists and have some sort of creative input and make the beat and then sequence the beat around the artist, your a producer. if your make beats and then have a band come up to reinterpret the beat and replay it live, you are a producer.

if you press buttons on your qwerty keyboard on FL or ableton, your not a producer. and just because you take the stock sounds from reason or FL and sequence them does not make you a beat maker. more like a shitty sound programmer......

big fucking differences....... lol

most self proclaimed producers i know cant even keep count with the time signature. lol.

producers understand music theory and how it applies to the music.
 
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rip.dilla;4276586 said:
Kushington;4276558 said:
rip.dilla;4276533 said:
I wonder how a "beatmaker" would survive over 20 years in the game and still remain relevant

Most beatmakers with longevity work with a group of other beatmakers, producers and instrument musicians

But im sure you meant the guy with fruityloops just randomly tapping on keys and looping it

I'm actually referring to DJ Premier. Most dudes on here always refer him as a "beatmaker". I don't get that shit really.

Dude has produced whole albums for rappers

he just conducted that regeneration with like a 50 piece orchestra

some ppl just type to get they post count up...

 
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nyst8ofmin;4276702 said:
rip.dilla;4276586 said:
Kushington;4276558 said:
rip.dilla;4276533 said:
I wonder how a "beatmaker" would survive over 20 years in the game and still remain relevant

Most beatmakers with longevity work with a group of other beatmakers, producers and instrument musicians

But im sure you meant the guy with fruityloops just randomly tapping on keys and looping it

I'm actually referring to DJ Premier. Most dudes on here always refer him as a "beatmaker". I don't get that shit really.

Dude has produced whole albums for rappers

he just conducted that regeneration with like a 50 piece orchestra

some ppl just type to get they post count up...

And premier could still flip and loop a sample, throw some drums on it and sell it to christina aquilera or some shit, give her a vision for the record and get production credit

Some beatmakers are producers, but niggas cant say a producer like diddy knows anything about the musical side, aside from the direction he wants the record to go
 
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Kushington;4276739 said:
nyst8ofmin;4276702 said:
rip.dilla;4276586 said:
Kushington;4276558 said:
rip.dilla;4276533 said:
I wonder how a "beatmaker" would survive over 20 years in the game and still remain relevant

Most beatmakers with longevity work with a group of other beatmakers, producers and instrument musicians

But im sure you meant the guy with fruityloops just randomly tapping on keys and looping it

I'm actually referring to DJ Premier. Most dudes on here always refer him as a "beatmaker". I don't get that shit really.

Dude has produced whole albums for rappers

he just conducted that regeneration with like a 50 piece orchestra

some ppl just type to get they post count up...

And premier could still flip and loop a sample, throw some drums on it and sell it to christina aquilera or some shit, give her a vision for the record and get production credit

Some beatmakers are producers, but niggas cant say a producer like diddy knows anything about the musical side, aside from the direction he wants the record to go

Thts just arrogant. How u no what diddy knows ? 20 years in the studio and u think puff cant produce a record With an mpc? Gtfoh
 
nyst8ofmin;4276810 said:
Kushington;4276739 said:
nyst8ofmin;4276702 said:
rip.dilla;4276586 said:
Kushington;4276558 said:
rip.dilla;4276533 said:
I wonder how a "beatmaker" would survive over 20 years in the game and still remain relevant

Most beatmakers with longevity work with a group of other beatmakers, producers and instrument musicians

But im sure you meant the guy with fruityloops just randomly tapping on keys and looping it

I'm actually referring to DJ Premier. Most dudes on here always refer him as a "beatmaker". I don't get that shit really.

Dude has produced whole albums for rappers

he just conducted that regeneration with like a 50 piece orchestra

some ppl just type to get they post count up...

And premier could still flip and loop a sample, throw some drums on it and sell it to christina aquilera or some shit, give her a vision for the record and get production credit

Some beatmakers are producers, but niggas cant say a producer like diddy knows anything about the musical side, aside from the direction he wants the record to go

Thts just arrogant. How u no what diddy knows ? 20 years in the studio and u think puff cant produce a record With an mpc? Gtfoh

puff daddy doesnt know how to make beats, thats not his lane

If he will proudly proclaim "dont worry if i write rhymes, i write checks", he doesnt care about the music, he has motives besides good music, if he cared about good music he wouldnt have such a horrible track record with his artists, in 3 years something bad will happen to french montana and mgk because diddy will be finished with them, theyve served their purpose and its on to the next act

People like kanye, pharell, rza...make beats because they actually like to do it
 
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The ignorance of some posters is astonishing. To me fair, we really do not know how many ghost producers big named producers use. I just found out Swizz Beats has a ton of ghost producers he uses.
 
yeah i rap so don't ;4276922 said:
The ignorance of some posters is astonishing. To me fair, we really do not know how many ghost producers big named producers use. I just found out Swizz Beats has a ton of ghost producers he uses.

where u read that
 
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Vader;4277570 said:
yeah i rap so don't ;4276922 said:
The ignorance of some posters is astonishing. To me fair, we really do not know how many ghost producers big named producers use. I just found out Swizz Beats has a ton of ghost producers he uses.

where u read that

I didn't read it, the homie had signed a deal under a group. They ghost produce for Swizz. He knows Jadakiss too and I almost kicked him off the phone for that violation. Have not really spoken to him in years.
 

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