In poll after poll, why are so many Americans so dissatisfied with America today?

[kingblaze84]

People are just Jaded about life.

We have so much access to everything that we stumble on a whole lotta stuff that hurts to hear about.

and this is the era of shocking headlines.

The Minute you try to be happy about life hurricane Ursula comes through and f*cks up your shit.

The Minute you try to be happy about life.. you end up having a stomach ache... end up going to the emergency room to get part of your colon removed.

Thats why we drink, and smoke and do all types of things to keep our minds busy.

Also white people just stay mad cause they're about to be a minority in a few decades.

I hear ya but White people are not really gonna be a minority in a few decades if you include Hispanics. Most Hispanics in the USA or a plurality of them consider themselves White.

 

[Shuffington]

^Thats true..but the white people in these polls don't seem to be to welcoming of that fact that hispanics consider themselves white tho.

White people still consider hispanic people, Hispanic.. which doesn't equal white in any capacity. Remember, we're talking about irrational fear here.

 

[kingblaze84]

Yeah, in general, most people in Central and South America aren't really White they're more Mestizo or Native American, and of course if the flood of illegals from these places continues, then this will become more obvious.

And I also think a lot of Hispanics choose White on the Census forms because they figure they may get more benefits off of it or something

 

[LUClEN]

Yeah, in general, most people in Central and South America aren't really White they're more Mestizo or Native American, and of course if the flood of illegals from these places continues, then this will become more obvious.

And I also think a lot of Hispanics choose White on the Census forms because they figure they may get more benefits off of it or something

It varies

Post WWll a lot of Europeans immigrated to Argentina, arguably making it the whitest Spanish country not named Spain

 

[kingblaze84]

Yeah, in general, most people in Central and South America aren't really White they're more Mestizo or Native American, and of course if the flood of illegals from these places continues, then this will become more obvious.

And I also think a lot of Hispanics choose White on the Census forms because they figure they may get more benefits off of it or something

It varies

Post WWll a lot of Europeans immigrated to Argentina, arguably making it the whitest Spanish country not named Spain

This is very true. Same thing in Uruguay and Paraguay, I think 65% there claim they're White. I wonder what it is in Puerto Rico.

 

[janklow]

NAHH, few presidents have been worse then Bush fuck that. There was no good points to the war in Iraq, things there have been a disaster ever since. The country is still suffering economically and reputation wise due to that huge blunder. The rise of ISIS in Iraq and the massive increase in terrorism since the war there is all the perspective I need.

and this is STILL based on "Bush was president six years ago, and though we're not entirely sure how everything works out, i REALLY don't like him."

also, it's likely the US's economic problems were not actually caused by the Iraq War.

I hear ya but White people are not really gonna be a minority in a few decades if you include Hispanics. Most Hispanics in the USA or a plurality of them consider themselves White.

...because tons of them ARE white... because Hispanic is not a race

White people still consider hispanic people, Hispanic.. which doesn't equal white in any capacity.

except for white Hispanics, who would be white people

 

[kingblaze84]

NAHH, few presidents have been worse then Bush fuck that. There was no good points to the war in Iraq, things there have been a disaster ever since. The country is still suffering economically and reputation wise due to that huge blunder. The rise of ISIS in Iraq and the massive increase in terrorism since the war there is all the perspective I need.

and this is STILL based on "Bush was president six years ago, and though we're not entirely sure how everything works out, i REALLY don't like him."

also, it's likely the US's economic problems were not actually caused by the Iraq War.

I hear ya but White people are not really gonna be a minority in a few decades if you include Hispanics. Most Hispanics in the USA or a plurality of them consider themselves White.

...because tons of them ARE white... because Hispanic is not a race

White people still consider hispanic people, Hispanic.. which doesn't equal white in any capacity.

except for white Hispanics, who would be white people

Yes many Hispanics are White, I've had Hispanic friends whose parents traced their ancestors directly to Spain and were proud of it. And Spain is obviously a White nation, but I was noting that some Hispanics aren't really White and some of them are still clicking White on Census forms. There's funny Youtube videos of Hispanics who don't look White telling interviewers that they are. Either way I agree most Hispanics who consider themselves white are indeed that.

As far as Bush, yes the Iraq War didn't directly cause the economic downturn but it still wasted a lot of money that Americans could have better spent the money on. A trillion dollars is an insane amount of money, and more then financially, the Iraq War created more problems in the region for America's reputation. Including the cost of ruining America's reputation and increasing terror, the war in Iraq may cost us trillions more in the long term. This is why I consider Bush to be among the worst presidents

 

[kingblaze84]

Middle-class squeeze: From day care to health care
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/middle-class-squeeze-day-care-health-care-155139877--finance.html

From TVs, computers and cellphones to clothing and cars, many goods have dropped in price in the past decade. Those declining prices have helped keep overall inflation historically low — even lower than the 2 percent the Federal Reserve thinks is ideal.

Yet when you consider that average health care and college costs rocketed more than 80 percent from 2000 to 2012, it's easier to understand why many families feel they are struggling.

"An overseas colleague characterized the situation well: America is a place where the luxuries are cheap and the necessities are expensive," said Joseph Cohen, a sociology professor at Queens College in New York.

The squeeze is making it harder for middle-income families to build savings. The median net worth of families in the middle 20 percent of incomes fell 17 percent from 2010 to 2013, according to the Federal Reserve's Survey of Consumer Finances.

More Americans are paying higher health care costs in the form of premiums and deductibles. (Thanks Obamacare)

A survey by Pew this year found that 57 percent of Americans felt their income was trailing the cost of living — the same proportion who felt so in October 2008 when the Great Recession was raging. Just before the recession began, the figure was 44 percent.

--For those who want kids these days, save that money....life ain't gonna get any cheaper in the future lol

 

[zombie]

can we just admit that things are not as bad as you think they are nor were they ever as good as you remember.

people cannot see past their nose, they don't have the education to see the whole macro-economic picture and by the monetarily ignorant crying about how bad things are all they do is slow down the growth process.

now america has issue it needs to fix but quite honestly, the sky is not falling even our large debt is as hugs of a problem as people think it is and will be dealt with

 

[kingblaze84]

can we just admit that things are not as bad as you think they are nor were they ever as good as you remember.

people cannot see past their nose, they don't have the education to see the whole macro-economic picture and by the monetarily ignorant crying about how bad things are all they do is slow down the growth process.

now america has issue it needs to fix but quite honestly, the sky is not falling even our large debt is as hugs of a problem as people think it is and will be dealt with

If I was to go based on my life, I would agree with you. But based on all the data out there, and people I personally know all over the nation, things are NOT that good. I will admit things in America were never that much better but according to every older person I know and talk to, things economically and cost of living wise were MUCH better then now. A family back in the day could support a 4 member household with one middle class income, now? That's a dream. The massive debt America has is cheapening the worth of the dollar, and is making the lives of the avg American more and more difficult. Reality is this, all these different polls show the same thing: Americans DO NOT think things in America are that good now. Americans are all over the nation are suffering in more and more ways as the debt grows and grows.

Imagine how high the cost of living will be in 10 years. I love kids but thank god almighty I don't have any. To all the parents out there, stay strong, ya'll will need the strength down the line, if not now.

 

[zombie]

can we just admit that things are not as bad as you think they are nor were they ever as good as you remember.

people cannot see past their nose, they don't have the education to see the whole macro-economic picture and by the monetarily ignorant crying about how bad things are all they do is slow down the growth process.

now america has issue it needs to fix but quite honestly, the sky is not falling even our large debt is as hugs of a problem as people think it is and will be dealt with

If I was to go based on my life, I would agree with you. But based on all the data out there, and people I personally know all over the nation, things are NOT that good. I will admit things in America were never that much better but according to every older person I know and talk to, things economically and cost of living wise were MUCH better then now. A family back in the day could support a 4 member household with one middle class income, now? That's a dream. The massive debt America has is cheapening the worth of the dollar, and is making the lives of the avg American more and more difficult. Reality is this, all these different polls show the same thing: Americans DO NOT think things in America are that good now. Americans are all over the nation are suffering in more and more ways as the debt grows and grows.

Imagine how high the cost of living will be in 10 years. I love kids but thank god almighty I don't have any. To all the parents out there, stay strong, ya'll will need the strength down the line, if not now.

Any data that is opinion based is emotion based and is of limited importance. judging by how people feel is an inferior policy. feelings can change in a blink of an eye and like i said earlier the american economy of 50 years ago and it's lifestyle was an aberration from the norm we are not ever going to go back to that i don't think.

america is going through a adjustment period and the nature of the american economy has changed from what is was 50 years ago. the kind of jobs we have are different from granddad's but americans still expect to live like granddad.

 

[CP203]

because americans have a sense of entitlement and a warped view of what america is supposed to be

 

[janklow]

-but I was noting that some Hispanics aren't really White and some of them are still clicking White on Census forms.

honestly, never seen it happen, but that's admittedly anecdotal. but are we talking "wrote it on a form" or "Hispanic dude that janklow would call "non-white" declares to people's faces that he is, in fact, white?"

As far as Bush, yes the Iraq War didn't directly cause the economic downturn but it still wasted a lot of money that Americans could have better spent the money on.

a fair argument, but in this case i am strictly saying it's unfair to blame the downturn on the Iraq War

 

[kingblaze84]

-but I was noting that some Hispanics aren't really White and some of them are still clicking White on Census forms.

honestly, never seen it happen, but that's admittedly anecdotal. but are we talking "wrote it on a form" or "Hispanic dude that janklow would call "non-white" declares to people's faces that he is, in fact, white?"

As far as Bush, yes the Iraq War didn't directly cause the economic downturn but it still wasted a lot of money that Americans could have better spent the money on.

a fair argument, but in this case i am strictly saying it's unfair to blame the downturn on the Iraq War

Yeah there are some Hispanics who don't look White who do declare themselves white on Census forms. I agree most Hispanics who do declare themselves White usually are White but there are Youtube videos in which Native Americans go to some Hispanic gatherings and the amount of people there who said their race was White was surprising, considering many of these people obviously weren't White. I'll post one of those videos up soon, someone on this forum posted it up before

 

[janklow]

Yeah there are some Hispanics who don't look White who do declare themselves white on Census forms. I agree most Hispanics who do declare themselves White usually are White but there are Youtube videos in which Native Americans go to some Hispanic gatherings and the amount of people there who said their race was White was surprising, considering many of these people obviously weren't White. I'll post one of those videos up soon, someone on this forum posted it up before

i am going to need a lengthy article as i generally decline to watch internet videos that don't involve firearm maintenance

 

[kingblaze84]

Yeah there are some Hispanics who don't look White who do declare themselves white on Census forms. I agree most Hispanics who do declare themselves White usually are White but there are Youtube videos in which Native Americans go to some Hispanic gatherings and the amount of people there who said their race was White was surprising, considering many of these people obviously weren't White. I'll post one of those videos up soon, someone on this forum posted it up before

i am going to need a lengthy article as i generally decline to watch internet videos that don't involve firearm maintenance

Blah forget it lol. The sources are out there but either way we agree that most of the Hispanics who claim White actually are

I wonder how that will effect the immigration debate down the line as White Hispanics increase. I'm guessing they will be tougher and tougher on immigration, as most Americans are turning like this lately. One reason why Obama hasn't done more on amnesty the way many Hispanics want

 

[kingblaze84]

because americans have a sense of entitlement and a warped view of what america is supposed to be

75% of Americans though? Seems it's deeper then that, the numbers weren't always like this and all races feel about the same way. Blacks are more dissatisfied then almost anyone, most Blacks have a sense of entitlement huh? Sounds like some Rush Limbaugh or Bill O' Reilly shit

 

[zombie]

because americans have a sense of entitlement and a warped view of what america is supposed to be

75% of Americans though? Seems it's deeper then that, the numbers weren't always like this and all races feel about the same way. Blacks are more dissatisfied then almost anyone, most Blacks have a sense of entitlement huh? Sounds like some Rush Limbaugh or Bill O' Reilly shit

yes 75% of americans have always lived in LA-LA land never excepting the reality in which they live. why do you think that in every election people vote against their economic interest ?? the average american is emotional not logical we are lead by our bellies and not our heads and it's been that way since the soliders came home from ww2 and i can bet you that the percentage of americans who feel things are getting better will increase when obama is gone.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

There was only one point in history when shit was all good, and that was due to propaganda in the 50s. If you weren't thrown on a list, you were lumped in with all the other people who were said to have the American Dream (unless you were minority) Trust in the fact that black folks were not included in those numbers as we were getting lynched and forced off the road into the gutter. Most of those polls indicate that crackers want their plantations back.

 

[soulbrother]

When have we as Americans EVER been satisfied with America?...shitt beenfuckedup for a longfuckingtime...