Imagine the world without religion...

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People have been killing and are being killed for reasons totally unrelated to religion. Pride, power, greed, land, resources etc etc. The atheistic communist parties in Russia, China, Vietnam, France etc have killed MILLIONS of people. So if we think that atheism is some how a better alternative to theism, you would be wrong. Because atheic regimes have done just as much damage in a far shorter amount of time.
 
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SL8Rok;788412 said:
People have been killing and are being killed for reasons totally unrelated to religion. Pride, power, greed, land, resources etc etc. The atheistic communist parties in Russia, China, Vietnam, France etc have killed MILLIONS of people. So if we think that atheism is some how a better alternative to theism, you would be wrong. Because atheic regimes have done just as much damage in a far shorter amount of time.

they didn't kill because of their denial of the existence of a god, but because of political motivations or the ones you named. Were many of them atheists, yes? Some also had brown hair.
 
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theillestrator;788448 said:
they didn't kill because of their denial of the existence of a god, but because of political motivations or the ones you named. Were many of them atheists, yes? Some also had brown hair.

1. Oh but they did. You see a lot of the killings in the soviet union and china and vietnam were of Christians.

2. And if you look at what has been done in the name of christianity and then look behind the scenes you see that the reasons I mentioned were at play as well, and religion was simply a tool to get the pubic behind it. Just like any other cause like "freedom" (How many Nazis where fighting for their freedom?), "democracy", "peace" (funniest thing that people think war brings peace), etc etc. Maybe the religious institution (which itself is a political group with political ambitions) but Jesus Christ, never at anytime say its ok to go to war, to steal, kill and brutally abuse other people.

3. If Saddam dedicated his gassing of the Iranians to my mom back in the 80s does that mean my mom caused it. NO. Simply because religious hypocrites dedicated their wickedness to Jesus does that mean Jesus approves it. No.
 
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then it would be a world full of people who dont think for themselves. Its natural to question the origins of your existence. That brings evolution
 
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SL8Rok;788412 said:
People have been killing and are being killed for reasons totally unrelated to religion. Pride, power, greed, land, resources etc etc. The atheistic communist parties in Russia, China, Vietnam, France etc have killed MILLIONS of people. So if we think that atheism is some how a better alternative to theism, you would be wrong. Because atheic regimes have done just as much damage in a far shorter amount of time.

if communist killed millions.. religion killed quadrillions.. communism is just like your democracy.. how many niggas you seen lynched, slaved, imprisoned, since the beginning of its existance? you telling me democracy is peaceful and never killed a fly is bullshit.. im not tryna mix politics and religion in this anyway... religion has been here since the beginning of human life.. communism been here since.. 1900s?? how the hell you come up with communist done more damage than religion??

im talking about back to the days when people were in peace b4 being hacked to death.. necks sliced the fuck off.. because they failed to pick up on christianity..

people can have their beliefs, no problem. believe in the stars, believe in a god, but killing to spread the word just doesnt bang with me.. people are so gullable that they believe anything.. and when they feel they are convinced, their way is the right way no matter WHAT..
 
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TX_Made713;789237 said:
then it would be a world full of people who dont think for themselves. Its natural to question the origins of your existence. That brings evolution

thats where you have a pack-leader.. its every where from animals in the wild to your household.. the man in charge.. thats who makes the decisions.. not something imaginary. the way they get together and form a civilization is up for debate.. the mayans did it, aztecs did it.. even the egyptians did it.. i question our existence of course.. but can guarantee you it didnt come from Jesus Christ/God/Allah.. whoever you wanna mention..

Religion made people dumb as fuck too.. imagine people studying the stars since the beginning.. we would of been traveling all around the universe by today..
 
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SL8Rok;789054 said:
1. Oh but they did. You see a lot of the killings in the soviet union and china and vietnam were of Christians.

2. And if you look at what has been done in the name of christianity and then look behind the scenes you see that the reasons I mentioned were at play as well, and religion was simply a tool to get the pubic behind it. Just like any other cause like "freedom" (How many Nazis where fighting for their freedom?), "democracy", "peace" (funniest thing that people think war brings peace), etc etc. Maybe the religious institution (which itself is a political group with political ambitions) but Jesus Christ, never at anytime say its ok to go to war, to steal, kill and brutally abuse other people.

3. If Saddam dedicated his gassing of the Iranians to my mom back in the 80s does that mean my mom caused it. NO. Simply because religious hypocrites dedicated their wickedness to Jesus does that mean Jesus approves it. No.

true, some of those other reasons you stated were done by religious groups too, but there have been many killings simply because people didn't follow a certain belief system. Sure the soviet union had some nasty killings. Horrible acts like the Great Purge were still politically motivated. I'm not saying any killing is better or more respectful than the other. They are all bad, but i've never heard of people killing a great number of people in the name of atheism. @ no. 3, i wasn't talking about anything close to that analogy. And your religion may be totally against war, but followers of your religion and others are certainly responsible for many deaths because of their religious beliefs. Either way, I hate that people have died, are dying, and will die for any unnecessary reason, religious, politically, or whatever the motivation may be.
 
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Religion:

3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness

The world without conscientiousness, I'd rather not imagine it, it appears to be already snowballing.
 
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independentsoundlab;789449 said:
if communist killed millions.. religion killed quadrillions.. communism is just like your democracy.. how many niggas you seen lynched, slaved, imprisoned, since the beginning of its existance? you telling me democracy is peaceful and never killed a fly is bullshit...
wait, which are you calling to blame: religion or democracy?
 
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