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major pain;658986 said:No, we dont both know that. People keep taking things out of context, add their own spin to it, and then regurgitate what someone else told/showed them which keeps these BS conspiracy theories going. If you saw the symbol in my avi in the next Jay-z video it would be labeled as evidence of him being "Illuminati" regardless of its true origin.
The SAME thing happens in all those other videos. You have people taking a picture of Beyonce and putting it next to a picture of "Baphomet" (a ridiculous idea) and saying its "symbolic" without EVER researching where "Baphomet" came from. People that (want to) believe these ideas need to look at them with more scrutiny or else it all gets lumped together as bullshit even when there is something that has some credibility.
Fortunately, attempting to draw symbolism out of a Tootsie Pop commercial is just dumb. There are very few original "symbols" and the way symbolism works is one symbol is derived from another or some meaning. In this instance, how does one relate the symbol of a turtle with masonry? The owl and wisdom has some credibility since owls can be connected with "wisdom" in the Greek culture. Athena (greek goddess of wisdom) was sometimes shown holding an owl. Now, associate either of those two with evil or Illuminati with something CREDIBLE.
VIBE86;659625 said:I see what you're saying, and granted probably 90% of the shit that comes up today is reaching. Especially with the Jay-Z stuff.
Why is it though, the "all seeing eye" is every where? It's in movies, commercials, music videos etc. What's the point? Today my kid was watching Spongebob and they were wearing Fez's with one eye on them, and they were giving praise to the "all seeing eye", they even said, "all seeing eye".
In Transformers 2 there was a poster or billboard that said, "we're watching you". What's the point of showing that in a movie??
I believe there is stuff there, you just gotta be open eyed to see it. It's so blatant.
loch121;657170 said:So are you man?Cuz if your willing to get fucked in your ass or suck dick that's your choice.I would rather be destitute and poor than do some gay shit.No amount of money is enough for my manhood,spiritual believes,and pride.I will get the money on my own terms.I don't want it that bad....and I'm a money hungry savage when it comes to paper.There is no benefit worth my manhood.Plus I just physically couldn't do it.
major pain;660553 said:Because its eye-catching. Here are some things for you to consider.
1. Research the origins of the "all seeing eye"
2. Find where the "Illuminati" started using that symbol.
With #2, no one can prove this group exists, much less its symbols or signs outside of attempting to associate that group with another.
VIBE86;665135 said:It's not eye catching, the majority of people don't even realize it. If they have no thought or knowledge of "illuminati", "free masonry", "devil worship" (because it's all suppsedly associated) then they won't catch that. The only reason it's becoming well known is because of youtube, the videos everyone is putting together. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't even catch it, and it's all so blatant and simple to catch.
wacko268;1090862 said:If it aint real, why do you wanna join the illuminati, so you can be set for life?.....why not just go out and murder the rich people and take their things, why try to become famous, why not become infamous like the illuminati, why be a sheep and follow the wannabe's. Start your own group, take on the illuminati, they are old and faded wraiths of a former time. Rape and pillage, murder and destruction is more acceptable now than it was.
to be a member of the illuminati you need intelligence and some background in a particular discipline namely sciences.
To be a member of the illuminati you also must have a belief in GOD or a god. You will not be accepted if not. They just do not accept ANYONE. A person with moral character and a desire to see their aims and objectives fulfilled is who they accept.
You would not fill those character traits as you have no belief in GOD or god to start with, so why even bother.
A voice of reason!
major pain;652550 said:AHAHAHAHA... you cant seriously believe what you just posted.. You REALLY believe that the Illuminati would put some message into a Tootsie Pop commercial? Where do you people get this shit from?
Jumaane;650732 said:for example The Turtle and The Owl from the Tootsie Pop ads ... The Turtle Represents a member of a masonic order, The wise owi represents a higher authority within that organization.. the one who oversee's everything with that said
.. The Owl (who's sitting in a tree) says " Lets find out" The Owil then eats the Tootsie Pop which leaves the boy sad and confused . ... the Narrator then says "THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW"
That's the way the Illuminati Works. They Take what you have and uses it to keep you down..
Another Example would be the groups which always speak of the New World Order.. (such as the G-20 or United Nation )
as you may know,.The Land we know as USA is built on what was known back then as the " New World".
The Original blueprint thought out by the Freemasons was to Build and have complete control their own nation. unfortunately they don't. With the Influence of the Illuminati gaining power within the order of masonry, The Idea of a One World Government came in to play. Therefore they do everything in their power to distract us as the NWO emerges.
Jumaane;650732 said:The Idea of a One World Government = One World LeaderShip
Mr. Whatchasay;1093465 said:Owww, hoes turn they heads like, owls
I'm the man of the hour
Triple entendre, don't even ask me how
Con Edison flow, I'm connected to a higher power
Bright life'd make your whole city light up
A trillion-watt light bulb, when I'm in the nightclub
*fixed*
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Mr. Whatchasay;1094661 said:if that was directed at me, don't get it twisted, my statement was just to show how easy it is to put bunch of stuff together and feed it to people (GUMBO), and they'll eat it.
Mr. Whatchasay;1093465 said:Owww, hoes turn they heads like, owls
I'm the man of the hour
Triple entendre, don't even ask me how
Con Edison flow, I'm connected to a higher power
Bright life'd make your whole city light up
A trillion-watt light bulb, when I'm in the nightclub
*fixed*
"If we understand the mechanisms and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it ... The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country ... In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons ... who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."
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(and nephew of famed Jewish psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud).
The Father of Spin: Edward L. Bernays & the Birth of PR, PR Watch,
2nd Quarter, 1999
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