major pain
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musicology1985;1628455 said:
Then how about you do it for the people you claim to be giving knowledge too? Or maybe you just dont have anything solid to back up the wild stuff you say?
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Then how about you do it for the people you claim to be giving knowledge too? Or maybe you just dont have anything solid to back up the wild stuff you say?
musicology1985
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@major pain
Then how about you do it for the people you claim to be giving knowledge too?
Or maybe you just dont have anything solid to back up the wild stuff you say?
The people that I gave knowledge to are fine with what I gave.
I care not about proving anything to you and you know this full well. Those who have eyes will cee and those who have ears will hear. You have neither.
Then how about you do it for the people you claim to be giving knowledge too?
Or maybe you just dont have anything solid to back up the wild stuff you say?
The people that I gave knowledge to are fine with what I gave.
I care not about proving anything to you and you know this full well. Those who have eyes will cee and those who have ears will hear. You have neither.
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major pain
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musicology1985;1628526 said:
Oh, I get it. This is the part where you get called for your BS and have to resort to insults instead of backing up what you say. Interestingly enough, you make it seem as if you wont answer because its "me" asking. Probably more like you know its bullshit.
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musicology1985
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major pain;1628545 said:
Major, you already know how this thing goes between me and you. We've been doing it for a while now and you already know that I don't play by your rules and nor do I respect you as a human being and I am weary of your ilk as a whole besides those in my real life, so of course the turnout is always the same. However, for some strange reason you always want my attention but you will never get the answer you're looking for because you already have it.
And I have never insulted you. I simply told the truth.
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major pain
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musicology1985;1628617 said:
LOL...feelings have been caught. My rules? Its a simple question. You wont answer it because you know I'll prove you wrong.
Its ok, this is typical behavior for people that like to talk big, but cant back it up when called on it.
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musicology1985
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major pain;1628737 said:
You have never proven anything that I said wrong. Freemasonry's origins in Kemet/Ta-Mary is as clear as day and no feelings have been caught. You can either accept it or reject it but again, WE ALREADY WENT OVER ALL OF THIS.
The Craft of Amen Ra is the resurrected pure Masonry AS WELL AS PRACTICAL PROFESSIONAL MASONS LIKE MARCUS GARVEY'S FATHER/BABA.
Freemasonry is the watered down Euro version with Asiatic influence. It's representative to what happened after Egypt's fall as a global power and what the inheritors have been up to from the late BC's til now.
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musicology1985
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Freemasonry is so important because it is the gateway to whatever you want to learn or do. Freemasons are positive, negative and neutral and serve as the binding glue of the global world order. You can formally join them or you can co-opt them into your already existing structure or plan.
Don't fear any of it. USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.
Don't fear any of it. USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.
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major pain
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musicology1985;1628772 said:
Many times over I have proven you wrong, because at the end of the day, the stuff you supposedly "read" about, I and others have experienced.
The origins I guess you are trying to speak on are SPECULATED to have an origin in Egypt. >> SPECULATED
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the best way to troll the internet is to say you're a freemason
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major pain
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musicology1985;1628883 said:
Yea, aight... good luck proving where it originated when the rest of the world cant.
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KTULU IS BACK;1628900 said:
I gotta try this one day lol.
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Disciplined InSight
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Don't be...because I wasn't done.musicology1985;1627933 said:
major pain;1627806 said:
A few excerpts from that same book...
On the night of the 13th of October, all the Templars in the French dominions were simultaneously arrested. Monks were appointed to preach against them in the public places of Paris,
and in the gardens of the Palais Royale; and advantage was taken of the folly, the superstition, and the credulity of the age, to propagate the most horrible and extravagant charges against the order. They were accused of worshipping an idol covered with an old skin, embalmed, having the appearance of a piece of polished oil-cloth. "In this idol," we are assured, "there were two carbuncles for eyes, bright as the brightness of heaven, and it is certain that all the hope of the Templars was placed in it; it was their sovereign god, and they trusted in it with all their heart." They are accused of burning the bodies of the deceased brethren, and making the ashes into a powder, which they administered to the younger brethren in their food and drink, to make them hold fast their faith and idolatry; of cooking and roasting infants, and anointing their idols with the fat; of celebrating hidden rites and mysteries, to which young and tender virgins were introduced, and of a variety of abominations too absurd and horrible to be named.
And the crimes they were accused of...remember Major, your fraternity is a historic and direct linkage to the Templars.
1. That at their first reception into the order, or at some time afterwards, or as soon as an opportunity occurred, they were induced or admonished by those who had received them within the bosom of the fraternity, to deny Christ or Jesus, or the crucifixion,
"2. That the brothers jointly did this.
"3. That the greater part of them did it.
"4. That they did it sometimes after their reception.
5. That the receivers told and instructed those that were received, that Christ was not the true God, or sometimes Jesus, or sometimes the person crucified.
"6. That they told those they received that he was a false prophet.
"7. That they said he had not suffered for the redemption of mankind, nor been crucified but for his own sins.
"8. That neither the receiver nor the person received had any hope of obtaining salvation through him, and this they said to those they received, or something equivalent, or like it.
"9. That they made those they received into the order spit upon the cross, or upon the sign or figure of the cross, or the image of Christ, though they that were received did sometimes spit aside.
"10. That they caused the cross itself to be trampled under foot.
"11. That the brethren themselves did sometimes trample on the same cross.
A.D. 1309."15. That they did these things in contempt of Christ and the orthodox faith.
"16. That they did not believe the sacrament of the altar.
"17. That some of them did not.
"18. That the greater part did not.
"19. That they believed not the other sacraments of the church.
"20. That the priests of the order did not utter the words by which the body of Christ is consecrated in the canon of the mass.
"21. That some of them did not.
"22. That the greater part did not.
"23. That those who received them enjoined the same.
"24. That they believed, and so it was told them, that the Grand Master of the order could absolve them from their sins.
"25. That the visitor could do so.
"26. That the preceptors, of whom many were laymen, could do it.
"27. That they in fact did do so.
"28. That some of them did.
"29. That the Grand Master confessed these things of himself, even before he was taken, in the presence of great persons.
"30. That in receiving brothers into the order, or when about to receive them, or some time after having received them, the receivers and the persons received kissed one another on the mouth, the navel. . . . . . . !!
. . . . . . . . .
"36. That the receptions of the brethren were made clandestinely.
"37. That none were present but the brothers of the said order.
p. 218
The succeeding articles proceed to charge the Templars with crimes and abominations too horrible and disgusting to be named.
"46. That the brothers themselves had idols in every province, viz. heads; some of which had three faces, and some one, and some a man's skull.
"47. That they adored that idol, or those idols, especially in their great chapters and assemblies.
"48. That they worshipped it.
"49. As their God.
"50. As their Saviour.
"51. That some of them did so.
"52. That the greater part did.
"53. That they said that that head could save them.
"54. That it could produce riches.
"56. That it had given to the order all its wealth.
"56. That it caused the earth to bring forth seed.
"57. That it made the trees to flourish.
"58. That they bound or touched the head of the said idols with cords, wherewith they bound themselves about their shirts, or next their skins.
"59. That at their reception the aforesaid little cords, or others of the same length, were delivered to each of the brothers.
"60. That they did this in worship of their idol.
"61. That it was enjoined them to gird themselves with the said little cords, as before mentioned, and continually to wear them.
"62. That the brethren of the order were generally received in that manner.
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niggas believing what the catholic church says about other cults?
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major pain
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Disciplined InSight;1628966 said:
Yea bro, except you are ignoring the part(s) where it was a) all admitted to under extreme torture b) proven to be charges that were trumped up by the pope clement v and c) the Templars were exonerated by the same pope that brought up the charges. http://yourehistory.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/knights-templar-exonerated-by-pope/
Now, a couple of things to note here. Freemasons today and the Templars of old cannot be connected without a large amount of speculation turned into belief. Other than a group within Freemasonry called Knight's Templar, there is very little to link the two. The other thing, NONE of that mentions Baphomet like you originally said it did.
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On the 18th of August, four other Templars were condemned as relapsed heretics by the council of Sens, and were likewise burned by the Porte St. Antoine; and it is stated that a hundred and thirteen Templars were from first to last burnt at the stake in Paris. Many others were burned in Lorraine; in Normandy; at Carcassone, and nine, or, according to some writers, twenty-nine, were burnt by the archbishop of Rheims at Senlis! King Philip's officers, indeed, not content with their inhuman cruelty towards the living, invaded the sanctity of the tomb; they dragged a dead Templar, who had been Treasurer of the Temple at Paris, from his grave, and burnt the mouldering corpse as a heretic. * In the midst of all these sanguinary atrocities, the examinations continued before the ecclesiastical tribunals. Many aged and illustrious warriors, who merited a better fate, appeared before their judges pale and trembling. At first they revoked their confessions, declared their innocence, and were remanded to prison; and then, panic-stricken, they demanded to be led back before the papal commissioners, when they abandoned their retractations, persisted in their previous avowals of guilt, humbly expressed their sorrow and repentance, and were then pardoned,absolved, and reconciled to the church! The torture still continued to be applied, and out of thirty-three Templars confined in the chateau d’Alaix, four died in prison, and the remaining twenty confessed, amongst other things, the following absurdities:--that in the provincial chapter of the order held at Montpelier, the Templars set up a head and worshipped it; that the devil often appeared there in the shape of a cat, and conversed with the assembled brethren, and promised them a good harvest, with the possession of riches, and all kinds of temporal property. Some asserted that the head worshipped by the fraternity possessed a long beard; others that it was a woman's head; and one of the prisoners declared that as often as this wonderful head was adored, a great number of devils made their appearance in the shape of beautiful women . . . . . .!! *
Even though Eliphas Levi artist's rendition of The Baphomet itself was his own amalgamation of what the Templars described..In Levi's own words:
“The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of hermetism, the one pointing up to the white moon of Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect harmony of mercy with justice. His one arm is female, the other male like the ones of the androgyn of Khunrath, the attributes of which we had to unite with those of our goat because he is one and the same symbol. The flame of intelligence shining between his horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it. The ugly beast’s head expresses the horror of the sinner, whose materially acting, solely reponsible part has to bear the punishment exclusively; because the soul is insensitive according to its nature and can only suffer when it materializes. The rod standing instead of genitals symbolizes eternal life, the body covered with scales the water, the semi- circle above it the atmosphere, the feathers following above the volatile. Humanity is represented by the two breasts and the androgyn arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences.”
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The Templars had various descriptions of the idol they worshiped...if you were to put all together of what they described it's basically an androgynous idol...
Even though Eliphas Levi artist's rendition of The Baphomet itself was his own amalgamation of what the Templars described..In Levi's own words:
“The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of hermetism, the one pointing up to the white moon of Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect harmony of mercy with justice. His one arm is female, the other male like the ones of the androgyn of Khunrath, the attributes of which we had to unite with those of our goat because he is one and the same symbol. The flame of intelligence shining between his horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it. The ugly beast’s head expresses the horror of the sinner, whose materially acting, solely reponsible part has to bear the punishment exclusively; because the soul is insensitive according to its nature and can only suffer when it materializes. The rod standing instead of genitals symbolizes eternal life, the body covered with scales the water, the semi- circle above it the atmosphere, the feathers following above the volatile. Humanity is represented by the two breasts and the androgyn arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences.”
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The Templars had various descriptions of the idol they worshiped...if you were to put all together of what they described it's basically an androgynous idol...
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niggas believing the pope?
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thats the nigga who said "oh btw, that limbo thing doesn't actually exist, we dont know where the baby's souls went, my bad, i'm still infallible tho"
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thats the nigga who said "oh btw, that limbo thing doesn't actually exist, we dont know where the baby's souls went, my bad, i'm still infallible tho"
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