If You Were Born After 1990 Then Your Opinion On Hip Hop Doesn't Really Matter....

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Ice Cube (June 15, 1969) – 39

Jay-Z (December 4, 1969) – 39

Raekwon (January 12, 1970) – 39

Q-Tip (April 10, 1970) – 39

Redman (April 17, 1970) – 39

Ghostface Killah (May 9, 1970) – 39

Fat Joe (August 19, 1970) – 38

Scarface (November 9, 1970) – 38

DMX (December 18, 1970) – 38

Method Man (April 1, 1971) – 38

Snoop Dogg (October 20, 1971) – 37

Common (March 13, 1972) – 37

Busta Rhymes (May 20, 1972) – 37

Black Thought (October 3, 1972) – 36

Eminem (October 17, 1972) – 36

Bun B (March 19, 1973) – 36

Nas (September 14, 1973) – 35

Mos Def (December 11, 1973) – 35

Beanie Sigel (March 6, 1974) – 35

Andre 3000 (May 27, 1974) – 35

Styles P (November 28, 1974) – 34

Big Boi (February 1, 1975) – 34

Jadakiss (May 27, 1975) – 34

50 Cent (July 6, 1975) – 33

Talib Kweli (October 3, 1975) – 33

Rick Ross (January 28, 1976) – 33

Cam’ron (February 4, 1976) – 33

Kanye West (June 8, 1977) – 31

Ludacris (September 11, 1977) – 31

Young Jeezy (October 12, 1977)- 31

Birdman (born February 15, 1969),[

Lil Wayne . (born September 27, 1982),

Drake (born October 24, 1986),

Nicki Minaj (born December 8, 1984),

Gucci Mane (born February 2, 1980),

Waka Flocka (born May 31, 1986

Most of these rappers aint kids.... this list was given in 2009
 
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I'm an 80s baby too but don't listen to the t/s or anybody who agrees with him. Everybody's opinion matters. If you have ears, if you ever paid for an album or paid to go see a show, if you ever requested a song on the radio or TV then your opinion matters, young or old. No anonymous dude on a message board has the right to tell you otherwise.

The real problem though is that there's no balance on the airwaves anymore. Young people don't have the chance to sample different types of hip hop today like we did and are being groomed to accept that what they hear on the radio and TV is all that hip hop is. That's not their fault though. People need to direct blame where it actually belongs: to the corporate side of hip hop.
 
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MrMinted;2013903 said:
I was born in 1982 but its the only form of music I have ever followed from being a kid, so I remember all the "golden age" and the "classic" beefs as they were unfolding....

I read some oppinions on here and I think to myself that this guy doesnt know what he is on about, and then I realise that they were probably just out the sack when the original thing happened so why would they know...

Am I the only one that feels like this?

If you were born after 1990 then please don't comment
lol this nigga. you were just 5-10 during the golden years and you talkin like you were at an age old enough to really understand everything going on. smh. To be real, I could be like you and say if your were born after 1980 then your opinon on hip-hop don't really matter. But i aint gonna hate like that.
 
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Well if people listen to shitty music the major labels will continue to put out shitty music . The Majors only follow trends they don't set any. So by you listening to bad music your destroying hip hop
 
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son of 1973;2015223 said:
every generation thinks that lol. and older niggas do look down on younger sometimes like "wtf"....its a cycle. but we used to look up to older niggas, gen x admired o.g. shit for some reason. always wondered what it was like to be in the 60s or 70s or whatever, didnt think that shit was wack off top (except the clothes lol)....they put us on to game, music, partying. look at rap..gen x producers sampled music because we grew up on it and liked it, niggas wasnt like "marvin gaye/james brown/george clinton aint shit fuck that old shit". you can admire the past and still rep your generation. and old niggas gotta set examples and be cool wit lil niggas shit sometimes, that helps
This is a real ass post by a fellow old head. And the bolded is exactly while I'm on this board. not to diss young fans but to try to offer an older perspective since I was there since day 1 and even remember music BEFORE rap. I aint into most of the new stuff but I aint gonna pitch a tent in a gucci thread just to pop shit about how i don't like his music the same way some of these dudes be pitching a tent in a KRS thread just to hate. I'm here to try to elevate and give back knowledge to those that seek it.
 
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Old Fart;2017531 said:
This is a real ass post by a fellow old head. And the bolded is exactly while I'm on this board. not to diss young fans but to try to offer an older perspective since I was there since day 1 and even remember music BEFORE rap. I aint into most of the new stuff but I aint gonna pitch a tent in a gucci thread just to pop shit about how i don't like his music the same way some of these dudes be pitching a tent in a KRS thread just to hate. I'm here to try to elevate and give back knowledge to those that seek it.

im not a old head but i know my hip hop history im 21 so to me age is irrelevant just because u was born in 1980 or whatever it don't mean = more knowledge on hip hop then a young head.
 
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so your saying someone born on January 1 1991 cant have a smarter or better opinion than somebody born on December 31 1990?
 
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juelz21;2017572 said:
im not a old head but i know my hip hop history im 21 so to me age is irrelevant just because u was born in 1980 or whatever it don't mean = more knowledge on hip hop then a young head.

There is a HUGE difference between knowing about something and UNDERSTANDING it.....Your 21, you haven't lived through hiphop even in the slightest.
 
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juelz21;2017572 said:
im not a old head but i know my hip hop history im 21 so to me age is irrelevant just because u was born in 1980 or whatever it don't mean = more knowledge on hip hop then a young head.
actually it usually does mean a person should have more knowledge since they were there, than the person that just read about it. I can study the 50's and 60's and be very knowledgable on that time but I wouldn't dare believe that I know more than my parents do about it if they were living in those eras and were deeply into it. That doesn't mean a youngster isn't well versed by his studies but it's arrogant to think we know more than our parents just because we read some stuff when they were actually there.

I respect young opinions on things that I saw first hand and can verify. I don't respect those opinions about shit I saw that they only heard or read about. If I seen it happen with my own eyes then no one can really tell me shit about it. But I'm not going to say just because a person is young that they don't know shit. The problem is there are many who THINK they know shit but they really don't. I'll try to correct those kids instead of dissing them. But often times that kid'll fire back with some 'you old ass nigga think you know everything', when in fact I'm only speaking on a particular subject because I actually do....or i wouldn't say shit. age comes into play in many cases but not all.
 
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To help make my point, I'll say this...LL Cool J was as big a star as Jay-Z is now. But a youngster who wasn't there would disagree because they are only going to go by record sell and his coroporate endeavors because that's tangible to them. They wouldn't understand the climate of hip-hop back then and how rich and famous are two different things entirely. The climate of hip-hop has changed dramatically and it's become a billion dollar industry that goes way beyond record sells. kids don't understand that at that time LL was inovative for that era and had word wide fame. now it's laughable in comparison to today's standards but it's impossible for anyone who wasn't there to mentally understand the impact he had in comparison to the impact Jay has now because the numbers don't match up. there is no way we could even possibly explain it in a way that would make sense to younger fans who didn't witness it. It's like saying Barry Sanders was better than Jim Brown because he ran more yards than Jim. For the era Jim was in he was Barry Sanders. In LL's era, he was Jay-Z.
 
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Old Fart;2017638 said:
actually it usually does mean a person should have more knowledge since they were there, than the person that just read about it. I can study the 50's and 60's and be very knowledgable on that time but I wouldn't dare believe that I know more than my parents do about it if they were living in those eras and were deeply into it. That doesn't mean a youngster isn't well versed by his studies but it's arrogant to think we know more than our parents just because we read some stuff when they were actually there.

I respect young opinions on things that I saw first hand and can verify. I don't respect those opinions about shit I saw that they only heard or read about. If I seen it happen with my own eyes then no one can really tell me shit about it. But I'm not going to say just because a person is young that they don't know shit. The problem is there are many who THINK they know shit but they really don't. I'll try to correct those kids instead of dissing them. But often times that kid'll fire back with some 'you old ass nigga think you know everything', when in fact I'm only speaking on a particular subject because I actually do....or i wouldn't say shit. age comes into play in many cases but not all.

well this doesn't apply to me and no disrespect to you but this does'nt make any sense at all like i said just because u live through the time doesn't mean u know more about hip hop then a young a head the problem with old heads is that they think because they were around during that time that they think they have more knowledge about hip hop that's some

elitism shit and real talk we need to get rid of that shit and to me it' does'nt matter how old u are if u have knowledge about hip hop and know your shit u are hip hop.
 
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Old Fart;2017732 said:
To help make my point, I'll say this...LL Cool J was as big a star as Jay-Z is now. But a youngster who wasn't there would disagree because they are only going to go by record sell and his coroporate endeavors because that's tangible to them. They wouldn't understand the climate of hip-hop back then and how rich and famous are two different things entirely. The climate of hip-hop has changed dramatically and it's become a billion dollar industry that goes way beyond record sells. kids don't understand that at that time LL was inovative for that era and had word wide fame. now it's laughable in comparison to today's standards but it's impossible for anyone who wasn't there to mentally understand the impact he had in comparison to the impact Jay has now because the numbers don't match up. there is no way we could even possibly explain it in a way that would make sense to younger fans who didn't witness it. It's like saying Barry Sanders was better than Jim Brown because he ran more yards than Jim. For the era Jim was in he was Barry Sanders. In LL's era, he was Jay-Z.

exactly i agree just like when people say big pun or eminem took multi syllable raps to new heights and im like know they did'nt kool g rap and rakim was doing that multi syllable rhyme pattern style before them and imo did it better
 
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Old Fart;2017732 said:
To help make my point, I'll say this...LL Cool J was as big a star as Jay-Z is now. But a youngster who wasn't there would disagree because they are only going to go by record sell and his coroporate endeavors because that's tangible to them. They wouldn't understand the climate of hip-hop back then and how rich and famous are two different things entirely. The climate of hip-hop has changed dramatically and it's become a billion dollar industry that goes way beyond record sells. kids don't understand that at that time LL was inovative for that era and had word wide fame. now it's laughable in comparison to today's standards but it's impossible for anyone who wasn't there to mentally understand the impact he had in comparison to the impact Jay has now because the numbers don't match up. there is no way we could even possibly explain it in a way that would make sense to younger fans who didn't witness it. It's like saying Barry Sanders was better than Jim Brown because he ran more yards than Jim. For the era Jim was in he was Barry Sanders. In LL's era, he was Jay-Z.

Maybe career wise you have a point, though I'd argue Jay-Z helped make hip hop into the giant industry it is today, but Jay is the more accomplished artist, no matter when you grew up.
 
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FieldTripsToTheHood;2017630 said:
There is a HUGE difference between knowing about something and UNDERSTANDING it.....Your 21, you haven't lived through hiphop even in the slightest.

yes i have i probably know more about hip hop then u do.
 
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kacee139;2016425 said:
Ice Cube (June 15, 1969) – 39

Jay-Z (December 4, 1969) – 39

Raekwon (January 12, 1970) – 39

Q-Tip (April 10, 1970) – 39

Redman (April 17, 1970) – 39

Ghostface Killah (May 9, 1970) – 39

Fat Joe (August 19, 1970) – 38

Scarface (November 9, 1970) – 38

DMX (December 18, 1970) – 38

Method Man (April 1, 1971) – 38

Snoop Dogg (October 20, 1971) – 37

Common (March 13, 1972) – 37

Busta Rhymes (May 20, 1972) – 37

Black Thought (October 3, 1972) – 36

Eminem (October 17, 1972) – 36

Bun B (March 19, 1973) – 36

Nas (September 14, 1973) – 35

Mos Def (December 11, 1973) – 35

Beanie Sigel (March 6, 1974) – 35

Andre 3000 (May 27, 1974) – 35

Styles P (November 28, 1974) – 34

Big Boi (February 1, 1975) – 34

Jadakiss (May 27, 1975) – 34

50 Cent (July 6, 1975) – 33

Talib Kweli (October 3, 1975) – 33

Rick Ross (January 28, 1976) – 33

Cam’ron (February 4, 1976) – 33

Kanye West (June 8, 1977) – 31

Ludacris (September 11, 1977) – 31

Young Jeezy (October 12, 1977)- 31

Birdman (born February 15, 1969),[

Lil Wayne . (born September 27, 1982),

Drake (born October 24, 1986),

Nicki Minaj (born December 8, 1984),

Gucci Mane (born February 2, 1980),

Waka Flocka (born May 31, 1986

Most of these rappers aint kids.... this list was given in 2009

SMH most of these dudes makin the wack music is 25 and up, so you cant be mad at the young fans
 
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