If You Were Born After 1990 Then Your Opinion On Hip Hop Doesn't Really Matter....

[talik23]

but he had intentions of making money hes a legend yeah i don't really listen to him that much cuz i never been into him like that.

there are plenty of young people who like music and love to write.

lol you really think soulja boy gives a fuck if people think his rhymes are dumb he could give a fuck less he had people dancing and was making money

same goes for people like hammer and tone loc, you guys ca sit there and talk all this shit but people were dancing to there shit yes black,white,chinese,etc.

no i know he dont a fuck but my whole thing about him is young niggas that think he is hip hop and tell u the truth hammer wasnt hip hop either. but in the 80's and early 90's and even late 90's niggas wasnt on no dancing knick knack bullshit. it was straight rap. not learn this new dance and my booty got swag smh..... only lil niggas relate to that

 

[talik23]

Because they werent taught to appreciate it... Yall appreciated it because yall lived through it how can somebody have that same appreciate if they didnt and they werent around anybody who shared those stories? I appreciate good music and Lyricism because growing up all my brothers played were Biggie, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, Nas, Jay-Z.... And i appreciate soul music because of my Parents and what they played when they were growing up.... And what yall really dont get (Old heads)... Ur gonna appreciate the music when u get into ur teenage years... Do i think Wayne is the best raper alive? Not in a million years but in hindsight how can i knock somebody if thats the only level of Lyricism they know?

And like i stated before you have to start YOUNG... The younger kids are the more they want t learn.... Dont wait until he or she is a grown ass teen with a Job and 2 kids and try to tell them what they should like musically.... It's not gonna work like that....

young niggas dont want to appreaciate it let alone listen to it. they gonna think what they wanna think about hip hop

 

[Calii Comfort]

no i know he dont a fuck but my whole thing about him is young niggas that think he is hip hop and tell u the truth hammer wasnt hip hop either. but in the 80's and early 90's and even late 90's niggas wasnt on no dancing knick knack bullshit. it was straight rap. not learn this new dance and my booty got swag smh..... only lil niggas relate to that

lol wrong there is 90's underground that talks about that shiiit!!!!

majority of mc's have kicked some shit about bitches,hoes, and cars hell some of them thats all there fucking albums revolved around.

its just mainstream is now really commercial i don't know why guys keep throwing around this whole hip hop is dead you still got dudes who can rap

check it, most of it has to do with the production i will admit people arn't musically inclined like back then

because back then you were able to tell where the music was coming from every coast had its sound today you really don't got that

 

[Old Fart]

but he had intentions of making money hes a legend yeah i don't really listen to him that much cuz i never been into him like that.

there are plenty of young people who like music and love to write.

lol you really think soulja boy gives a fuck if people think his rhymes are dumb he could give a fuck less he had people dancing and was making money

same goes for people like hammer and tone loc, you guys ca sit there and talk all this shit but people were dancing to there shit yes black,white,chinese,etc.

I been to a lot of concerts in my life but imma tell you straight up, aint no concert as live as a KRS concert. He is a REAL M.C.. period. I wasn't even that big on KRS when he first dropped but when you go to his show, you will leave knowing exactly what a REAL M.C. is with no question. Don't cheat yourself. Whether you are familiar with his music or not, if he ever comes to your town and puts on a show, go check it out. there is no way you will be able to leave that show without knowing EXACTLY what a REAL M.C. is. I know i'm just another nigga on the internet to you but trust me on that shit. I wasn't a big KRS dude at first either but his show will set a standard for you. You'll see he aint as arrogant as he comes off in the press either. Dude is down to earth and real as hell. He'll even invite you on stage to spit during his show and kick it with you afterwards. Just a real ass nigga that knows how to rock a crowd. period.

 

[Calii Comfort]

I been to a lot of concerts in my life but imma tell you straight up, aint no concert as live as a KRS concert. He is a REAL M.C.. period. I wasn't even that big on KRS when he first dropped but when you go to his show, you will leave knowing exactly what a REAL M.C. is with no question. Don't cheat yourself. Whether you are familiar with his music or not, if he ever comes to your town and puts on a show, go check it out. there is no way you will be able to leave that show without knowing EXACTLY what a REAL M.C. is. I know i'm just another nigga on the internet to you but trust me on that shit. I wasn't a big KRS dude at first either but his show ill set a standard for you. You'll see he aint as arrogant as he comes off in the press either. Dude is down to earth and real as hell. He'll even invite you on stage to spit during his show and kick it with you afterwards. Just a real ass nigga that knows how to rock a crowd. period.

nah man i agree i'm not saying he ain't a real mc but the point is not matter what anybody writing shit in a form of a rhyme scheme is mc no matter how fucking whack it is

 

[talik23]

lol wrong there is 90's underground that talks about that shiiit!!!!

majority of mc's have kicked some shit about bitches,hoes, and cars hell some of them thats all there fucking albums revolved around.

its just mainstream is now really commercial i don't know why guys keep throwing around this whole hip hop is dead you still got dudes who can rap

check it, most of it has to do with the production i will admit people arn't musically inclined like back then

because back then you were able to tell where the music was coming from every coast had its sound today you really don't got that

they rap about bitches ,hoes, and cars in the 90's but wasnt like soulja boy dance knick knack rhymes. thats what im talkin about. niggas could relate to the nas, jayz, biggie, big pun and pac. u think them niggas would do a song with this clown nooooooo.

 

[talik23]

Yea and what they dont know is what the old niggas failed to teach.....

ok youngin lol

 

[Old Fart]

Because they werent taught to appreciate it... Yall appreciated it because yall lived through it how can somebody have that same appreciate if they didnt and they werent around anybody who shared those stories? I appreciate good music and Lyricism because growing up all my brothers played were Biggie, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, Nas, Jay-Z.... And i appreciate soul music because of my Parents and what they played when they were growing up.... And what yall really dont get (Old heads)... Ur gonna appreciate the music when u get into ur teenage years... Do i think Wayne is the best raper alive? Not in a million years but in hindsight how can i knock somebody if thats the only level of Lyricism they know?

And like i stated before you have to start YOUNG... The younger kids are the more they want t learn.... Dont wait until he or she is a grown ass teen with a Job and 2 kids and try to tell them what they should like musically.... It's not gonna work like that....

that shit is real what you dropped. My kids are 7 and 10 adn I'm schooling them on real hip-hop. They still like their favorites but they be on youtube looking up old Prince and Kane music. I got my kids in check but the 'kids' that aint in my house are some hard headed muthafuckas who don't give a fuck what I try to tell them. fuck'em. they lost

 

[Old Fart]

nah man i agree i'm not saying he ain't a real mc but the point is not matter what anybody writing shit in a form of a rhyme scheme is mc no matter how fucking whack it is

This is what us old heads are trying to take yall to school on. no every rapper that grabs a mic is NOT an M.C.. you have to understand what a real M.C. is. when we try to tell yall what one is, yall tell us yall disagree. what can I tell a youngster like you who hard headed like that?

 

[Calii Comfort]

its all about the time i know very well about these old school rappers like kane,rakim,fat boys,biz markie,mc shan, and others but that wasn't my time i was born in 91 in my house hold i heard shit like bone thugs,2pac,master p.

i can say dudes like 50 made good music because that was my time line.

i basically accept anything that i think has a nice tune i don't really care about opinions because thats what hip hop is about its all opinions we all have our take on good music not everybody is going to be on the same shit thats why debates like this never get anywhere because no matter what i'm going to have my opinion.

also i listen to other genres like oldies,some rock, and rnb

 

[Calii Comfort]

This is what us old heads are trying to take yall to school on. no every rapper that grabs a mic is NOT an M.C.. you have to understand what a real M.C. is. when we try to tell yall what one is, yall tell us yall disagree. what can I tell a youngster like you who hard headed like that?

idk man the way i see it is

average rappers

and

lyrical rappers

but both mc's to me

 

[Old Fart]

that shit is real what you dropped. My kids are 7 and 10 adn I'm schooling them on real hip-hop. They still like their favorites but they be on youtube looking up old Prince and Kane music. I got my kids in check but the 'kids' that aint in my house are some hard headed muthafuckas who don't give a fuck what I try to tell them. fuck'em. they lost

just to clear this up, not saying Prince is hip-hop, but just saying i school them on all music i grew up on so they know musical history

 

[Old Fart]

idk man the way i see it is

average rappers

and

lyrical rappers

but both mc's to me

see that's my point dog. I was there and I know what the difference is. When I try to school a young brotha without trying to belittle him, yall turn around and basically have that attitude like ' fuck what that old ass nigga that been there sayin...I'ma use my own definition because that's what I feel'. So it is what it is. Us old heads try to school but yall hard headed young heads aint trying to hear it. *Kanye shrug*

 

[Calii Comfort]

see that's my point dog. I was there and I know what the difference is. When I try to school a young brotha without trying to belittle him, yall turn around and basically have that attitude like ' fuck what that old ass nigga that been there sayin...I'ma use my own definition because that's what I feel'. So it is what it is. Us old heads try to school but yall hard headed young heads aint trying to hear it. *Kanye shrug*

man real shit i'm not an ignorant person i never disrespected my peers i know what you mean because i seen people shit all over krs 1, like i said i don't think hes garbage i'm just not up on him he doesn't catch my interest but i know he has an impact on hiphop

 

[talik23]

see that's my point dog. I was there and I know what the difference is. When I try to school a young brotha without trying to belittle him, yall turn around and basically have that attitude like ' fuck what that old ass nigga that been there sayin...I'ma use my own definition because that's what I feel'. So it is what it is. Us old heads try to school but yall hard headed young heads aint trying to hear it. *Kanye shrug*

my nigga they wont understand. they think every rapper is a mc... they lost smh

 

[Old Fart]

yall can feel free to make up your own terminology of what yall feel these days and that will be cool. But don't take some shit we made up and tell us it mean something different these days. Make up your own name for what many of today's rappers do and we won't even get into these type of discussions. But don't sit up here and tell us what a real M.C. is when we made up our own meaning of it. then it won't even be a problem.

 

[talik23]

man real shit i'm not an ignorant person i never disrespected my peers i know what you mean because i seen people shit all over krs 1, like i said i don't think hes garbage i'm just not up on him he doesn't catch my interest but i know he has an impact on hiphop

i feel your honesty on that but u need to get up on him to know the definetion of a true mc. not all rappers are mc.

 

[Calii Comfort]

And I'm not here to diss you dog. But what more can a genuine OG tell you if you aint trying to hear it? That's the problem these days. do you understand I was there the day BEFORE hip-hop started and saw the entire thing built from the very beginning? I aint just making up shit or quoting shit I read. I was THERE. How the fuck yall gonna tell me what is and what isn't a reall M.C.??? feel me bruh?

yeah i feel you and i would understand how it feels to see all these new mainstream dudes. coming from that era

 

[talik23]

Dont clump everybody in the same category it makes u look lost old nigga

i never said you was apart of the catergory youngin unless u feelin gulity about it and u lost too

 

[ustreet_monsta]

Biggest bullshit ever, sorry but hiphop is suppose to be for everyone, the music is getting older so wtf do you expect the fans to give up hiphop when they hit a certain age. Plus to be honest, the older niggas are the only ones selling and putting out quality music for the most part. You niggas aren't gonna be 21 forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no i dont expect the older fans to stop listening, but i do expect them to stop demanding that music being made for and by kids cater towards their outdated view of hip hop. things change. we would have never had 90's era hip hop without the older generation moving on. Rakim, Kane, and Kool G Rap made way for the younger dudes to have their voices heard. they didnt stand in the way talking about how things were in the 80's.