If you don't have Nas at #1 on your all time list, get the fuck off this forum

[a.mann]

NaS is the most “complete” MC in hip hop.

The only thing niggas can vainly argue about is his flow.

Which is perfect.

They try to compare NaS consist flow with Jay-Z’s ever changing one.

Totally forgetting Jay NEVER had his own flow or identity as an MC

which is why he can "switch it up" so much, he NEVER had anything to call his own

 

[Mumo X]

What's wrong with making music for the Euros?? Please tell me that aint the reason you have esco over jay. It aint about just making music for the motherland, you need to spread your words globally. The Euros also love Nas as well. Trust me I've been there. We need to stop this foolery talk about hip hop just being for the blacks. Hip Hop should be and is embraced by all races. I know Indians that listen to rap music like KRS-ONE, Biggie and etc.

what foolery talk u talkin bout? Smh! U dont see any wrong with makin music for the Euros? I guess your of caucasian descent. But my point is, Hiphop is a culture built by Blacks for Blacks. Hiphop wuz born so that the Black youth can voice they discontent at racism, social degradation and economic exploitation by the white people. Its a culture that has always been used to fight the system which is being controlled by Europeans. Thats why its wrong and stupid of Jay to infuse Black Conscious soulful deep music wit some Euro techno irritatin sounds.

 

[jim1000]

Why would you assume that I'm of white descent?? For your info I'm black and to be exact Nigerian. And stop lumping all white people in the same boat man. Plus I was even talking to you in the first place. Its was directed at H-Rap.

Smh! U dont see any wrong with makin music for the Euros?

No I absolutely don't see anything wrong wit making music for the Euros. I don't know you my my dude but you are coming off real selfish and sound like a bigot with this for us by us claim. Hip Hop aint for black people only my nigga. We need to embrace all cultures as well. You're acting like people in Europe haven't gone through struggles like us blacks.

Its a culture that has always been used to fight the system which is being controlled by Europeans. Thats why its wrong and stupid of Jay to infuse Black Conscious soulful deep music wit some Euro techno irritatin sounds.

Huh??? I thought the Music was controlled by the Jews!! So now we're blaming the Europeans?? Listen man I actually prefer Nas over Jay but I aint never heard you blast Nas for doing music with a white man like Kevin Rudolph. You acting like Nas doesn't embrace other cultures outside of Africa. I swear we are blinded by the people we like and can see no wrong with our favorite artist. Be fair my dude.

 

[Mumo X]

Why would you assume that I'm of white descent?? For your info I'm black and to be exact Nigerian. And stop lumping all white people in the same boat man. Plus I was even talking to you in the first place. Its was directed at H-Rap.

No I absolutely don't see anything wrong wit making music for the Euros. I don't know you my my dude but you are coming off real selfish and sound like a bigot with this for us by us claim. Hip Hop aint for black people only my nigga. We need to embrace all cultures as well. You're acting like people in Europe haven't gone through struggles like us blacks.

Huh??? I thought the Music was controlled by the Jews!! So now we're blaming the Europeans?? Listen man I actually prefer Nas over Jay but I aint never heard you blast Nas for doing music with a white man like Kevin Rudolph. You acting like Nas doesn't embrace other cultures outside of Africa. I swear we are blinded by the people we like and can see no wrong with our favorite artist. Be fair my dude.

smh @ Nas embracin other cultures. Can u pliz explain this? For all i know is that Nas has always identified with the struggle. His government name is African- Nigerian to be exact. Nas has been pro Africa since he spit his 1st lyrics. Alot of 5% and ancient egypt teachings is embedded in Nas musik unlike lets say Jay Z or Biggie. Fyi i aint a bigot. My worry is that u dont see anythn wrong wit makin music for the euros and the fact that u claim equate the Black mans struggle to the european struggle(if any) is disturbing and a fallacy. Its a well known fact that European music lacks soul and it aint deep in meaning. How dare u tel a brother to embrace a european culture at the expense of african culture. Only a stupid lame self hatin black man infatuated by the european who colonised me, enslaved my grandfathers, and stole our land would embrace the white mans culture. The biggest problem wit Africa and its peoples is ignorance. Thats why we lag behind in every aspect of development. Instead of self help and adoptin the Marcus Garvey teachns and principles we stil rely on the white man to bail us out....

 

[jim1000]

My worry is that u dont see anythn wrong wit makin music for the euros and the fact that u claim equate the Black mans struggle to the european struggle(if any) is disturbing and a fallacy.

Yo all Euros aren't bad people so stop this pro-black chit talk with me. Don't try to tell me that I'm trying to equalize the african struggle with the Euros. Let me ask you a simple question. Were you born or raised in Europe?? Seriously my dude stop being close-minded. You acting like we are the only culture that has been oppressed by the white man. Other cultures have their own struggles and trials as well. Seriously I'm worried that you don't get where I'm coming from at all. You are so far away from my views its really scary. You need to travel outside of our continent first before you start acting all righteous and chit. And yet you seem to ignore the fact that my Nigga Nas has done music with white artists like Kevin Rudolph. You don't think that's Nas embracing other cultures?? Yeah Ok. The nerve of you saying that I'm equating our struggles with the Euros. You don't know me dude or what I've been through so stop making stupid assumptions.

Its a well known fact that European music lacks soul and it aint deep in meaning.

WTF?? You have got to be kidding me, so you've heard all European music to make this claim?? FOH!!
Stop the bullchit my dude because you never even lived there to make this ridiculous claim.

 

[aijalon]

Needless to say I'll be remaining on this forum.

There is no debate or reasoning that can dispute the fact that Nas is the greatest of al ltime.

Your favorite rapper pales in comparison to the great.

 

[Gee_has_hot_picture]

Needless to say I'll be remaining on this forum.

There is no debate or reasoning that can dispute the fact that Nas is the greatest of al ltime.

Your favorite rapper pales in comparison to the great.

C/S if he isnt goat i dont know who is

only tupac overall career is better then nas

 

[Mumo X]

Yo all Euros aren't bad people so stop this pro-black chit talk with me. Don't try to tell me that I'm trying to equalize the african struggle with the Euros. Let me ask you a simple question. Were you born or raised in Europe?? Seriously my dude stop being close-minded. You acting like we are the only culture that has been oppressed by the white man. Other cultures have their own struggles and trials as well. Seriously I'm worried that you don't get where I'm coming from at all. You are so far away from my views its really scary. You need to travel outside of our continent first before you start acting all righteous and chit. And yet you seem to ignore the fact that my Nigga Nas has done music with white artists like Kevin Rudolph. You don't think that's Nas embracing other cultures?? Yeah Ok. The nerve of you saying that I'm equating our struggles with the Euros. You don't know me dude or what I've been through so stop making stupid assumptions.

WTF?? You have got to be kidding me, so you've heard all European music to make this claim?? FOH!!
Stop the bullchit my dude because you never even lived there to make this ridiculous claim.

I aint sayin ALL whites/Europeans are devils. Pliz get that in yo thick head. Realtalk I consider John Lennon as my hero. He an inspiration to me and all the conscious brothers out there cuz he fought the system. Plus i can claim the fact that amy winehouse is a talented musician. She is a gifted songwriter. Joss Stone got soul in her music. And stop wit that dummy questions. Its surprises me that a black man like u would go to any means necessary to try and defend the evils committed by the white man on this earth. Dont bring that childish talk of Europeans goin thru the struggle when all they did wuz invade the continent that birthd blacks(africa) and proceeded to rape our women, torture and kill our ancestors, steal our land,rob us of our minerals and divide/separate the black race inorder to weaken us. Only a mentally retarded african man would try to shield the Europeans smh! Wake up Child.

 

[melanated khemist]

PAC > NAS i mean PAC did give us White Mans World and Violent

Nas has been my 2nd favorite rapper since 96 and had a chance to pass Pac, but when he dropped Street's Disciple and HHID he all but solidified that #2 spot.

 

[melanated khemist]

PAC was the rapper Nas aspired to be. I cant shit on Nas, I dont even compare rappers to him thats an insult.

but lets keep it real

 

[hiphophova]

Nas cant make music he cant be goat, and he fell off while trying to find an identity.

his accolades for someone 20 years in the game is pathetic, if you want to be honest.

 

[7thwardslim]

Im 18 pages late but the thread title says it all........

If i recall right i just said this last week in a Jay-Z thread...........

If Nas not #1.........then yes Hip Hop is dead.......

If Nas not #1.........then Who the fuck is?

SideNote: Jay-Z retired after the Black Album...........

 

[blackstarr]

Nas and Pac the two GOAT's imo so im definitely co signin this thread

 

[Who Cares???]

his accolades for someone 20 years in the game is pathetic, if you want to be honest.

True indeed. I take this Nas #1 shit as an internet craze. I can barely find anyone in his own city that support this and I know a lotta hip hop enthusiast.

 

[KeepinItHundred]

Nas cant make music he cant be goat, and he fell off while trying to find an identity.

his accolades for someone 20 years in the game is pathetic, if you want to be honest.

how are his accolades pathetic? between his released and unreleased shit, he has enough shit for 5 or 6 5/5 albums.

 

[hiphophova]

how are his accolades pathetic? between his released and unreleased shit, he has enough shit for 5 or 6 5/5 albums.

Thats an opinion, someone can have the same opinion of Petey Pablo.

accolades = awards, critical acclaim, sales and relevance in popular culture.

 

[Jeezyfan4ever]

"a thug changes, and love changes and best friends become strangers" ... only nas

 

[jim1000]

Its surprises me that a black man like u would go to any means necessary to try and defend the evils committed by the white man on this earth.

Ok my dude I give up arguing with you. You don't understand me or know anything about me to say that I'm trying to defend the evils committed by the white man. Do you see anything like that related to my post?? You finally cleared up your feelings a little by actually not stereotyping Euros into one and to me it seems you were doing that.

I aint sayin ALL whites/Europeans are devils. Pliz get that in yo thick head

You never clarified this until now because you came off stereotyping Euros like they are all bad creatures and chit.

Dont bring that childish talk of Europeans goin thru the struggle when all they did wuz invade the continent that birthd blacks(africa) and proceeded to rape our women, torture and kill our ancestors, steal our land,rob us of our minerals and divide/separate the black race in order to weaken us. Only a mentally retarded african man would try to shield the Europeans smh! Wake up Child.

Seriously my brother you need to wake up. Once again you dont' have a clue as to where I was coming from with my views at all. How many times I'm I going to tell you son, I'm am not comparing what the Euros have gone thru compared to us blacks. But don't be ignorant and stupid and also realize that other cultures besides us have gone through their own struggles as well. Don't say made up chit like all Euro music lack substance and have no deep meaning when in fact you've never heard ALL TYPES OF EURO MUSIC. Son you need to realize thru your thick head that all types of music will have some type of meaning and deepness to it and the opposite holds true as well. So you're going to tell us niggas here that all hip hop music have deep meaning?? C'mon son stop this narrow mindedness and choose your battles carefully on what your saying because I'm the wrong brother you're trying to attack with this pro-blackness. I may be wrong but I bet you've never been to Europe before because you came off real ignorant when you try diss them by using this Jay vs Nas battle thing.

Also you seem to be the type of brother that can't see any faults in your heroes whatsoever. Listen I have heroes too but they are not God in my eyes and it seems like you are trying to make guys like Pac and Nas this perfect creature while dudes like Jay are way beneath them.

 

[reverend_al]

Ra or KRS.

yea anyone really around to listen to rap in the 80s gonna say Rakim or KRS1

90s kids gonna say either Biggie or Tupac

and 00s gonna say Nas or JayZ.

but don't sleep on KRS1 those old kats knew how to rock a party or move a crowd these new guys good at nothing but studio albums..

 

[Jeezyfan4ever]

Nope not my #1

1.Jay

2.NaS

ta loco mi manito

1. Nas

2. Jayz