If there is no "God", why be good?

[Rozetta5tone]

Atheist are just as bad as any theist when it comes to getting their "point" across...

neither side is right yet they clash daily..

reminds me of two retarded children trying to out-retard each other

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

Dro lets god inside

 

[LUClEN]

Laws and other earthly consequences. Havent read past first page but no doubt someone said karma

 

[CP203]

Dro, ALL sin is the same no matter what.

NAW, ALL SIN IS NOT THE SAME..

AND WHAT I MENT BY BY STATEMENT WAS, ME LOOKIN AT A CHICK AND LUSTING IS DIFFERENT FROM BE ACTUALLY FUCKING HER.. SEEING THAT MORE BAD SHYT CAN HAPPEN TO ME IE, GET AN STD, GET HER PREGNANT, HER HUSBAND KILLIN ME... JUST 2 NAME A FEW

 

[Dr.Chemix]

Its always the faggots who think this shit. If hell broke loose today, T/S would have been gorilla raped, shot, maimed, robbed and left for dead. You better be glad some good is here you moron

 

[Matt-]

it seems alot of agnostics/atheists don't really understand christianity. they understand how to ruffle feathers, but i don't think they are really able to argue it with any bit of objectivity.

 

[Matt-]

Laws and other earthly consequences. Havent read past first page but no doubt someone said karma

i didn't mention karma...but i did say that God or no God...being 'bad' is still gonna fuck you up during your life.. it doesn't matter about heaven/hell. devil/god....you go around avoiding 'good' then you are going to be dead or in jail.

 

[VulcanRaven]

woooooo grade A ether to blind religious followers

 

[damobb2deep]

woooooo grade A ether to blind religious followers

lol not really...

 

[Doctopian]

Atheist are just as bad as any theist when it comes to getting their "point" across...

neither side is right yet they clash daily..

reminds me of two retarded children trying to out-retard each other

While I agree that both sides can be equally obnoxious, I can't support the fallacy of false equivalence either. The presuppositions aren't on equal footing especially when you measure both against objectively verifiable reality. There's also the issue of "God" being a loaded term with as many definitions as there are theists. Of course, what it comes down to is faith; it's what makes sense out of the seemingly nonsensical. It also makes these "debates" pointless.

Its always the faggots who think this shit. If hell broke loose today, T/S would have been gorilla raped, shot, maimed, robbed and left for dead. You better be glad some good is here you moron

The original point of the thread might have gone over your head, Chemix. Understandable considering how far off topic the discussion got.

it seems alot of agnostics/atheists don't really understand christianity. they understand how to ruffle feathers, but i don't think they are really able to argue it with any bit of objectivity.

Please, elaborate.

 

[Dr.Chemix]

No topic goes over my head @Doctopian. Underestimating seems to be your achilles heel

 

[Doctopian]

No topic goes over my head @Doctopian. Underestimating seems to be your achilles heel

If that's the case, then what's up with your response? It would make sense if anyone claimed that we shouldn't be good or that good doesn't exist, but that wasn't the original point of the thread.

Believe it or not, I'm not trying to belittle you. I'm just trying to see where you are coming from.

 

[-Slim-]

that little essay mattered little to me. im a Buddhist and im told that being, "Good" by following the precepts and through general acts, thoughts, or deeds will gain me merit which will accumulate and carry over to my next life leading me that much closer to Liberation...or at least thats what I've been told. but i dont think of it like that. i think of it like this, its simple. negative actions only bring negative results. weather it be now or in the long run, your gonna get bit in the ass for whatever you did wrong. so i choose to act right, i don't need a God or an old book to tell me that.

 

[VIBE]

Its always the faggots who think this shit. If hell broke loose today, T/S would have been gorilla raped, shot, maimed, robbed and left for dead. You better be glad some good is here you moron

Is this with or without god?

You catch feelings easy Chemix, very easy.

You say "be glad SOME good is here", is this with or without god?

 

[alissowack]

I agree with the Einstein quote in respect to people using reward as a motive for why somebody worships God (and just for kicks, the Bible does talk about that). However, Dawkins seem only content with what the existence of God means morally...just like some religious folk may be. He is under the impression that the Bible is about earning a spot in Heaven through morals and maybe if he just (at least behind closed doors) do a thorough research on the Bible he would see that it is not.

 

[Dr.Chemix]

It isn't bout feelings dumb ass. Its about reality. You and others on this site misjudge my posts based on your own limited ignorance. My point was simple. Without good, evil would run rampant in a degree unimaginable. Someone of your stature wouldn't be able to defend yourself from the dormant beast that lies within man. So while you being sarcastic, you need to give gratitude. Imagine, throwing you in a prison 10 times worse where nothing can save you.

 

[Bodhi]

InB4 Judahxulu owns this thread.

because you can't?

 

[loch121]

Interesting

but who cares if the powerless are good or bad

the question is if you had world power what would you do?

 

[Bodhi]

Good and evil only exist in the minds of sentient beings. Being conscious of the world around us, we eventually stumble upon something we can call "less favorable" or "more favorable". These things can equal to a "evil" and "good", respectively. We would never be able to get around that. IMO, suffering is the only concrete "evil". What we can believe to be "evil" is any number of things that lead up to suffering of mankind or any conscious being, individually or as a group. This seems to be true whether there is a god or not, and makes god unnecessary for good and evil to occur.

I do not believe in a creator god, but I believe in doing good for the universe because our actions are like throwing a rock into a pond. When you do, it creates ripples in the water. Likewise, throwing negative energy into the universe creates "ripples"

 

[Bodhi]

Without good, evil would run rampant in a degree unimaginable.

One cannot exist without the other.

What is this "dormant beast that lies within man"? Is that something you speak of based off personal, internal experience? Where is your research that proves man is naturally evil? Being that man is a social creature, it would make sense to believe that man is naturally "good"