If Hip Hop Ended Tomorrow Would Lil Wayne Be Top 10 DOA?

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nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings?
 
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

 
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?
 
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.
 
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

 
5 Grand;c-9728448 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

Learn how to read old nigga. I said undisputed classics are what people judge niggas on. Wayne is a hall of famer and his stats sales wise speak for him to be a legend. But to crack the top 10 his albums have to be known by fans as classics. Every album outside of C1 and C2 are not even up for debate about if they are classic albums. Most of fans don't even know a song like "Get of tha Corner" exists let alone lights out being close to a classic album.

He can be in the talks for top 15 or 20 but as far as his overall body of work and how people think of him he is not top 10 DOA. The majority of his albums and mixtapes are fast food.

 
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

 
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

Majority of that list has more timeless songs and albums than Wayne
 
5 Grand;c-9728448 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

So the C2 is triple platinum and platinum as well
 
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728465 said:
5 Grand;c-9728448 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

Learn how to read old nigga. I said undisputed classics are what people judge niggas on. Wayne is a hall of famer and his stats sales wise speak for him to be a legend. But to crack the top 10 his albums have to be known by fans as classics. Every album outside of C1 and C2 are not even up for debate about if they are classic albums. Most of fans don't even know a song like "Get of tha Corner" exists let alone lights out being close to a classic album.

He can be in the talks for top 15 or 20 but as far as his overall body of work and how people think of him he is not top 10 DOA. The majority of his albums and mixtapes are fast food.

So according to you he has 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum+ albums, a number 1 hit and two "classics".

My point about the awards, sales and #1 hits is that it's tangible. Those are quantitative statistics.

A "classic album" isn't quantitative, its qualitative. Some people might consider certain albums to be classic while others may disagree. But there's no debate when discussing how many records he sold, how many Grammy awards he has or how many number one songs he has.
 
5 Grand;c-9728935 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728465 said:
5 Grand;c-9728448 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

Learn how to read old nigga. I said undisputed classics are what people judge niggas on. Wayne is a hall of famer and his stats sales wise speak for him to be a legend. But to crack the top 10 his albums have to be known by fans as classics. Every album outside of C1 and C2 are not even up for debate about if they are classic albums. Most of fans don't even know a song like "Get of tha Corner" exists let alone lights out being close to a classic album.

He can be in the talks for top 15 or 20 but as far as his overall body of work and how people think of him he is not top 10 DOA. The majority of his albums and mixtapes are fast food.

So according to you he has 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum+ albums, a number 1 hit and two "classics".

My point about the awards, sales and #1 hits is that it's tangible. Those are quantitative statistics.

A "classic album" isn't quantitative, its qualitative. Some people might consider certain albums to be classic while others may disagree. But there's no debate when discussing how many records he sold, how many Grammy awards he has or how many number one songs he has.

Grammy's are given based on bias and speculation. Many legends have one or even 0 Grammy's. So that is based on which album older white music powers that be voted to win.

Sales are based on popularity at the time an album drops. But it doesn't account for how that album fares with time or how much replay value the album has. That is why Tha Carter 3 sold more than better wayne albums in C2 and C1.

This poll/thread alone is more tangible than the sales numbers or Grammy numbers and the poll rules in favor of Wayne not being top 10.
 
5 Grand;c-9728448 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

Pac never won a Grammy

BIG never won a Grammy

Ice Cube never won a Grammy

DMX never won a Grammy

Scarface never won a Grammy

MC Hammer won a Grammy
 
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blacktux;c-9726502 said:
Big aint have the longevity. Its been said before what big did 50 and DMX did too, and look where they are now. How many other rappers came out on fire and fizzled the fuck out.

Im putting wayne over

Big

Common

Ghostface

Bdk

LL

Eminem

Cube

So thats 6 off that list.

Prime wayne was to rap what mayweather was to boxing. Everyone was watching and everyone wanted a piece.

IF YOU DON'T STOP SUCKING DICK

 
Put it this way...if I made a top 20 list, I might have a hard time finding room for Wayne. No diss I just think I can put a decent list of 20 rappers I would prefer to wayne
 
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MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728465 said:
5 Grand;c-9728448 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

Learn how to read old nigga. I said undisputed classics are what people judge niggas on. Wayne is a hall of famer and his stats sales wise speak for him to be a legend. But to crack the top 10 his albums have to be known by fans as classics. Every album outside of C1 and C2 are not even up for debate about if they are classic albums. Most of fans don't even know a song like "Get of tha Corner" exists let alone lights out being close to a classic album.

He can be in the talks for top 15 or 20 but as far as his overall body of work and how people think of him he is not top 10 DOA. The majority of his albums and mixtapes are fast food.

Wat tha ppl say an wat tha numbers say is 2 diff things thats like sayin the ppl think a.i is better then Jordan bcuz he crossed em but to tha nba Jordan got tha rings an ai don't so who's better wit better stats

 
trendsetta1030;c-9729821 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728465 said:
5 Grand;c-9728448 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-9728386 said:
5 Grand;c-9728343 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9728335 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728214 said:
nujerz84;c-9728035 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9728008 said:
Revolver Ocelot;c-9727249 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9726969 said:
KamPushMe;c-9725748 said:
Shizlansky;c-9725667 said:
I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
nujerz84;c-9727444 said:
dalyricalbandit;c-9726455 said:
Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

Learn how to read old nigga. I said undisputed classics are what people judge niggas on. Wayne is a hall of famer and his stats sales wise speak for him to be a legend. But to crack the top 10 his albums have to be known by fans as classics. Every album outside of C1 and C2 are not even up for debate about if they are classic albums. Most of fans don't even know a song like "Get of tha Corner" exists let alone lights out being close to a classic album.

He can be in the talks for top 15 or 20 but as far as his overall body of work and how people think of him he is not top 10 DOA. The majority of his albums and mixtapes are fast food.

Wat tha ppl say an wat tha numbers say is 2 diff things thats like sayin the ppl think a.i is better then Jordan bcuz he crossed em but to tha nba Jordan got tha rings an ai don't so who's better wit better stats

Sales are not the same is rings though as sales is based on popularity and rings in sports are based on winning games not popularity.

This is why Carter 3 sold more than the first 2 Carters but isn't a better overall project. The top 10 in sports is based strictly on titles and stats. The top 10 in hip hop isn't based on rings otherwise Biggie would never be in anybody's top 10 given he only had 2 projects. What the top 10 in hip hop is based on is what projects stand the test of time. Nas Albums stood the test of time and are still talked and raved about today 20 years later. Wayne is a decade removed from C1 and C2 and his Studio albums aren't nearly as revered as an Illmatic or Reasonable doubt or Ready to Die.
 
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I still don't know why BIG is a top ten rapper to a lot of ppl.

Fuck u mean? He has two back to back classics. One of the dopest lyricist of all time. His flow was impeccable. Two of his albums are debatably in the 10 top hip hop albums of all time. Fuck is you talking bout.

Lyrically

Nas>big

Flow

Big>nas

Back on topic

WTF does Nas got to w/ anything, we talking about Wayne.

Ask bra he talmbout big the most lyrical

You
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Jay

Nas

Pac

Big

Em

LL

Face

3000

X

Cube

Rakim

BDK

Kanye

Common

Ghostface

thats 15 easy

Here are More MC's lyrically bar for bar, rhyme for rhyme shits on Wayne

Redman

GZA

Raekwon

Kool G Rap

Black Thought

Phonte

Killer Mike

Sean Price

Beanie Sigel

Krs-One

Styles P

Jadakiss

AZ

OC

Camron

Big Pun

Prodigy

Busta Rhymes

Bun B

Andre 3000

Ludacris

Lupe Fiasco

Eightball

Xzibit

Kool Moe Dee

Elizhi

Slick Rick

Mos Def

Royce Da 5'9"

Ras Kass

Kurupt

Snoop

Crooked I

Joell Ortiz

Joe Budden

Fabolous

Talib Kweli

Pharahoe Monch

Thats more than 50 I could name more as well Lil Wayne is fucking wack.

Yea they can rhyme but can they make songs,… half yo list can't even make songs or a complete album

So in other words its really about mainstream success despite Most of the list having gold/platnium albums and songs to there resume as well as being grammy nominated.

FOH Lil Wayne is overrated garbage.

Do nba players play 2 win the game or to try an win the championship?

You can be the goat ball player but do you have rings
?

This make no fucking sense what so ever.

Seeing as the gold/platinum albums and songs in rap = NBA championship

That analogy makes sense.

A "ring" would be a #1 hit, a gold/platinum plaque or a grammy award. And if you get all three in one year I'd consider that a "ring".

I wonder how many rappers got a #1 hit, a platinum plaque and a grammy award all in the span of 12 months?

No #1 hit do not equal a ring. #1 hits if anything is the MVP award. Hundreds of rappers have had a #1 hit. Few rappers have had undisputed classic albums that changed the game and have replay value.

This is the #1 issue with wayne when it comes to his ranking. He had 2 great albums in C1 and C2 but the #1 hits and platinum albums outside C1 and C2 did not stand the test of time. Nor did those albums have a strategic flow and focus to make them as legendary.

Wayne put out a shit ton of material and was flashy and quick like an AI or Russel Westbrook. But that doesn't get you top 10 of all time access. As there are 10 players you could put above AI as far as the NBA all time list.

I'm not saying Wayne is top 10 DOA, but he's achieved tangible accolades

4 Grammy Awards

Best Rap Performance 2017 - No Problem

Best Rap Album 2009 - Tha Carter II

Best Rap Song 2009 - Lollipop

Best Rap Solo Performance 2009 - A Milli

Best Rap Performance By A Duo Or Group 2009 - Swagga Like Us

4 Platinum albums

The Block Is Hot - Platinum

Tha Carter II - Platinum

Tha Carter II - 3X Platinum

Tha Carter IV - 2X Platinum

1 number one song

Lollipop - May 3, 2008

I don't know how far you want to take the basketball analogy, but if you have 4 Grammys, 4 Platinum albums and a number one song, I'd say you have a "ring". Not saying that makes him top 10 DOA but he's certainly accomplished what any aspiring rapper wants to accomplish.

Learn how to read old nigga. I said undisputed classics are what people judge niggas on. Wayne is a hall of famer and his stats sales wise speak for him to be a legend. But to crack the top 10 his albums have to be known by fans as classics. Every album outside of C1 and C2 are not even up for debate about if they are classic albums. Most of fans don't even know a song like "Get of tha Corner" exists let alone lights out being close to a classic album.

He can be in the talks for top 15 or 20 but as far as his overall body of work and how people think of him he is not top 10 DOA. The majority of his albums and mixtapes are fast food.

Wat tha ppl say an wat tha numbers say is 2 diff things thats like sayin the ppl think a.i is better then Jordan bcuz he crossed em but to tha nba Jordan got tha rings an ai don't so who's better wit better stats

Sales are not the same is rings though as sales is based on popularity and rings in sports are based on winning games not popularity.

This is why Carter 3 sold more than the first 2 Carters but isn't a better overall project. The top 10 in sports is based strictly on titles and stats. The top 10 in hip hop isn't based on rings otherwise Biggie would never be in anybody's top 10 given he only had 2 projects. What the top 10 in hip hop is based on is what projects stand the test of time. Nas Albums stood the test of time and are still talked and raved about today 20 years later. Wayne is a decade removed from C1 and C2 and his Studio albums aren't nearly as revered as an Illmatic or Reasonable doubt or Ready to Die.

Big not in my top 10 stop been bias that's only ny thoughts you sir must be frm ny or east coast… an that's why everyone always say how. An big be top 10 wit only 2 albums… ny respond oh he has 2 classics wat makes them classics only because ny says so see bra that's tha difference wit big an PAC you can consider PAC tha greatest of his stats he accomplish way more then big… this tha thing if I dropped a cd 2 mor I can careless who says my shit hit my question is did you buy it
 

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