If god is real and so is "Satan"...

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beenwize;3605014 said:
ive heard that the oldest religious book in the world is the egyptian "book of the dead"

they had a firm belief in life after death and have many books on the subject.

how is it possible that the egyptians have a belief in life after death if the bible says everybody that dies waits in sleep for judgement day when Jesus comes?

And even in this modern day people that have near death experiences have memories of a otherworldly experience or continuation after this bodily death.

i've had an o.b.e. i literally died. there is no heaven or hell. but u remain conscious. people be bullshitting. and the book of the dead aint the oldest book.
 
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judahxulu;3609883 said:
i've had an o.b.e. i literally died. there is no heaven or hell. but u remain conscious. people be bullshitting. and the book of the dead aint the oldest book.

i've had obes too...some by random and some by a practice inducing them...and the conclusion i came to is, at the end of the day, obey God...because as real as we know the experience to be as when we experienced them, we still can't be 100% sure that we accepted nothing but the 100% truth about the experience we had.
 
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judahxulu;3612921 said:
just because u haven't experienced something or u dont BELIEVE it to exist doesnt mean its not real.

Not saying it's not real, just that there's an explanation. People w n.d.e experience the same thing. It's the brain.
 
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personally it seems far more logical that 'Satan' is mostly a thing man created as a kind of 'sick note'. All the mythologies cool if you're into it, but I need to keep responsibility for my own actions and decisions for or against temptations, not blame them on Satan.. And it's just my opinion, I may well be wrong, but I can absolutely believe in a 'God' concept without believing in an afterlife. And that's cool with me - I think people automatically link 'God' to an afterlife,, and to me that's something that needs to be individually questioned as to why.
 
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VIBE86;3614282 said:
Not saying it's not real, just that there's an explanation. People w n.d.e experience the same thing. It's the brain.

not to derail the thread but simply saying it's the brain doesn't offer much insight.
 
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Well I'm no expert, I only know what I've watched and read, maybe a topic can be started on this...
 
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i don't mind, but my guess is it'll probably flop cuz it's a topic too far above most these R&R posters heads. i wouldn't expect too many meaningful contributions.
 
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VIBE86;3614282 said:
Not saying it's not real, just that there's an explanation. People w n.d.e experience the same thing. It's the brain.

thats vague and what "same thing". not all accounts of o.b.e.'s or n.d.e.'s are the same. i'm speaking of my experience not what i've heard. i don't understand why you and others with similar stances and dispositions on here comment on things you know nothing of, have allready made up your minds about before you research, half-ass research and then act like you know what you're talking about because you can parrot an explanation that is obviously secondhand information. your presuppositions hide from your own mind a simple yet profound truth- you don't KNOW what you're talking about. its just the brain, huh? and where did you get this information? how come this source has that much insight into the brain but can not solve the inability of man to think correctly as evidenced by the condition of societies worldwide, the earth itself and individual families? the thought and worldview you express is pretty much in concert with that mindstate that rules the world and decides what is true ior not according to "reason" and 'rationality". what then is the hard evidence that this is beneficial to mankind? if you cannot answer this honestly with no bullshit rhetoric then perhaps you need to question the illusory experience YOUR BRAIN is experiencing.
 
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VIBE86;3603699 said:
So you're going to turn a blind eye to the fact that every time he went to do this, Pharaoh was prevented from doing so by God. God hardened his heart, God CHANGED his MIND for HIM. Pharaoh was a puppet.

Really, that's exactly how it plays out too.

Pharaoh: I'll let your peeps go

God: No you won't, *zap*

Pharaoh: the fuck? I ain't letting SHIT GO, get out BIIIITCH

Moses: God's gonna fuck your people up

Pharaoh: Okay, I'll do it, hold up a min..

God: lol, hell no *zap zap*

Pharaoh: The fuck you think I'm gonna bitch out like that for? fuck off

Moses: Maaaan I'm tellin' ya!

Pharaoh: Man, I said I would let them go, I don't know what the fuck is up, HOLD UP

God: @Satan, this is funny huh... *zap zap*

Pharaoh: Fuck off Moses and fuck your God...

Moses: @God, yo he ain't doing it..

God: @Moses, hold up, I got some plagues cooking up right now..

Satan: @God, man, that's fucked, I wouldn't even do that

God: @Satan, stfu man lol get over it

I'm pretty sure it'd play out just like that lol

Lmfao Satan stop following God on Twitter that day.
 
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judahxulu;3617757 said:
thats vague and what "same thing". not all accounts of o.b.e.'s or n.d.e.'s are the same. i'm speaking of my experience not what i've heard. i don't understand why you and others with similar stances and dispositions on here comment on things you know nothing of, have allready made up your minds about before you research, half-ass research and then act like you know what you're talking about because you can parrot an explanation that is obviously secondhand information. your presuppositions hide from your own mind a simple yet profound truth- you don't KNOW what you're talking about. its just the brain, huh? and where did you get this information? how come this source has that much insight into the brain but can not solve the inability of man to think correctly as evidenced by the condition of societies worldwide, the earth itself and individual families? the thought and worldview you express is pretty much in concert with that mindstate that rules the world and decides what is true ior not according to "reason" and 'rationality". what then is the hard evidence that this is beneficial to mankind? if you cannot answer this honestly with no bullshit rhetoric then perhaps you need to question the illusory experience YOUR BRAIN is experiencing.

This was actually accidentally stumbled upon, now I don't know the correct term for what the machine is, but it's used for g forces and it spins you around. Astronauts, pilots and shit use it. They would black out and report a "o.b.e" or "n.d.e" type of feelings. So they studied that and what not. It's real but it's not real.
 
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judahxulu;3617757 said:
thats vague and what "same thing". not all accounts of o.b.e.'s or n.d.e.'s are the same. i'm speaking of my experience not what i've heard. i don't understand why you and others with similar stances and dispositions on here comment on things you know nothing of, have allready made up your minds about before you research, half-ass research and then act like you know what you're talking about because you can parrot an explanation that is obviously secondhand information. your presuppositions hide from your own mind a simple yet profound truth- you don't KNOW what you're talking about. its just the brain, huh? and where did you get this information? how come this source has that much insight into the brain but can not solve the inability of man to think correctly as evidenced by the condition of societies worldwide, the earth itself and individual families? the thought and worldview you express is pretty much in concert with that mindstate that rules the world and decides what is true ior not according to "reason" and 'rationality". what then is the hard evidence that this is beneficial to mankind? if you cannot answer this honestly with no bullshit rhetoric then perhaps you need to question the illusory experience YOUR BRAIN is experiencing.[/QUOTE]

pure, unadulterated Ether
 
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Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious

And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion

Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan

The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.

When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)
http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
 
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