Identify Your Primary Identifier

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gorilla;6113168 said:
OK, so instead we should segregate based on gender then? Exactly, you identifying more with gender doesn't mean you're for male/female segregation anymore than my stance means I wanna see whites/coloreds come back.

See we forgot just that fast that we were reminded yet again what they really think about us, a couple weeks ago. When will black folk realize all we really got is each other and we need to focus on working out our issues first? We stay tryna align ourselves with those who clearly see a difference based on our skin color.

Every other race stay shittin on us, even other minorities think we ain't shit, but yall identify with them? Identify with gender all you want, this false sense of inclusion got yall believing a lie.

you have to be a bit more ignorant for some people to understand what your saying. an have to thru in wshh and something about a big ass hoe.
 
stop living on extremes...

identifying with your gender first doesn't mean completely discrediting race...

it just means you're a man or woman first...kinda like what MLK pretty much stood for....

 
Du_Du;6113186 said:
stop living on extremes...

identifying with your gender first doesn't mean completely discrediting race...

it just means you're a man or woman first...kinda like what MLK pretty much stood for....

i think he meant equality amongst all people.

you know..lil white kids playing with lil black kids
 
lemzola;6112963 said:
I go for the gender. I m black who has been part of a multiracial family. I am serving in a mutiracial army and my french friends are white.

It doesnt makes me forget that the conservatives are making it tough for me but i also aknowledge the fact that their are some progressists white people around me.

I ve experienced more black on black racism and silly hatred than wihte racism. Thats why i rely on gender and personality to define myself.

but you don understand that what your saying is because you a black man.. not because your just black
 
gorilla;6113168 said:
OK, so instead we should segregate based on gender then? Exactly, you identifying more with gender doesn't mean you're for male/female segregation anymore than my stance means I wanna see whites/coloreds come back.

See we forgot just that fast that we were reminded yet again what they really think about us, a couple weeks ago. When will black folk realize all we really got is each other and we need to focus on working out our issues first? We stay tryna align ourselves with those who clearly see a difference based on our skin color.

Every other race stay shittin on us, even other minorities think we ain't shit, but yall identify with them? Identify with gender all you want, this false sense of inclusion got yall believing a lie.

You keep on generalizing. It s too simple. Always that same rethoric that leads you to nowhere.

You have to broaden you life experience.

You are like the schyzophrenic arabics that live in France. They dont were born in France they consume eat french everyday and they live mentally in another world where they ensure themselves that they are not french.

Bruh you got a black president for who some white people have voted and against who some black people have voted.

You see one side of the coin. White people in europe were outside for Trayvor Martin.

Stop with that 'everybody is racist' shit you sound retarted and racist as well.
 
pralims;6113243 said:
Du_Du;6113186 said:
stop living on extremes...

identifying with your gender first doesn't mean completely discrediting race...

it just means you're a man or woman first...kinda like what MLK pretty much stood for....

i think he meant equality amongst all people.

you know..lil white kids playing with lil black kids

man he wanted the country to stand behind the statement that all men were created equal, that his children would be judged by their character and not their skin color....

basically he was saying color shouldn't matter.....

a man is a man, a woman is a woman....regardless of race....

 
I don't even know how to approach this question.

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Color doesn't matter, all men were "created" equal though that is where it ends. My answer is in that when we wake up every morning, that person in the mirror is who you Identify with and the first thing I notice is being white. It was the way I was raised, besides identifying with my gender seems "gay" n/h.
 
lemzola;6113261 said:
gorilla;6113168 said:
OK, so instead we should segregate based on gender then? Exactly, you identifying more with gender doesn't mean you're for male/female segregation anymore than my stance means I wanna see whites/coloreds come back.

See we forgot just that fast that we were reminded yet again what they really think about us, a couple weeks ago. When will black folk realize all we really got is each other and we need to focus on working out our issues first? We stay tryna align ourselves with those who clearly see a difference based on our skin color.

Every other race stay shittin on us, even other minorities think we ain't shit, but yall identify with them? Identify with gender all you want, this false sense of inclusion got yall believing a lie.

You keep on generalizing. It s too simple. Always that same rethoric that leads you to nowhere.

You have to broaden you life experience.

You are like the schyzophrenic arabics that live in France. They dont were born in France they consume eat french everyday and they live mentally in another world where they ensure themselves that they are not french.

Bruh you got a black president for who some white people have voted and against who some black people have voted.

You see one side of the coin. White people in europe were outside for Trayvor Martin.

Stop with that 'everybody is racist' shit you sound retarted and racist as well.

And you ain't generalizing by trying to act like shit is sweet? FOH

Again, quit acting like everybody holdin hands and singing kumbaya around this mothafucka. People throwin bananas at black players at soccer games over there and shit.

White people in Europe were outside for Trayvon huh, so where some here in the US, but there were a whole lotta "get over it" and "that thug got what he deserved", and you're telling me I'm supposed to identify with that shit? You sound crazy.

Black president who gets called all kinds of monkeys and niggers damn near everyday. Just cuz some white folks are down, some black folk wanna rejoice as if we done made it to the promised land or some shit.

 
gorilla;6113329 said:
lemzola;6113261 said:
gorilla;6113168 said:
OK, so instead we should segregate based on gender then? Exactly, you identifying more with gender doesn't mean you're for male/female segregation anymore than my stance means I wanna see whites/coloreds come back.

See we forgot just that fast that we were reminded yet again what they really think about us, a couple weeks ago. When will black folk realize all we really got is each other and we need to focus on working out our issues first? We stay tryna align ourselves with those who clearly see a difference based on our skin color.

Every other race stay shittin on us, even other minorities think we ain't shit, but yall identify with them? Identify with gender all you want, this false sense of inclusion got yall believing a lie.

You keep on generalizing. It s too simple. Always that same rethoric that leads you to nowhere.

You have to broaden you life experience.

You are like the schyzophrenic arabics that live in France. They dont were born in France they consume eat french everyday and they live mentally in another world where they ensure themselves that they are not french.

Bruh you got a black president for who some white people have voted and against who some black people have voted.

You see one side of the coin. White people in europe were outside for Trayvor Martin.

Stop with that 'everybody is racist' shit you sound retarted and racist as well.

And you ain't generalizing by trying to act like shit is sweet? FOH

Again, quit acting like everybody holdin hands and singing kumbaya around this mothafucka. People throwin bananas at black players at soccer games over there and shit.

White people in Europe were outside for Trayvon huh, so where some here in the US, but there were a whole lotta "get over it" and "that thug got what he deserved", and you're telling me I'm supposed to identify with that shit? You sound crazy.

Black president who gets called all kinds of monkeys and niggers damn near everyday. Just cuz some white folks are down, some black folk wanna rejoice as if we done made it to the promised land or some shit.

Bruh i m not here to telling you who you have to be and i never did.

You only see on side of the coin again. I look at both!!!

You are using the same phrases other racists people of other races use : that kumbaya holding hands rethoric sweets rethoric

Negativity leads to nowhere.

Generalization is not productive.

Life is like a dissertation : thesis antithesis synthesis .

Unfortunately you are stuck on the antithesis

 
Du_Du;6113267 said:
pralims;6113243 said:
Du_Du;6113186 said:
stop living on extremes...

identifying with your gender first doesn't mean completely discrediting race...

it just means you're a man or woman first...kinda like what MLK pretty much stood for....

i think he meant equality amongst all people.

you know..lil white kids playing with lil black kids

man he wanted the country to stand behind the statement that all men were created equal, that his children would be judged by their character and not their skin color....

basically he was saying color shouldn't matter.....

a man is a man, a woman is a woman....regardless of race....

ok...i think we just said the same thing

i think
 
PK_TK_187;6109966 said:
i dont see myself as African American.

i see myself as a human being.

I guess i would identify as male but i dont believe in the gender roles

I swear to God I thought you were a woman this whole time
 
lemzola;6113362 said:
gorilla;6113329 said:
lemzola;6113261 said:
gorilla;6113168 said:
OK, so instead we should segregate based on gender then? Exactly, you identifying more with gender doesn't mean you're for male/female segregation anymore than my stance means I wanna see whites/coloreds come back.

See we forgot just that fast that we were reminded yet again what they really think about us, a couple weeks ago. When will black folk realize all we really got is each other and we need to focus on working out our issues first? We stay tryna align ourselves with those who clearly see a difference based on our skin color.

Every other race stay shittin on us, even other minorities think we ain't shit, but yall identify with them? Identify with gender all you want, this false sense of inclusion got yall believing a lie.

You keep on generalizing. It s too simple. Always that same rethoric that leads you to nowhere.

You have to broaden you life experience.

You are like the schyzophrenic arabics that live in France. They dont were born in France they consume eat french everyday and they live mentally in another world where they ensure themselves that they are not french.

Bruh you got a black president for who some white people have voted and against who some black people have voted.

You see one side of the coin. White people in europe were outside for Trayvor Martin.

Stop with that 'everybody is racist' shit you sound retarted and racist as well.

And you ain't generalizing by trying to act like shit is sweet? FOH

Again, quit acting like everybody holdin hands and singing kumbaya around this mothafucka. People throwin bananas at black players at soccer games over there and shit.

White people in Europe were outside for Trayvon huh, so where some here in the US, but there were a whole lotta "get over it" and "that thug got what he deserved", and you're telling me I'm supposed to identify with that shit? You sound crazy.

Black president who gets called all kinds of monkeys and niggers damn near everyday. Just cuz some white folks are down, some black folk wanna rejoice as if we done made it to the promised land or some shit.

Bruh i m not here to telling you who you have to be and i never did.

You only see on side of the coin again. I look at both!!!

You are using the same phrases other racists people of other races use : that kumbaya holding hands rethoric sweets rethoric

Negativity leads to nowhere.

Generalization is not productive.

Life is like a dissertation : thesis antithesis synthesis .

Unfortunately you are stuck on the antithesis

I didn't create the negativity. I didn't create the racial divide.

Both sides of the coin you say? Well from the side I'm on, I can see there's still a lotta bullshit on the other side. I'm not that person that walks thru life with their eyes and ears covered.

You talkin generalization yet I'm not saying all people are one way or another. I'm stating facts that are still happening and if it really was as you pretend it to be, these things wouldn't be happening.

I'm a black man, and will always be proud of that. Yeah I'd love for things to be where people don't see color but that ain't the case. The whole illusion of inclusion has caused many of us to lose that pride necessary to propel our community as a whole because we get to caught up in fitting in when we actually don't.

See you want it to be one way, but it's the other way

 
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Just cause I appreciate all ethnicity by no means robs me of pride in my own. Just say no to sausage fests.
 
This is a good question.

To answer, I can't say I identify with either really. I'm happy being black and glad I'm a male, I can't say I really define my identity by either characteristic.
 
some coon shit I'm reading in this thread haha

I'm black man on equal fronts..........however I find way more in common with a black woman before I can relate to a man of any other color

supremacy may be a concept that ascends above race, or even gender for that matter...............but I only care about my house being taken care of before I start worrying about others'

my house being the black family/community
 
gorilla;6113984 said:
lemzola;6113362 said:
gorilla;6113329 said:
lemzola;6113261 said:
gorilla;6113168 said:
OK, so instead we should segregate based on gender then? Exactly, you identifying more with gender doesn't mean you're for male/female segregation anymore than my stance means I wanna see whites/coloreds come back.

See we forgot just that fast that we were reminded yet again what they really think about us, a couple weeks ago. When will black folk realize all we really got is each other and we need to focus on working out our issues first? We stay tryna align ourselves with those who clearly see a difference based on our skin color.

Every other race stay shittin on us, even other minorities think we ain't shit, but yall identify with them? Identify with gender all you want, this false sense of inclusion got yall believing a lie.

You keep on generalizing. It s too simple. Always that same rethoric that leads you to nowhere.

You have to broaden you life experience.

You are like the schyzophrenic arabics that live in France. They dont were born in France they consume eat french everyday and they live mentally in another world where they ensure themselves that they are not french.

Bruh you got a black president for who some white people have voted and against who some black people have voted.

You see one side of the coin. White people in europe were outside for Trayvor Martin.

Stop with that 'everybody is racist' shit you sound retarted and racist as well.

And you ain't generalizing by trying to act like shit is sweet? FOH

Again, quit acting like everybody holdin hands and singing kumbaya around this mothafucka. People throwin bananas at black players at soccer games over there and shit.

White people in Europe were outside for Trayvon huh, so where some here in the US, but there were a whole lotta "get over it" and "that thug got what he deserved", and you're telling me I'm supposed to identify with that shit? You sound crazy.

Black president who gets called all kinds of monkeys and niggers damn near everyday. Just cuz some white folks are down, some black folk wanna rejoice as if we done made it to the promised land or some shit.

Bruh i m not here to telling you who you have to be and i never did.

You only see on side of the coin again. I look at both!!!

You are using the same phrases other racists people of other races use : that kumbaya holding hands rethoric sweets rethoric

Negativity leads to nowhere.

Generalization is not productive.

Life is like a dissertation : thesis antithesis synthesis .

Unfortunately you are stuck on the antithesis

I didn't create the negativity. I didn't create the racial divide.

Both sides of the coin you say? Well from the side I'm on, I can see there's still a lotta bullshit on the other side. I'm not that person that walks thru life with their eyes and ears covered.

You talkin generalization yet I'm not saying all people are one way or another. I'm stating facts that are still happening and if it really was as you pretend it to be, these things wouldn't be happening.

I'm a black man, and will always be proud of that. Yeah I'd love for things to be where people don't see color but that ain't the case. The whole illusion of inclusion has caused many of us to lose that pride necessary to propel our community as a whole because we get to caught up in fitting in when we actually don't.

See you want it to be one way, but it's the other way

Bruh we all state facts. And i ve never said that you were responsible of racial divide.you re proud to be black so are we bruh. By saying this you make all the people who disagree with you look like they are ashamed to be black. It may not be your intention but...

We are not blind to the facts

But you chose to focus on the negative aspects.

We are taking down our communities bruh : druggs black on black crime, haters, uneducation is cool, self made mindset, baby mamas, junk food.

Yes we got police brutality and racists white people. But now they are just siting back holding their beers and watching us jim crowing each other.

Reagan put the druggs on the hood. We had the choice and we still have.

You see i want the same the damen thing as you but i aknowledge that we have our part to play
 
Great thread Six.. And some good posts by Lil Loca, especially the one about growing up with white people. As you said, and based on my empirical experience, it either forces you to assimilate, or cling to your race.
 
race. If I even begin to even consider entertaining the idea that I'm a man first; something happens to let me know that I'm black first and foremost and along with that comes certain criteria that shapes my existence as a man.
 

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