Ice Cube or Jay-Z

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tompetrez3;5516297 said:
Jigga warriors still haven't produced one name that Jay Z has beat in a battle on wax. Now that I'm thinking about it I have never seen Jay Z come out of a lyrical scrap with a win. Deshawn Stephenson and meeno??? Foh

Jay didn't beat Prodigy?

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gotta go with Cube. but Jay will never win in a vs. thread. he gets too much unwanted hate. i think it's because he has done so much on the business side that it overshadows rap. I never bring up that shit. to me Jay is one of the greatest to do it. I don't give a fuck about the other shit but I gotta go with Cube. his influence and classics outweigh Jays but from a technical standpoint I feel Jay is better. Cube is that nigga. white people were terrified just because of his words and he gets nothing but the utmost respect from me for that shit. white people hated to see a black man just not give a fuck and use his voice to touch the masses. that's GOAT shit in itself.

the way he touched on real shit that was actually going on in the hood is unrivaled. that's what conscious music is to me. I don't wanna hear that "we are the world" or "kumbaye" shit because it's not real.

Truthfully I feel his influence at the time was bigger than Pacs and that isn't to take anything from him. I just feel his death catapulted him into the untouchable lane.
 
hmm im kinda surprised at how wide a margin jay is losing by. based on the t/s categories i really dont see how cube can be winning

Flow- this is easily jay

Delivery- cube? really? nah i cant...i just cant give him that one

Lyrics- toss up...depends on u but i gotta go with jay...his wordplay is better

Songs- again clearly jay...cube career is great but does he really have more radio hits, club bangers, street anthems than jay?

Albums- toss up...depends on u

just my 2 cents
 
semi-auto-mato;5516599 said:
hmm im kinda surprised at how wide a margin jay is losing by. based on the t/s categories i really dont see how cube can be winning

Flow- this is easily jay

Delivery- cube? really? nah i cant...i just cant give him that one

Lyrics- toss up...depends on u but i gotta go with jay...his wordplay is better

Songs- again clearly jay...cube career is great but does he really have more radio hits, club bangers, street anthems than jay?

Albums- toss up...depends on u

just my 2 cents
 
I go with Jay, but Cube was nice back in the day. He had a good 3 or 4 yrs without NWA, but besides that, I can't really say much about him. I was that dude that loved the militant shit back in the days. Cube was definitely one of the dudes who were socially conscious, but to me, he wasn't even that dude when it came to that shit. BDP was more my shit, but to each his own. I can't knock anyone for voting for Cube because he definitely had his moments.
 
Ice Cube can tell a story wit the best of em and has substance on his 1st 3 albums and kill at will that blacc people can relate too and Death Certificate is better than any album Jigga ever made

That bein said Cube as a rappa has been irrelevant since the mid 90's.Jigga is chasin Big for da Goat spot
 
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tompetrez3;5516297 said:
Jigga warriors still haven't produced one name that Jay Z has beat in a battle on wax. Now that I'm thinking about it I have never seen Jay Z come out of a lyrical scrap with a win. Deshawn Stephenson and meeno??? Foh

Jay didn't beat Prodigy?

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You splitting hairs but you know what. I'll give him a win over prodigy. Congradulatioñs to Jay Z for exposing a 9 year old boy in a Michael Jackson costume. Major props to jay z crushing a midget who was battling sickle cell. Like who the fuck is supposed to be scared of a nigga who won against prodigy. P is my goat but he not my fantasy husband like Jay Z is to y'all Jigga cunts. P got his ass whooped by outlaws, Keith Murray, Mac mall, Saigon, bars n hooks, lake, illa gee. Shit they got 3rd graders that can whoop p ass. Prodigy is Jay z marquee win?
 

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