Ice Cube appreciation Thread

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Well, I understand that most of you don't know how film works, but I'm in Independent Film so let me break down how it works...

When a producer does a movie, they are assuming 99% of the risk..it's not like music where the producer takes a back seat to the rapper. The reason why is simple, at the end of the day, the actor is paid, WAY before the movie even begins shooting (unless arrangements have been made where they get paid under circumstances like deferment..like hey we're doing this movie for 10k, but if it grosses over 300k, I'll pay you 15k)...

The actor assumes no risk, if the movie doesn't get made, or if it gets produced halfway...or if it gets produced and doesn't find distribution (the hardest part of indy films)..the actor still gets their money, even if the producer loses EVERYTHING. There are no royalities in film for the most part (I mean it is RARE, and usually happens when an actor cannot be paid up front due to budget, or cannot be paid a full amount).

Tucker got paid what he signed up for, you don't go back and re-pay someone because you made more money..that's like if you sign up on twitter, and then use it to sell and market a product, you don't go back to the owners of twitter and say...hey, I know you didn't charge me for your services, but I made 500k, so here's 50k..thanks :)

Plus, you need to realize that what a film grosses, does NOT go to Cube's pocket..he was the producer, not the investor..so therefore the money goes to Distributor first ..then Investor..then Producer, and Cube produced it with Quik..so it goes 50/25/25...meaning 50% of the money to Distributor (New Line I think)...25% to Investors (or whatever they agree'd on, could've been more...) and the rest to Cube/Quik...(and anyone who they might've had working on deferrment)..

Now after they built a brand, and Friday and Cubevision become household names, that's when you offer your returning actors more money..or they ask for more money and you replace them, your choice..but Cube would've paid Tucker more, he knew Smokie's impact on the film, and had to re-write the second movie to get him out of it...
 
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mindright;663114 said:
The way I see it, once Friday became a big hit, Cube should've broke him off with a lil bit more dough...Once the success took off, Cube knew a sequel was possible. Should've broke Tucker off...

Mike Epps sucked in the friday sequels compared to Tucker's performance.. I mean, lets be honest here and stop faking... Chris Tucker made Friday..Cube was the star, but he ended up playing second fiddle to Tucker.. Why mess up a successful formula? I bet you he paid Mike Epps more than he paid Tucker...bet that.

Cosign. Mike Epps is not funnier than Chris Tucker is no shape or form. And Tucker made Friday what it was. If it is true he only got paid 5 k that's crazy. Friday WAS not a low budget movie as someone else said. John Singleton is not a Low budget director, the supporting actors like Nia Long , Pops, Regina King, etc where all well known black actors, and the set and visuals were way better than the sequels. Friday 2 and 3 were kinda weak in comparison to the first one. Mike Epps was ok but the shit just looked subpar after watching the original.
 
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sonofliberty;668451 said:
Cosign. Mike Epps is not funnier than Chris Tucker is no shape or form. And Tucker made Friday what it was. If it is true he only got paid 5 k that's crazy. Friday WAS not a low budget movie as someone else said. John Singleton is not a Low budget director, the supporting actors like Nia Long , Pops, Regina King, etc where all well known black actors, and the set and visuals were way better than the sequels. Friday 2 and 3 were kinda weak in comparison to the first one. Mike Epps was ok but the shit just looked subpar after watching the original.

*wrong director
 
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Chitown Bully;663057 said:
Chris Tucker wasnt a big name before Friday so why would Ice Cube pay him a lot of money

cosign this one right here,so why should chris tucker get millions when he just started out
 
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Ice Cube's new album 'I Am The West' hits stores July 13.

As one of the pioneers of West Coast hip hop and a real living hip hop legend, Ice Cube could just kick back and rest on his laurels, but he's still just as hungry as ever.

During his interview on 106 & Park he talked about what still motivates him.

"I got a hunger for the music. I got a passion for doing films. I love to create, that's what I get off on," he said

He stressed that he still feels like he has something to prove when he steps in the booth.

"Anytime I get on the mic I got something to prove. You better have something to prove, or you need to get out the game."

Longevity in the business is hard to maintain, Cube said for artists like himself and Dr Dre it's all about quality over quantity.

When asked about younger artists in the business he respects and admires he mentioned 50 Cent.

"Everybody gotta like how 50 doing it, Kanye (West), these dudes are dope".

Ice Cube's new album 'I Am The West' hits stores July 13.
 
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Ice Cube's new album 'I Am The West' hits stores July 13.

[video=youtube;IPt_RCh3iv0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPt_RCh3iv0[/video]
 
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with the Death of Biggie and Pac and Cube turning 40 and now doing family comedy on TBS (very funny) the art of story telling is on life support!!

Flash Back to 1993 when Cube used to be GANGSTA and he wrote this song about a drug kigpin who moves to Minnesota and his collapse!! 90% of modern rappers arent talented enough to execute something so detailed! to make it ryhme do it on beat and a complete story with intro, description, climax and then a wrap up.. told like a movie! I miss Lyricism and story telling!!

ON YOUTUBE



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The Lyrics

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/icecube/whatcanido.html

Today, how you like me now, I'm in the mix?

It's 1986 and I got the fix with the chicken and a quota

Got the baking soda, let the water boil, workers all loyal

Dropped out the twelveth

Cuz my wealth is shorter than a midget on his knees

Now I slang keys

Infest my hood with crack, cuz I'm the mack

Take a nation of millions to hold me back

Too big for my britches, and I got bitches

Now I'm hittin' switches, niggas want my riches

Used to get 18 when my G was alive, now a key is 13-5

'89s the number, another summer

Police ain't get no dumber

Streets dried up, used to think it would last

But being a king-pin is a thing of the past

They tried to blast me for selling a boulder

Now I got my ass in Minnesota

Got my own crew, it's on brand new

Damn, what can I do?

Today...

[Verse Two:]

Already done stack me half a mill ticket

Bought a house next to Prince, so now I can kick it

Now I got ends, wavin' to my friends, rollin' in my Benz

Goin' to see the Twins, play at the dome

Police are tappin' my mobile phone

I'm almost home

Gettin' excited, indited, spent a grip and a year tryin' to fight it

Lawyer got paid, plea, no contest

And everything I own got repossessed

Now take a look at the dust

And I'm happy cuz I only got 36 months

Never picked up a book

But my arms are 16 inches, niggas look

Can't wait for '92 so I can get with my crew

And see, what can I do?

Today...

[Verse Three:]

Phucked up in the pen, now it's ninety-fo

Back in LA, and I'm bailin' in the dough

Everybody, now I gotta start from scratch

So where to work at, and niggas smirk at

Me say ain't nuttin' poppin from here to the LB

What you tell me?

No it ain't crack, and everybody's jackin' for a coupe

Cuz, they sent in the troops

Even tho I got muscle, that ain't my hustle

Takin' niggas sh*t in a tussle

No skills to pay the bills

Takin' 'bout education to battle inflashion

No college degree, just a dumb ass G

(Yeah you Nigga, who me?)

I got a baby on the way, damn it's a mess

Have you ever been convicted of a felony? Yes

Took some advice from my Uncle Fester

All dressed up in polyester

Welcome to McDonalds may I please help you?

sh*t, what can I do?

Today...

[Outro:]

The white man has broke every law known to man to establish AmeriKKKa.

But he'll put you in the state penitentary, he'll put you in the federal

penitentary for breaking these same laws. Now we gonna look and see if

this muthaphucker is guilty for the laws he'll put you in jail for :

Drug using, drug selling, armed robbery, strong armed robbery, grand

larceny, rape, racketering, conspiracy to commit murder, extortion,

aggravated assault, mayhem, sodomy of the black man, trespassing,

embezzelment, purgery, kidnapping, smuggling, grand theft, brandishing

a firearm, carrying a conceled weapon, breaking and entering, and

premeditated cold-blooded murder.

Guilty on every charge.
 
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According to Amazon.com, Ice Cube's first album in two years, I Am The West will no longer be a summer release. The N.W.A. alum's latest solo offering has appeared to have moved to September 24. The release is coming courtesy of Cube's own Lench Mob Records, also home to his Westside Connection partner, WC.

I Am The West, according to Cube, will contain production from Dr. Dre. The rapper said he had also sorted through tracks by fellow west coast veterans Sir Jinx, E-A-Ski and DJ Quik. A first single and video, "I Rep That West" released in March, featuring new Suave House artist Jigg.
 
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Yeah, Cube was one of the GOATs but I think he's fucking up his legacy by doing that wack ass new show.

*Moves thread to Reason*
 
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yeah cube is nice with the pen
he lost me when he started talking the don mega shit but
i was feeling the gansta rap made me do it shit
 
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Cube is a certified BEAST and in the early 90's had rap on LOCK. But people need to stop looking at the fact that he's making his movie and show money and let that taint his legacy. The nigga has earned the right to do family shows and come back every now and then and drop some thought provoking shit and if you was in his position, you would do the same shit!!!!
 
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