Ice Cube appreciation Thread

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gee757;1341723 said:
smh thatz y LIL SUGE beat up drez white son...
GEE what album is that??

a.mann;1341811 said:
Cube nor Snoop needs Dre and his team.

Only the name and regonation it'll bring from marketing it as some kind of mini reunion

I agree 100%

I think Ice Cube just wanted Dr Dre to finish the songs they had started working on so he could put them on his album.
As an independant artist its always good to have as many Big names artists as possible associated with your project for sales purposes.
 
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usmarin3;1341830 said:
Good, Dre needs to stay focus on Detox. I'm sick of him delaying his albums for other artists (50,Jay,Game,Busta,etc), there are other producers they can go run to.

seriously,

how many excuses and reasons ya'll gon give this nigga???

He the suppose GOAT working with a battalion a co-producers, yet has nothing to show for but the same stale string and piano loop

Again niggas do not need Dre only his name and the regonation it'll bring from marketing. So heads that are blind will cop based on that

which comes from the nostalgic longing for his glory years of the early 90s
 
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choppa_style;1341939 said:
The album really isn't that good....and since when is Wikipedia a reliable source for sales??

Wikipedia usually provide the links to the RIAA website in its references links, as it did with the sales mentioned in the article

Heres the RIAA link I got from Wikipedia in case you needed confirmation:
[URL]http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?resultpage=1&table=SEARCH_RESULTS&action=&title=&artist=Ice%20Cube&format=&debutLP=&category=&sex=&releaseDate=&requestNo=&type=&level=&label=&company=&certificationDate=&awardDescription=&catalogNo=&aSex=&rec_id=&charField=&gold=&platinum=&multiPlat=&level2=&certDate=&album=&id=&after=&before=&startMonth=1&endMonth=1&startYear=1958&endYear=2007&sort=Artist&perPage=25[/URL]

Weazel;1341934 said:
Hrap is playing games again..

Fuck your soul bitch, I hope my name tastes like piss in your raggedy mouth.

I posted a video/article that came out today explaining why Dre wont be on Ice Cubes album that drops Tuesday.

Maybe you are one of those ignorant little bitches that cant comprehend something as simple as a video and an article...dumb bitch.
 
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sociopath;1341886 said:
lol @ him needing so much focus to complete one album when Kanye can write and produce his own album in 1/10th the time it takes Dre. Dre is a lazy nigga, that's why he ain't releasing albums like that.

Peoples expectations of Kanyes and Dre's work is completely different, people expect Dre to bring something new to hiphop sonically and break new genre changing artists. When you've made arguably the greatest album ever in The Chronic, the standards are a bit different.
 
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after bumping this cube album since lunch he should've waited for Dre still a nice album but a bit of a disappontment
 
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usmarin3;1342035 said:
Peoples expectations of Kanyes and Dre's work is completely different, people expect Dre to bring something new to hiphop sonically and break new genre changing artists. When you've made arguably the greatest album ever in The Chronic, the standards are a bit different.

Classic album for sure

but please

G-Funk is and never was the pinnacle repersentive of what hip hop music is all about.

if anything it showed how fast things can be easily replicated and fad to the back

which is why it never lasted over 4 years.

I think its fair to say G-Funk was hip hop's equate of disco( alot classic disco songs out there but sounds dated compare to classic funk and soul)

G-Funk like Disco was something that was fun and easy to do but never was design to stand the test of time.

Unlike Boom Bap which is hip hop's equate of Funk Music......
 
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usmarin3;1342035 said:
Peoples expectations of Kanyes and Dre's work is completely different, people expect Dre to bring something new to hiphop sonically and break new genre changing artists. When you've made arguably the greatest album ever in The Chronic, the standards are a bit different.

LMBAO, serious??

The Chronic isnt even in the top 50 of greatest albums ever, its not even in the top-ten greatest rap-albums ever.
When was the last time Dre brought something new "sonically" to the rap game??? Who was the last "genre-changing" artist he dropped??

This dude aint dropped an album in ten years and the one before that was nearly 20 years ago..a hot album every 10 year average is lame and Dre is already 46 yrs old...

Only diehard fans are waiting for Detox, the rest of us have moved on.

a.mann;1342165 said:
Classic album for sure

but please

G-Funk is and never was the pinnacle repersentive of what hip hop music is all about.

if anything it showed how fast things can be easily replicated and fad to the back

which is why it never lasted over 4 years.

I think its fair to say G-Funk was hip hop's equate of disco( alot classic disco songs out there but sounds dated compare to classic funk and soul)

G-Funk like Disco was something that was fun and easy to do but never was design to stand the test of time.

Unlike Boom Bap which is hip hop's equate of Funk Music......

Not only was Dre not the inventor or creator of "G-Funk" but most people forget G-Funk was mainly just regurgitated Parliament & Funkadelic over hiphop[ beats.....nothing new or groundbreaking.
 
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hrap-120;1341876 said:
GEE what album is that??

2gangsta4radio...

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hrap-120;1342207 said:
Not only was Dre not the inventor or creator of "G-Funk" but most people forget G-Funk was mainly just regurgitated Parliament & Funkadelic over hiphop[ beats.....nothing new or groundbreaking.

Eric Sermon and Cold 187 for sure.

Dre only added deeper baselines to what they already had in progress.

And i'll say the Chroinc is Top 15.

The shit still bangs today but sounds stale and dated compared to RZA's and Premo illest tracks back than

(which you can STILL find something new in them no matter how many times you've heard)
 
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a.mann;1342165 said:
Classic album for sure

but please

G-Funk is and never was the pinnacle repersentive of what hip hop music is all about.

if anything it showed how fast things can be easily replicated and fad to the back

which is why it never lasted over 4 years.

I think its fair to say G-Funk was hip hop's equate of disco( alot classic disco songs out there but sounds dated compare to classic funk and soul)

G-Funk like Disco was something that was fun and easy to do but never was design to stand the test of time.

Unlike Boom Bap which is hip hop's equate of Funk Music......

Crunk music is more the equivallent to disco, some great albums came out of that GFunk era (Comptons Most wanted, The Chronic, Doggystyle,Regulate G Funk Era, No one can do it better,etc). Sounds to me like you have an eastcoast bias, the boom bap sound was pretty fucking easy to replicate too, there was nothing complex about the shit. The Boom bap era didn't even last that long either, shit died out when Puff and the Hitmen came on the scene, it became really niche and underground from there.
 
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hrap-120;1342207 said:
LMBAO, serious??

The Chronic isnt even in the top 50 of greatest albums ever, its not even in the top-ten greatest rap-albums ever.
When was the last time Dre brought something new "sonically" to the rap game??? Who was the last "genre-changing" artist he dropped??

This dude aint dropped an album in ten years and the one before that was nearly 20 years ago..a hot album every 10 year average is lame and Dre is already 46 yrs old...

Only diehard fans are waiting for Detox, the rest of us have moved on.

Not only was Dre not the inventor or creator of "G-Funk" but most people forget G-Funk was mainly just regurgitated Parliament & Funkadelic over hiphop[ beats.....nothing new or groundbreaking.

LOL at the Chronic not being top 10, Puffy and Biggie themselves said they modelled Ready to Die after the Chronic. I remembered when the Chronic dropped and i live down South, that album was all over the streets, i bet you can't name 5 albums that had that type of effect. The Chronic was coastless, it was raceless, etc, i don't care what your biases were, damn near everyone was playing that shit. It put Snoop,Daz and Kurrupt, Lady of Rage,etc all on the map, and established one of the greatest dynasty in rap.

Illmatic didn't do that, Reasonable Doubt didn't do that, Paid in full didn't do that, Southern Playalistic didn't do that,etc. You would have to live through that era to remember how big that album was, it brought the world into a day and the life of west coast rap.
 
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Cube is a real dude, I always like hearing interviews with him.....dudes like him show that it's aight to grow up and still do the things you love to do.....i need to cop those 2 recent albums he put out
 
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a.mann;1342165 said:
Classic album for sure

but please

G-Funk is and never was the pinnacle repersentive of what hip hop music is all about.

if anything it showed how fast things can be easily replicated and fad to the back

which is why it never lasted over 4 years.

I think its fair to say G-Funk was hip hop's equate of disco( alot classic disco songs out there but sounds dated compare to classic funk and soul)

G-Funk like Disco was something that was fun and easy to do but never was design to stand the test of time.

Unlike Boom Bap which is hip hop's equate of Funk Music......

Damn, this needs to be in the hip hop encyclopedia.
 
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sociopath;1342351 said:
^Popularity doesn't make an album better than another. If that's the case GRODT was better than every Dre album, and ever Jay album.

impact aka popularity + artistic masterpiece = goat album to me, it's the definition of a classic. Which is more than i can say about any Premo produce album or any boom bap album
 
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usmarin3;1342388 said:
impact aka popularity + artistic masterpiece = goat album to me, it's the definition of a classic. Which is more than i can say about any Premo produce album or any boom bap album

so a person who dont write they own rimez can drop klassikz now????
 
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usmarin3;1342331 said:
LOL at the Chronic not being top 10, Puffy and Biggie themselves said they modelled Ready to Die after the Chronic. I remembered when the Chronic dropped and i live down South, that album was all over the streets, i bet you can't name 5 albums that had that type of effect. The Chronic was coastless, it was raceless, etc, i don't care what your biases were, damn near everyone was playing that shit. It put Snoop,Daz and Kurrupt, Lady of Rage,etc all on the map, and established one of the greatest dynasty in rap.

Illmatic didn't do that, Reasonable Doubt didn't do that, Paid in full didn't do that, Southern Playalistic didn't do that,etc. You would have to live through that era to remember how big that album was, it brought the world into a day and the life of west coast rap.

Everything you said about the effect of the Chronic is true. But as one who "lived" in that era (yes old head)

I have a better understanding of the circumstances surrounding why that album was so anticipated and brought by all.

The big beef between Dre leaving NWA and his respond to Eazy.

Same as to why everybody was waiting on 50 to drop. The circumstance of his and Ja's beef. Which in return gave the album greater "impact"

Not so much because the albums music value was so far on another level.
 
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usmarin3;1342388 said:
impact aka popularity + artistic masterpiece = goat album to me, it's the definition of a classic. Which is more than i can say about any Premo produce album or any boom bap album

I feel Illmatic is the greater album than the Chronic because even til this day it's being study and analyst for it's lyrical and production value (the true testament of a classic)

NOT it's temporary impact and influence on the musical landscape
 
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