"I Was Scared Of Prodigy" Diddy Talks Mobb Deep Bringing Guns to My Studio

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No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...
 
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gee757;c-10099953 said:
No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...


^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

Edit.

Comparing Biggie to Hitler is absurd.

LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.
 
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5 Grand;c-10099987 said:
gee757;c-10099953 said:
No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...


^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

Edit.

Comparing Biggie to Hitler is absurd.

LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.


Plz.,.....2pac made perfect sense & the deathrow east strategy was going to work & getting Kat's like Wu Tang on board would've been eazy Especially after makaveli gave meth rza chain back.......big was like Hitler claiming king & anybody not following suit was getting blked balled by puff & suge& 2pac & deathrow east was gonna crush that weak regime bad boy & take over the east.....the mobb would've been down like Nas eventually u hear how they was speaking days after pac got killed on hot97 n 96...


 
gee757;c-10100169 said:
5 Grand;c-10099987 said:
gee757;c-10099953 said:
No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...


^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

Edit.

Comparing Biggie to Hitler is absurd.

LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.


Plz.,.....2pac made perfect sense & the deathrow east strategy was going to work & getting Kat's like Wu Tang on board would've been eazy Especially after makaveli gave meth rza chain back.......big was like Hitler claiming king & anybody not following suit was getting blked balled by puff & suge& 2pac & deathrow east was gonna crush that weak regime bad boy & take over the east.....the mobb would've been down like Nas eventually u hear how they was speaking days after pac got killed on hot97 n 96...


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5 Grand;c-10099987 said:
gee757;c-10099953 said:
No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...


^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

Edit.

Comparing Biggie to Hitler is absurd.

LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.


What strategy did you want to hear? Most of the interview was actually about the beef itself and where it came from. Past that, he did talking about recruiting talent from the East and building up the brand. Everything he said made sense.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-10100199 said:
5 Grand;c-10099987 said:
gee757;c-10099953 said:
No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...


^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

Edit.

Comparing Biggie to Hitler is absurd.

LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.


What strategy did you want to hear? Most of the interview was actually about the beef itself and where it came from. Past that, he did talking about recruiting talent from the East and building up the brand. Everything he said made sense.


It's debatable if everything he made sense (i.e. comparing Biggie to Hitler) but he didn't accomplish anything he said he was going to do. He was all talk and zero results.

If we're making comparisons, 2Pac was like Malcolm X while Jay-Z and Puff Daddy were like Martin Luther King and Elijah Muhammad. Malcolm X was all talk but in the end he didn't really do anything besides give speeches. Martin Luther King and Elijah Muhammed yielded tangible results that you could see with the naked eye.

Martin Luther King led the Montgomery bus boycott and was the most visible and vocal of the civil rights movement and in addition to being the keynote speaker at the March on Washington, he worked with President Lyndon B Johnson to pass the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Elijah Muhammad was the leader of the Nation Of Islam and oversaw the growth of the NOI from 1934-1975. At the time of his death there were over 75 NOI temples in every major city in America. Each one of those temples was a cell that supported schools, bakeries and a newspaper.

Malcolm X talked a good game, but he didn't produce any tangible results. Thats how I feel about 2Pac, he talked a good game, but he didn't have a plan of action to make his ideas manifest. Getting rappers together to squash the East/West beef was a great idea, but Pac was all ideas and zero execution. If anything 2Pac set an example of how NOT to be a leader. If you claim to be a general you can't spit at cameras and jump people in a casino... especially when you're out on bail.
 
lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

And the Biggie/Hitler comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what Hitler did with the Jews in Germany.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-10100247 said:
lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

And the Biggie/Hitler comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what Hitler did with the Jews in Germany.

Martin Luther King died too.

Abraham Lincoln died.

Jesus died.

You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills
 
5 Grand;c-10100295 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10100247 said:
lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

And the Biggie/Hitler comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what Hitler did with the Jews in Germany.

Martin Luther King died too.

Abraham Lincoln died.

Jesus died.

You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-10100324 said:
5 Grand;c-10100295 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10100247 said:
lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

And the Biggie/Hitler comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what Hitler did with the Jews in Germany.

Martin Luther King died too.

Abraham Lincoln died.

Jesus died.

You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.

But that's not what hapenned.
 
5 Grand;c-10100243 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10100199 said:
5 Grand;c-10099987 said:
gee757;c-10099953 said:
No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...


^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

Edit.

Comparing Biggie to Hitler is absurd.

LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.


What strategy did you want to hear? Most of the interview was actually about the beef itself and where it came from. Past that, he did talking about recruiting talent from the East and building up the brand. Everything he said made sense.


It's debatable if everything he made sense (i.e. comparing Biggie to Hitler) but he didn't accomplish anything he said he was going to do. He was all talk and zero results.

If we're making comparisons, 2Pac was like Malcolm X while Jay-Z and Puff Daddy were like Martin Luther King and Elijah Muhammad. Malcolm X was all talk but in the end he didn't really do anything besides give speeches. Martin Luther King and Elijah Muhammed yielded tangible results that you could see with the naked eye.

Martin Luther King led the Montgomery bus boycott and was the most visible and vocal of the civil rights movement and in addition to being the keynote speaker at the March on Washington, he worked with President Lyndon B Johnson to pass the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Elijah Muhammad was the leader of the Nation Of Islam and oversaw the growth of the NOI from 1934-1975. At the time of his death there were over 75 NOI temples in every major city in America. Each one of those temples was a cell that supported schools, bakeries and a newspaper.

Malcolm X talked a good game, but he didn't produce any tangible results. Thats how I feel about 2Pac, he talked a good game, but he didn't have a plan of action to make his ideas manifest. Getting rappers together to squash the East/West beef was a great idea, but Pac was all ideas and zero execution. If anything 2Pac set an example of how NOT to be a leader. If you claim to be a general you can't spit at cameras and jump people in a casino... especially when you're out on bail.



^ that video makes u look foolish........2pac was on his way to b the king of NY n 96 wit deathrow east wit suge & Eric b standing behind him 9/4/96 n ny & he explained that.... ..2pac already had eastcoast ny ogs like big daddy Kane, melle mel & Scorpio dissing biggie repping 1nation/deathrow east......2pac gave rza chain back2 method man so it would be peace between deathrow & Wu Tang & the deathrow east shit was going to follow.....I understand u hate the row & pac but n 96 deathrow was murdering bad boy so bad puffy was calling 1 of the deathrow east ogs n ny crying asking unk y r y'all(deathrow east) embarrassing us(bad boy) cuz they r from ny & unk hung the phone up on puff word 2 Gene deal...
 
5 Grand;c-10100418 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10100324 said:
5 Grand;c-10100295 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10100247 said:
lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

And the Biggie/Hitler comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what Hitler did with the Jews in Germany.

Martin Luther King died too.

Abraham Lincoln died.

Jesus died.

You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.

But that's not what hapenned.

What exactly is your point? You're criticizing Pac as if he was an ineffectual person and ignoring the fact that it was his death not his lack of drive or effectiveness that prevented him from accomplishing his goals.
 
CashmoneyDux;c-10100666 said:
Idk why yall argue with 5grand that nigga crazy

5 Grand;c-10100295 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10100247 said:
lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

And the Biggie/Hitler comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what Hitler did with the Jews in Germany.

Martin Luther King died too.

Abraham Lincoln died.

Jesus died.

You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

lmao.gif


 
The Lonious Monk;c-10101043 said:
5 Grand;c-10100418 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10100324 said:
5 Grand;c-10100295 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10100247 said:
lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

And the Biggie/Hitler comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what Hitler did with the Jews in Germany.

Martin Luther King died too.

Abraham Lincoln died.

Jesus died.

You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.

But that's not what hapenned.

What exactly is your point? You're criticizing Pac as if he was an ineffectual person and ignoring the fact that it was his death not his lack of drive or effectiveness that prevented him from accomplishing his goals.

My point is that @gee757 posted a link of 2Pac comparing Biggie to Hitler. That is a ridiculous comparison and further explains how 2Pac was demented and out of touch with reality.

All the Pac stans say the exact same thing in every thread that mentions him, they say, "Pac was going to do this" or "Pac was going to do that" or "If Pac did what he said he was going to do then he would have made a bigger impact than God" or "If only Pac did this instead of that" or "Pac would have done this and that" and my personal favorite, "If Pac started Death Row East with Eric B they would have been like Bad Boy, No Limit and Def Jam combined".

Its the same hypotheticals in every thread, "If this had happened then this and that would have happened".

The reality is that he was out on bail and jumped Orlando Anderson in the casino. If he didn't get shot and killed he would have gone to prison for violating the terms of his bail. Thats what would have happened.
 
The best change Pac could bring about will be as the spark to the person that uses his positive message to inspire him to help effective positive change in not only the community, but the world, as a whole.

 

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