I see that the general consensus here is that T.I. > Luda, but could T.I ever hold his own like...

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Y'all missing the point. Point is, T.I wouldn't have been able to have risen to the occasion to a song like Made You Look, specially with the east coast sound and presence so prominent on the track, Luda was able to step up to the occasion, T.I's style and capabilities would impede him from being able to perform at that kind of arena, he just ain't built like that as an mc.
 
international;5658572 said:
Y'all missing the point. Point is, T.I wouldn't have been able to have risen to the occasion to a song like Made You Look, specially with the east coast sound and presence so prominent on the track, Luda was able to step up to the occasion, T.I's style and capabilities would impede him from being able to perform at that kind of arena, he just ain't built like that as an mc.

Why not tho? T.I. torched the track "Swagger Like Us" and although it's a different type of song, if he held his own with Wayne (pre-skateboard), Kanye, and Hov, I don't see why he couldn't have done the same thing on "Made You Look".

 
lets not forget he recently held his own with 3 stacks, and he constantly puts out decent albums. no mercy is his worst and even it got a few bangers. luda jus always been too damn jokey to me. I try to listen to his albums and give him a chance. he got some good cuts like mouths to feed and last of a dying breed. but that's about it to me.
 
thatni99ajahmal;5658503 said:
idoitforhiphop10;5658472 said:
Luda=Better MCT.I.=Better Artist

That all depends on if you like Luda cartoon rap lyrics..

I prefer real life shit so T.I. edges him out in that too..

Luda stay with the corny punchlines SMH, and I'm talking Drake, Nick Minaj, Papoose corny.
 
ROZAYTABERNACLE;5658123 said:
mike06;5658089 said:
ROZAYTABERNACLE;5658002 said:
Maybe when it comes to albums and overall songs. but I've never seen anyone say TI was a better rapper than Luda. Look at their verses on Stomp for an example.

Luda laid his verse after hearing TI's....unfair advantage

So? Luda's delivery is what makes his verse better.

Eminem laid his verse before Jay-Z did on Renegades, yet a large amount of people say Em had the better verse.

Em verse was recycled altogether and Hov still held his own on a song where they werent even competing against each other (Ala Jay n Big on BK's finest)....luda heard TI's verse and constructed his precisely and cleverly to go at TI....now if it was the other way around do you really think TI would've been cool with his verse or would've changed it up a bit after hearing his rival subliminaly diss him?

 
Agrv2385;5658867 said:
lets not forget he recently held his own with 3 stacks, and he constantly puts out decent albums. no mercy is his worst and even it got a few bangers. luda jus always been too damn jokey to me. I try to listen to his albums and give him a chance. he got some good cuts like mouths to feed and last of a dying breed. but that's about it to me.

Yeah Luda focuses more on punchlines and metaphors while TI just spits his life on paper and tells better stories
 
Luda has a higher ceiling but he also has a lower floor. TI is good at what he does and misses when he tries to step out that box
 
Luda is a better MC, TIP makes better albums. I looked through this topic and all see are people talking about Luda being wack today and him being a "comedic" rapper despite the abundance of real shit he made.

I guess it helps the argument when you don't have to actually deal with the lyrics, where TI isn't a slouch at all, but if your argument FOR TIP is to say Luda is wack today (which people also say about Tip today as well, but I guess we changing our opinions to help our case), or that Luda is "comedic" as a diversion from his actual ability to rap...which is greater than Tip's then what you are doing really is grasping at straws.

Luda switched up his style and people didn't feel it...that's cool, same shit happened to Busta, and oddly enough it happened to TI too...or are niggas really banging No Mercy secretly? Didn't think so.

This is one of those things that turn into a popularity contest and totally not on topic. Luda got bars and he absolutely murdered Tip on 'Stomp'...I know..."But but Jono Luda heard Tip's verse first!!!" Stop it 5, Tip was sending shots at Luda long before 'Stomp' was recorded. Tip got at least a half dozen subliminal shots at Luda before 'Stomp' and shut his motherfuckin mouth after it....sounds like a point was proven to me.
 
MikeydaGawd;5659729 said:
whats the point of being a really good MC if you can't even make good albums.

Exactly why I stopped buying his albums. Same for Jadakiss
 
MikeydaGawd;5659729 said:
whats the point of being a really good MC if you can't even make good albums.

I don't know.....but it happens a lot though. Having the talent and using it effectively are two different things really.
 
international;5658859 said:
Swagger Like Us? lmaoo...smh@ comparing that shyt to the grittiness of 'made you look' and everything else I said in that post.

I'm not comparing the songs, I'm comparing the level of artist. You assumed that T.I. wouldn't have been able to hold his own because Kiss and Nas are on a track. He did that with Hov, Yeezy, and Wayne. Say what you want about the song, but T.I.'s verse was nice as shit.

 
ive always thought luda was a better rapper, but tip also in my top 5, i think people slight luda cuz he dont claim to be a street nigga and to some people its just cool to relate to the cool street nigga even if the other is just being himself, people always talm bout luda had cartoon lyrics and shit when he also gave us songs like cold outside and child of the night, and i think all ludas albums except theater of the mind are decent to good, tip may have a couple better albums and be a bit more consistent, but he has a dud or 2 as well as luda, bar for bar luda got tip imo, "cartoon lyrics" or not
 
imo ATL crown is shared by jeezy and gucci. but luda is mad lyrical when he wants to but when he on the ratchet comedian bullshit is so lame.
 

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