I See More Evidence That Makes Me Question Gods Existence

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Oceanic ;5270762 said:
jayy2009;5270539 said:
If you want me to give you concrete evidence that God exist, I'm just going to give you scriptures from the Bible.

The Bible can't be used as concrete evidence of anything other than the fact that it was written and has an author(s).

Which is why I said it is a matter of faith. Read the Bible you'll understand.
 
b@squ1@t redux;5260847 said:
i never understood that -assuming there is a god-which i believe there is...what's so hard about the concept that god is the creator/watcher--not the decider

I could accept that concept as opposed to the one we've been fed. You hear about miracles, medical or whatever. This was a time when we needed a miracle.

 
DROSODAMFUNNY;5260923 said:
SUFFERING AND SORROW THAT WE FACE TODAY IS NOT THE WORK OF AN UNJUST GOD; IT'S THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN. WE SUFFER BECAUSE WE ARE SINNERS. ROMANS 6:23 SAYS, "FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH; BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD." WE SUFFER AND DIE BECAUSE OF SIN.

The bible says man was created in the image of God. So where the does the sin come in at.

 
matt-;5265647 said:
I'm not sure where this thread has ended up so i'm still just addressing the OP. i still don't get how you can believe in God and then turn around and question his existence based on some sort of tragedy? As if the very beginning of the bible didn't start of in a tragedy with adam and eve. and then with cain and abel and then fast forward to, oh how about 2 Chronicles which pretty clearly states the consequences of a society which ignores and shuns God and thinks they are the center of the universe. The Bible clearly defines the punishment of ignoring God and choosing evil. And if that wasn't enough evil in the world, how about Herod who ordered the murder of every newborn under 2 years old just to try and kill jesus? Like, are you cool with all of that? and this school shooting just pushed you to the other side? Hopefully not because i'd hate for anyone to be that fucking stupid

I questioned God just like millions of others did when they heard this terrible news. I dont subscribe to any religion, but I'm constantly seeking the truth, or to be enlightened spiritually. I started this thread so that anyone from any religion could offer some insight as to why these tragedies occur.
 
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DROSODAMFUNNY;5260923 said:
SUFFERING AND SORROW THAT WE FACE TODAY IS NOT THE WORK OF AN UNJUST GOD; IT'S THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN. WE SUFFER BECAUSE WE ARE SINNERS. ROMANS 6:23 SAYS, "FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH; BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD." WE SUFFER AND DIE BECAUSE OF SIN.

The bible says man was created in the image of God. So where the does the sin come in at.

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Sin came in to man's life in Genesis chapter 3. God told Adam and Eve told them that they could eat from any tree in the Garden of Eden except from the tree of in the midst of te garden. In the previous chapter Adam had a direct relationship with God. He was walking and talking with God in person. All he knew was God's word. The serpent fooled Eve and Adam into eating from the tree which God had already told them not to eat from. They disobeyed God. This is when sin enter the world because immediately they covered themselves up. Prior to that they did not notice tht they were naked. They had become ashamed. When God returned to see what they had done, they were cast out of the Garden of Eden.
 
plocc;5277450 said:
I started this thread so that anyone from any religion could offer some insight as to why these tragedies occur.

I could offer insight but it's from a Buddhist standpoint.

 
jayy2009;5279865 said:
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DROSODAMFUNNY;5260923 said:
SUFFERING AND SORROW THAT WE FACE TODAY IS NOT THE WORK OF AN UNJUST GOD; IT'S THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN. WE SUFFER BECAUSE WE ARE SINNERS. ROMANS 6:23 SAYS, "FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH; BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD." WE SUFFER AND DIE BECAUSE OF SIN.

The bible says man was created in the image of God. So where the does the sin come in at.

Sin came in to man's life in Genesis chapter 3. God told Adam and Eve told them that they could eat from any tree in the Garden of Eden except from the tree of in the midst of te garden. In the previous chapter Adam had a direct relationship with God. He was walking and talking with God in person. All he knew was God's word. The serpent fooled Eve and Adam into eating from the tree which God had already told them not to eat from. They disobeyed God. This is when sin enter the world because immediately they covered themselves up. Prior to that they did not notice tht they were naked. They had become ashamed. When God returned to see what they had done, they were cast out of the Garden of Eden.[/quote]

Sounds very fairytalish to me. Whats the point in telling them not to do anything when he knew what they were gonna do. He shouldve told them to watch out for the serpent. Why put a serpent in the garden anyway. Why create lucifer, an angel that turned evil? If an angel can become corrupt what does that say about?
 
Says we were not the first to use this "free will" concept. Though maybe not in the cannon of the Christian Bible, but in order to "rebel" it had to be someone's idea, as said by an "angel" fallen or not the idea came before he/it fell from "grace". I am no expert on any one, place or thing. Just another paradigm.
 

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