I busted a nut after watching this video. Real talk.

[Funky Dr]

I thought it was gonna be a new twerk team video...

 

[Max.]

lol............

 

[BOSS KTULU]

Unless we are currently in a state of nothingness, how does his interpretation hold weight?

we're obviously not in a state of not being or nothingness, so i doubt any part of his thesis depends on something like that

be more specific

which part of his interpretation depends on an absurdity like that?

and why would a guy like you who has said that logic doesn't matter have a problem with that sort of thing?

 

[BEAM]

we're obviously not in a state of not being or nothingness, so i doubt any part of his thesis depends on something like that

be more specific

which part of his interpretation depends on an absurdity like that?

and why would a guy like you who has said that logic doesn't matter have a problem with that sort of thing?

Alright, I was gonna do a psychology experiment, but I'm no longer in the mood.

Essentially, I was asking about the nothingness that we can study that proves his assumption about nothingness having the ability to emit radiation, that can eventually produce matter.

Because he did start his rant with something to the effect of knowledge without application meaning nothing.

He then spent his time building up his explanation of how there is no "nothing", but rather dark matter.

Then he stated a calculation, of a term that currently escapes me, that was ultimately "0", and correlated that to "nothingness" and it's emitting of radiation.

Make sense of it for me, good sir.

Because my understanding would demand his interaction with nothingness to prove his claim, but he already stated nothing to be impossible via dark matter, thus leading me resort to his theory that knowledge without application is irrelevant, and how that correlates to his inability to test his nothing that emits radiation, which he can't do. But for the sake of your argument, I won't do that...

*passes BOSS the mic*

 

[BOSS KTULU]

I'm gonna have to watch it again I guess because your explanation doesn't make any sense. I get the feeling you're completely unfamiliar with this physics business.

 

[fiat_money]

I may have just experienced the emotion called "sympathy". The para-olympics are on, and they're playing "sled-hockey". When I first saw it, I thought, "They should've been killed at birth.". It was accompanied by a feeling of disgust.

Interesting stuff.

 

[BEAM]

I'm gonna have to watch it again I guess because your explanation doesn't make any sense. I get the feeling you're completely unfamiliar with this physics business.

Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. That's his fault, not mine. I only relayed what he said.

He deduced something entirely void of the information he used to set the stage for such a comment.

I'm partly doing this so that you, yourself can explain to me what you hold so dearly to truth.

Not saying it isn't true, but if you can't at least rationalize and explain it to me yourself, I would have been right about you simply co-signing and spouting isht you read and hear, without actually understanding any of it beyond it's supposed correlation with there being no God.

So far, our interactions have been nothing but you trying to tell me what I don't know or aren't familiar with, but that yourself can't even forumalte into words to demonstrate any osrt of understanding.

SMH @ co-signing shit simply because it coincides with your need to disprove a Higher Power.

And no copy and paste shit either. Explain it like the true believer that you are.

 

[BOSS KTULU]

The problem is that your interpretation of the lecture is muddled by your inane ignorance of even the most basic precepts of the science involved. What you're arguing now is that since YOU are unable to understand it, it must be wrong. This is hilarious.

edit: also, I don't take Lawrence Krauss's words on faith or attach them to my eternal fate, so to compare me to a "believer" is silly.

You're the guy who believes a magic infinite wizard created everything. Let's keep that in the frame.

 

[BEAM]

The problem is that your interpretation of the lecture is muddled by your inane ignorance of even the most basic precepts of the science involved. What you're arguing now is that since YOU are unable to understand it, it must be wrong. This is hilarious.

Nope.

I understood the lecture perfectly.

I just caught his blip in correlating the balance factor of "0" to the nothingness, the existence of such he had previously debunked.

The man made a mistake.

I caught it.

Since you co-signed, I wanted you to explain your understanding of the material so that your point wouldn't be dismissed by my capturing ofhis mistake, assuming that I might be wrong to begin with.

But alas, you're avoiding... again.

 

[BOSS KTULU]

I understood the lecture perfectly.

this is the opposite of what you are demonstrating

how is "there is a mathematically possible way for the universe to come about naturally" less sufficient an answer than "magic happened and i believe it because i want to"?

 

[BEAM]

this is the opposite of what you are demonstrating

how is "there is a mathematically possible way for the universe to come about naturally" less sufficient an answer than "magic happened and i believe it because i want to"?

Because his "naturally" was spawned from a supposed nothingness that's capable of emitting radiation, and then matter.

And yet he cancelled the idea of "nothingness" earlier in the lecture.

He got caught up in his attempts to be funny.

 

[BOSS KTULU]

a room full of physics/math/philosophy students isnt going to let a guy do that, and since your credentials seem to be in interior decorating or something, i suspect you are the one mistaken

 

[BEAM]

a room full of physics/math/philosophy students isnt going to let a guy do that, and since your credentials seem to be in interior decorating or something, i suspect you are the one mistaken

lol

Escapism at it's finest.

What, They're just gonna rush the stage to correct his mistake?

Please.

And I study DESIGN, champ.

Essentially, the field that produces the minds that divulge and act upon the very purpose and reason for the mechanics of all of the man-made things that you use every day.

Stop trying to belittle my field of study and start trying to explain his point to me. Maybe then you'll see the humor plunder.

 

[BOSS KTULU]

What, They're just gonna ... correct his mistake?

Yeah, actually. Have you ever taken a philosophy class? If I remember correctly, there's a QnA session at the end of this vid. If not, it's in a separate youtube I can find. They challenge him on a variety of things he says, so if he said something as simple as "This doesn't exist but it's the linch pin of my entire argument" somebody would've noticed.

And I study DESIGN, champ.
Essentially, the field that produces the minds that divulge and act upon the very purpose and reason for the mechanics of all of the man-made things that you use every day.

That's a pretty good sales pitch for your major.

I tell kids my major is why universities exist in the first place.

 

[notme]

We know video games are designed. We design them.

We have no such knowledge of the universe itself, and in fact, all available evidence points to a naturalistic formation of everything.

The excuse that "well it doesnt seem very likely" is impossible for you to make since you don't have available data to extrapolate that probability.

Also, most of the universe appears to be shitty.

Atheism is a position on the existence of deities. It does not prohibit or require ethics. An atheist can believe in an eye for an eye, the Golden Rule, Kantian Categorical Imperatives, cultural norms, utilitarianism, etc. etc. etc.

Basically, the thing preventing us AWFUL atheists from raping and murdering at will is that we're human beings with a basic social decency imbued in us instinctively as primates that survive through group cooperation.

Recite and display such evidence. I'll adjust my sundial and wait

 

[BEAM]

Yeah, actually. Have you ever taken a philosophy class? If I remember correctly, there's a QnA session at the end of this vid. If not, it's in a separate youtube I can find. They challenge him on a variety of things he says, so if he said something as simple as "This doesn't exist but it's the linch pin of my entire argument" somebody would've noticed.

That's a pretty good sales pitch for your major.

I tell kids my major is why universities exist in the first place.

Ah, relying on someone's else's interpretation to do your job for you, huh?

lol

No seriously, I'm actually laughing to myself right now.

You're a joke, dude. You really are.

I've asked you plenty of times to map out his reasoning here for me now so that your belief in his understanding will not only be justified, but more understood; and you've failed on every occasion.

This is where you crack every single time. Whenever you're asked to explain and prove your understanding of what you support, you can't.

You already know your prize, sir.

 

[BOSS KTULU]

Recite and display such evidence. I'll adjust my sundial and wait

heres a collection of it in a friendly and fun form

[video=youtube;7ImvlS8PLIo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo[/video]

 

[BEAM]

Recite and display such evidence. I'll adjust my sundial and wait

Don't even bother.

He can't explain why he agrees with whathe does or even that he understands what he thinks he agrees with.

All he can do is post links and video streams of his heroes.

It's a lost cause.

 

[BOSS KTULU]

your belief in his understanding

no belief, just logic

here, i'll trade you:

 

[BEAM]

no belief, just logic

here, i'll trade you:

Exactly.

"Logic" that you can't even articulate and explain.