Hypothetically speaking.................

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

see this is ur major malfunction (one of them at least)

where did u read that i was an atheist ? just because im not a black, gay ned flanders type like you doesnt mean im not a believer.

ur one of the worst type of religious people, the ones that take all the positivity out of religion and turn it into a repent repent repent rampage.focus on the beast and the death and the end of days. your not johnny cash moron, you cant make it sound scary. ill bet you whacked off to passion of the christ

Forgive me my friend. I was under the assumption that you were not a believer because of the responses you gave me. I apologize for any words I said that may have offended you. God bless.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Me, tv is bullshit. I'd have to see in person.

Hmmmmm......I don't believe that the people who will be alive during that time period will be so kind and patient with you if you refuse to conform to the demands of the beast.

 

[The True Flesh]

The fire balls will be killing people while people are running for cover. The beast will demonstrate his power, which will be broadcast around the world thanks to satellite technology, so that all the world can marvel after the beast.

Who would deny that this person is god if you see a man calling fire down from heaven on TV?

Answer: Only those who know the truth.

I don't buy into any of this at all.

 

[Rock_Well]

pat on the back for giving people in the position of power a heads up on the very idea to play off of when they have an intention to use your beliefs against you for the purpose of luring you into doing one thing or the next.

 

[b*braze]

The fire balls will be killing people while people are running for cover. The beast will demonstrate his power, which will be broadcast around the world thanks to satellite technology, so that all the world can marvel after the beast.

Who would deny that this person is god if you see a man calling fire down from heaven on TV?

Answer: Only those who know the truth.

el. oh. el.

is this something you actually believe?

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Hmmmmm......I don't believe that the people who will be alive during that time period will be so kind and patient with you if you refuse to conform to the demands of the beast.

Like what kind of demands?

 

[VIBE]

(Even though im really not) If you were to wake up one day and realize that everything you've heard about from family, friends, the internet, the bible, etc. in regards to

1. the rapture of the church
2. mass chaos
3. the lie
4. extermination camps
5. illuminati
6. etc........

were true, would you give in to the demands that would be in place in order to survive and live?

as in, would you conform to the demands of the world ruler or would you confess that you were wrong, and that you now truly believe that there is a God in heaven who will judge the living and the dead?

Of course this choice will be a matter of life and death. Those who are left behind will have only 2 options. Live under the rule of the beast or die as a faithful believer in Jesus Christ. What would you do?

If this all happened, of course I'd accept JC as my L&S.

Me, tv is bullshit. I'd have to see in person.

Exactly, we all see what David Blaine and Cris Angel can do but we don't believe it. It would have to be done in person, not on some big tv screen in New York.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

see this is ur major malfunction (one of them at least)

where did u read that i was an atheist ? just because im not a black, gay ned flanders type like you doesnt mean im not a believer.

ur one of the worst type of religious people, the ones that take all the positivity out of religion and turn it into a repent repent repent rampage.focus on the beast and the death and the end of days. your not johnny cash moron, you cant make it sound scary. ill bet you whacked off to passion of the christ

^^^ This.....

Isaiah 30: 9-10

"That this [is] a rebellious people, lying children, children [that] will not hear the law of the LORD:"

"Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:"

Having a real understanding of Christ and what he was about was always not love, love ,love. And this is half of the problem we have today. Most preachers are not teaching against wickedness and teaching the laws which are also apart of obedience and love. You cannot teah one without the other.....

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

Threadstarter had a child out of wedlock but still constantly preaches his bullshit to us.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Threadstarter had a child out of wedlock but still constantly preaches his bullshit to us.

Everyone makes mistakes bro.

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

If everyone thought like that, no one would be qualified to preach.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

i'm just saying, the dude constantly Bible thumping and talking to you about morality had a kid out of wedlock

 

[GSonII]

It all depends on how I realize this. I believe in God already but I don't necessarily believe that the Bible is 100% truth. How am I suppose to realize this and recognize it is 100% true? Lastly, I must mention that the problem with the OP's thread is that this would not be possible because the bible would consider me a evil being and damn near the devil for wanting a special sign. I am suppose to live blindly off of faith because I can't be Gods chosen one as they use to sing in my church growing up.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

I don't buy into any of this at all.

How? It's right here in the scriptures. I know you believe that God can't lie, so how do you dispute this passage?

"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live." Revelation 13:11-14

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

el. oh. el.

is this something you actually believe?

Yes. i wont be on earth to witness it though. Praise God!

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Like what kind of demands?

Accept Jesus Christ and be killed or receive the mark and worship the beast. No in between.

" 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." Revelation 13:15-18

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

If I woke up one day and honestly felt that the bible was right I would accept Jesus christ as my lord and savior without a doubt.

"Listen, now is God's acceptable time! Now is the day of salvation!" 2 Corinthians 6:2

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Accept Jesus Christ and be killed or receive the mark and worship the beast. No in between.

Yeah but as long as my hearts in the right place its good, god weighs the heart.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

It all depends on how I realize this. I believe in God already but I don't necessarily believe that the Bible is 100% truth. How am I suppose to realize this and recognize it is 100% true? Lastly, I must mention that the problem with the OP's thread is that this would not be possible because the bible would consider me a evil being and damn near the devil for wanting a special sign. I am suppose to live blindly off of faith because I can't be Gods chosen one as they use to sing in my church growing up.

Do you believe this?

"1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures." 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Yeah but as long as my hearts in the right place its good, god weighs the heart.

God does weigh the heart, but without Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you are eternally damned.

 

[The True Flesh]

How? It's right here in the scriptures. I know you believe that God can't lie, so how do you dispute this passage?

"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live." Revelation 13:11-14

I'm not a futurist and I do not interpret this literally because there are too many problems with literal interpretation. In addition, all of the events that you map out are CARNAL. Where does anything spiritual come into play ?

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:3-5

Furthermore some things spoken of prophetically in the book of Revelation are apparently taking place NOW and have been for a very long time. Note the difference between what is written in Daniel and what is written in the Revelation.......

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Daniel 12:3-4

Contrast with:

And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. Revelation 22:10

Most of what John was writing on Patmos was allegorical !!! and was not portrayed as things in the distant future but instead things that were beginning to happen then and will continue until the revelation of Christ.......

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. Revelation 1:1-3

Also.......



And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. Revelation 22:6

I just don't buy into this one man antichrist stuff. I'm not sure if you noticed, but judging by the climate of this thread, I just can't see people literally bowing down to a statue of a living man just because he does some powerful magic tricks and bullies people into fighting for his kingdom.

This is a man made interpretation that didn't exsist before the seventeenth century (dispensational futurism) and I know better that to follow man.

PEACE