Hulk vs. Superman

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DarkRaiden;6888212 said:
veikuri;6887338 said:
DarkRaiden;6887273 said:
veikuri;6884926 said:
DarkRaiden;6877316 said:
veikuri;6877064 said:
Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.

Post them scans.

What exactly do you want scans of? Her beating Superman? Maybe her taking Zoom's punch that launched her across the continent (supposedly harder than Superman's best punch)? Her tanking a nuke?

Is that all you have that you believe she is Superman level? Why would Superman fight WW with killing intent?

Maxwell Lord mind controlled him and made him think she was Doomsday who just killed Lois Lane. So yeah he was actually bloodlusted and wanted to kill her.

Last I checked when she went toe to toe with a blood lusted Supes he dominated her.

 
veikuri;6889241 said:
DarkRaiden;6888212 said:
veikuri;6887338 said:
DarkRaiden;6887273 said:
veikuri;6884926 said:
DarkRaiden;6877316 said:
veikuri;6877064 said:
Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.

Post them scans.

What exactly do you want scans of? Her beating Superman? Maybe her taking Zoom's punch that launched her across the continent (supposedly harder than Superman's best punch)? Her tanking a nuke?

Is that all you have that you believe she is Superman level? Why would Superman fight WW with killing intent?

Maxwell Lord mind controlled him and made him think she was Doomsday who just killed Lois Lane. So yeah he was actually bloodlusted and wanted to kill her.

Last I checked when she went toe to toe with a blood lusted Supes he dominated her.

She won the fight though. Slit his throat and had him out long enough to kill Max Lord.
 
That particular Supes/ Diana fight was a good one. It was a good showing for WW..other times she doesn't fare that well against Superman
 
Hulk would not win simply because he is too dumb i.e. blinded by rage. he can't think strategically. Superman has a lot more tools and can think clearly so he would figure some shit out.
 
A.J. Trillzynski;6921588 said:
Hulk would not win simply because he is too dumb i.e. blinded by rage. he can't think strategically. Superman has a lot more tools and can think clearly so he would figure some shit out.

I assume you haven't seen any Hulk appearances since the early 90s. There are several versions of the Hulk. Savage (dumb) Hulk hasn't made an appearance in quite some time.

 
I don't read Marvel comics but I'm going by the movies and in the recent movies there is nothing to indicate that he is very bright. I thought the movies were making an attempt to be true to the books?
 
jaxn;6922270 said:
A.J. Trillzynski;6921588 said:
Hulk would not win simply because he is too dumb i.e. blinded by rage. he can't think strategically. Superman has a lot more tools and can think clearly so he would figure some shit out.

I assume you haven't seen any Hulk appearances since the early 90s. There are several versions of the Hulk. Savage (dumb) Hulk hasn't made an appearance in quite some time.

I just researched this shit and apparently he is back to being dumb and in any case he is normally depicted as dumb many more times than smart. also, many would argue that that is the basic nature of the character - dumb Hulk allows writers to write a complex character where as Bruce he is a genius but frail and as the hulk he is powerful and stupid. smart Hulk seems like an on and off thing but not really consistent with the character, i'd be like if we compared Hulk with some other vastly overpowered version of Superman, for which of course there are many examples. but we're not, we're comparing regular ass Hulk with regular ass Superman. and regular Hulk is dumb.
 
A.J. Trillzynski;6922610 said:
jaxn;6922270 said:
A.J. Trillzynski;6921588 said:
Hulk would not win simply because he is too dumb i.e. blinded by rage. he can't think strategically. Superman has a lot more tools and can think clearly so he would figure some shit out.

I assume you haven't seen any Hulk appearances since the early 90s. There are several versions of the Hulk. Savage (dumb) Hulk hasn't made an appearance in quite some time.

I just researched this shit and apparently he is back to being dumb and in any case he is normally depicted as dumb many more times than smart. also, many would argue that that is the basic nature of the character - dumb Hulk allows writers to write a complex character where as Bruce he is a genius but frail and as the hulk he is powerful and stupid. smart Hulk seems like an on and off thing but not really consistent with the character, i'd be like if we compared Hulk with some other vastly overpowered version of Superman, for which of course there are many examples. but we're not, we're comparing regular ass Hulk with regular ass Superman. and regular Hulk is dumb.

There hasn't been appearance of the Savage Hulk that you're referring to in awhile. If the Hulk currently running around Marvel is indeed the Savage one, that can lead to an interesting storyline if handle correctly, but considering all of the events from WWH, it would be odd if Marvel went in that direction again, but then again, it is Marvel. Actually, the majority of his appearances portrays an intelligent Hulk, whether he's in full possession of his intelligence also depends on what incarnation of the Hulk appears. The basic nature of the character is that Bruce Banner is a genius scientist who has a raging monster inside who he has to control. It's not about being dumb whatsoever. Have you seen the Hulk as Grey Hulk, the Professor, WWH or even the toned down version of Hulk right after WWH? They're all pretty intelligent. You do realize there is no "regular" Hulk right? Different versions of the Hulk can just manifest from out of nowhere
 
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jaxn;6922770 said:
A.J. Trillzynski;6922590 said:
I wanna know what's Hulk gonna do once he gets put in space? this seems too easy.

Hulk can breathe in space

not what I meant.. he can't fly therefore he can't control himself - wherever he'd be thrown in space he would just keep traveling forever in that direction. if Superman tossed him towards the sun he would just cruise in that direction without being able to control himself until he impacted the sun. even just one punch and he would start spinning out of control and not be able to stop himself.

 
well Hulk could always just use his thunder clap in space. I'd imagine that would provide all the momentum he would need to go in the direction he chooses. I don't think the Hulk would just let Superman fly him into space to begin with.
 
jaxn;6925709 said:
well Hulk could always just use his thunder clap in space. I'd imagine that would provide all the momentum he would need to go in the direction he chooses. I don't think the Hulk would just let Superman fly him into space to begin with.

His thunderclap wouldn't work in space for the same reasons there is no sound in space.
 
The Lonious Monk;6925726 said:
jaxn;6925709 said:
well Hulk could always just use his thunder clap in space. I'd imagine that would provide all the momentum he would need to go in the direction he chooses. I don't think the Hulk would just let Superman fly him into space to begin with.

His thunderclap wouldn't work in space for the same reasons there is no sound in space.

this is comics. He shouldn't be able to survive in space unaided but he does. He shouldn't be able to grab energy, but he does
 

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