Hulk vs. Superman

[jaxn]

who is yall? My position has never changed on the subject. If you think Hulk can beat Thanos for a majority, that's great, but just know their history says otherwise

Why you mad huh? What did the world breaker done to you to get you in a rage of fury.

Yes I know the great mind, military strategists, great power level and feats of Thanos and his encounters with the HULK, but mind you 1) he fought different incarnations of the HULK 2) He nevered face the Savage Hulk 3) World Breaker Hulk is a whole different level of power than all those Hulks. 4) He never fought hulk 1 on 1

Read Thanos Quest #1 and read how Thanos says he avoids to fight the HULK and a 1 on battle

I don't know if you're being serious or not, but if you want to debate a Hulk/Thanos fight with me, that's great. You're on here bragging about the Hulk causing earthquakes, when a way weaker Thanos destroyed a planet just fighting Dumb Drax.. but hey continue on

So Thanos fighting Drax two super cosmic beings with immense power, using kinetic energy destroyed a planet.

WHEN the world breaker who can't even take a few steps with out splitting a planet in half.

Now come again?

When did the Hulk split a planet in half? I'll wait?

 

[jaxn]

Someone said strongest versions of supes vs strongest version of hulk.

Its common knowledge that Savage Hulk cannot stand up to Post-Crisis Supes. Hes outclassed in every category. This fight is ONLY fair if Supes holds back.

say whaaaaa?????? Maybe you meant Pre-Crisis Superman.

No, he said normal Superman vs normal Hulk which is usually Post-Crisis Superman vs Savage Hulk. I guess I should start saying New 52.

I'm contesting your assertion that Post-Crisis Superman outclasses Hulk in every category. Post-Crisis Superman was killed by someone inferior to the Savage Hulk during that period. DoS Doomsday would get his shit pushed in by Savage Hulk. I assumed you meant Pre-Crisis Superman, since that's the only incarnation of Superman, without getting into the alternate versions of Supes, that outclasses Hulk

I'm contesting your knowledge of Superman. I thought it was common knowledge that DoS Doomsday fought a weaker Superman. There is Byrne's run of Superman which is a weaker Superman and there is Post-Crisis Superman which is everything after Byrne's run up to New 52. Obviously we aren't talking about Byrne's much weaker Superman who couldn't even go into outer space without a oxygen mask.

Again, are you being serious here? There's Pre-Crisis Superman, There's Post-Crisis Superman and there's the nu52 Superman..now which Superman do you think fought DoS Doomsday? It sure as hell wasn't Pre-Crisis Superman. *ALL* Versions of Superman after Pre-Crisis are weaker unless you're getting into alternater versions of Superman..

Simply replace Galactus with World Breaker Hulk. This discussion is pointless.

um, Galactus nearly killed Thanos with one blast after this. This was a Thanos with ALL of his shielding up.

Are you implying that Hulk would kill Thanos with all his shields up?

Again, I don't know if you guys are being serious or what, but no. Showing an image of Thanos getting a shot off on Galactus when not giving context to the story isn't a great idea. Thanos isn't anywhere near Galactus' level in power. That entire arc was about how Galactus was effected by the entity Hunger..As soon as he got that shot off, Thanos damn near died from a casual blast from Galactus. He doesn't just show up on Galactus' door trying to fight him. Everything in that arc involved prep. In fact, everytime Thanons fights guys above his weight class it involves some form of prep. He has plenty of showings against guys on Hulk's level and greater, who he casually dismisses.

Go read that story again please. Galactus only broke Thanos's shields, nothing more. He was fine for the rest of the story and even teleported Galactus away when they teamed up. How on earth did he die by a casual blast from Galactus when GALACTUS himself said he never had to exert himself just to break a shield. Thanos did nothing prep-worthy, just stop.

He only broke his shields? The fuck? Thanos was out of the fight at that point. Done. A wrap. Thanos had absolutely no chance of doing anything to Galactus. Galactus casually went through Thanos' defenses..The fuck you think he had shields up in the first place if prep wasn't involved..Thanos was getting his shit pushed in by Tyrant and yet, you're somehow implying he stands a chances against Galactus? That entire arc involved prep on Thanos' part because Thanos knew Galactus was being influenced by Hunger...you are the one who needs to stop with this nonsense..

Read the stories, not just respect threads. You're starting to sound like waterproof

hahaha ok..If you actually read the stories then you know everything you're saying is pure nonsense, but continue on.

 

[jaxn]

That "steps" feat is just stupid. It should be dismissed because it's one of those things that the writer does because it sounds cool, but makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

exactly, but hey continue on with the nonsense.

 

[waterproof]

Damn mobile site, like I was saying to the lady, if you knew comics you would of known about the hulk and Galactus meetings and Hulk Taken full eye beam and hand blast from Galactus.

Why don't you start with Secret Wars and for the others that's your job when you have time to stop smacking your lips and snapping your fingers sweetheart

 

[jaxn]

Simply replace Galactus with World Breaker Hulk. This discussion is pointless.

SMH this is what you come to now, The Hulk survived and came out unscathed from a Full Cosmic Blast to the face point blank range from The Silver Surfer.

hmmm, during this period, Thanos was far more powerful than Surfer..and what issue are you referring to? the Surfer has beaten the Hulk in virtually every encounter..almost killing him at one point. IIRC, The Hulk's best showing against the Surfer came during the WWH event in which both of their powers were being neutralized..Surfer beat up on the Hulk and his crew..the Hulk got the drop on Surfer once the disc was removed from his chest. Surfer was thanking the Hulk when he received a beat down.

AND the Savage Hulk walked through a Full Powered Eye beam blast from galactus.

stop, you're embarassing yourself.

What in the fuck Thanos blast will do to The World Breaker, and his blast better not be No magic or Cosmic energy because that will only make the breaker of world's stronger for The World Breaker body constant siphon Gamma Radiation, Energy from any Sun, Magic and cosmic energy.

I mean the world breaker changed the orbit of a planet.

hmm, i'm going to go out on a limb and say Thanos has more raw power than what Ironman can achieve..

Like I said World Breaker would put an ass whooping on Thanos.

HULK Smash, Nuff Said

suuurrreeee

Your opinion is not valid concerning comics...like others your estrogen lady like behavior is unacceptable in the presence of men. The hoe in you has no limits.

Because if you knew comics and Hulk and Galactus meetings with out using Google, you would of Hulk stood up to many hand and eye beam blast.

One for instance happe

this is coming from a guy who goes hard for the Hulk but doesn't even know shit about...the Hulk.. I respect some folks on here for their comic knowledge, or at least their willingness to engage in serious conversations..you sound like a straight idiot, a pure fanboy. I've known many fanboys for characters who actually have common sense, but apparently that's not the case with you. We can agree to disagree because i have no patience to debate clowns

 

[waterproof]

That "steps" feat is just stupid. It should be dismissed because it's one of those things that the writer does because it sounds cool, but makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Then you might as well throw out Rune Thors, God of God's Hercules, and every powerhouse feats out also, come on now really? Every character got a max Power set level.

Take this sniffling to Joe Quesada and see what he think, lol....

 

[waterproof]

Simply replace Galactus with World Breaker Hulk. This discussion is pointless.

SMH this is what you come to now, The Hulk survived and came out unscathed from a Full Cosmic Blast to the face point blank range from The Silver Surfer.

hmmm, during this period, Thanos was far more powerful than Surfer..and what issue are you referring to? the Surfer has beaten the Hulk in virtually every encounter..almost killing him at one point. IIRC, The Hulk's best showing against the Surfer came during the WWH event in which both of their powers were being neutralized..Surfer beat up on the Hulk and his crew..the Hulk got the drop on Surfer once the disc was removed from his chest. Surfer was thanking the Hulk when he received a beat down.

AND the Savage Hulk walked through a Full Powered Eye beam blast from galactus.

stop, you're embarassing yourself.

What in the fuck Thanos blast will do to The World Breaker, and his blast better not be No magic or Cosmic energy because that will only make the breaker of world's stronger for The World Breaker body constant siphon Gamma Radiation, Energy from any Sun, Magic and cosmic energy.

I mean the world breaker changed the orbit of a planet.

hmm, i'm going to go out on a limb and say Thanos has more raw power than what Ironman can achieve..

Like I said World Breaker would put an ass whooping on Thanos.

HULK Smash, Nuff Said

suuurrreeee

Your opinion is not valid concerning comics...like others your estrogen lady like behavior is unacceptable in the presence of men. The hoe in you has no limits.

Because if you knew comics and Hulk and Galactus meetings with out using Google, you would of Hulk stood up to many hand and eye beam blast.

One for instance happe

this is coming from a guy who goes hard for the Hulk but doesn't even know shit about...the Hulk.. I respect some folks on here for their comic knowledge, or at least their willingness to engage in serious conversations..you sound like a straight idiot, a pure fanboy. I've known many fanboys for characters who actually have common sense, but apparently that's not the case with you. We can agree to disagree because i have no patience to debate clowns

Save your plea copping, you know nothing about comics I used facts from Greg Pak and feats from Hulk comics I've been collecting comics for many moons, and you don't know shit, you're the reason why comics collectors are put in a box because girls like you shows their. ....you really I'm going to cut to the chase, read your post and tell me it wasn't written by a bitch. I can't respect you man. Your emotions runs wild, calm down its comics

 

[evoljeanyes]

Lets use common knowledge information given by comics. Hulk and Superman have similar strength...neither ahead of the other enough to warrant an advantage.

Superman has better speed and reaction. Though Banners calculations give Hulk a great chance at hitting faster guys...(see hit encounters with surfer, Thor, etc)

Superman has more abilities...flight, heat vision, freeze breath give him distance attacks that cause hulk problems. Although thunderclap and hulk smashes can be considered distance attacks, Superman still holds the advantage.

Intelligence Banner has an advantage. He is a top 5 intellectual in marvel. Superman isn't stupid but lacks genius level intellect.

Fighting ability both guys are sluggers..bricks. Even match

Hulk wins: Thor, Loki, Abomination

Clear superior: Silver Surfer

Supes wins: Cap Marvel, Black Adam, Wonder Woman

clear superior: Martian Manhunter

This is as even a match as there is lol.

Also Thanos would beat any incarnation of Hulk. And Thanos has begged for his life in fights Galactus before. He isn't on that level

 

[Broddie]

Actually if you want to go by common knowledge in the comic books (from pre-crisis to post-crisis to new earth and new 52) then indeed Superman is a genius level intellect. Based on genetics and physiology alone a Kryptonian is more intelligent than even super intelligent earthlings. Let alone the fact that thanks to his powers on earth Superman could learn and retain information infinitely faster than any human.

 

[waterproof]

Lets use common knowledge information given by comics. Hulk and Superman have similar strength...neither ahead of the other enough to warrant an advantage.

Superman has better speed and reaction. Though Banners calculations give Hulk a great chance at hitting faster guys...(see hit encounters with surfer, Thor, etc)

Superman has more abilities...flight, heat vision, freeze breath give him distance attacks that cause hulk problems. Although thunderclap and hulk smashes can be considered distance attacks, Superman still holds the advantage.

Intelligence Banner has an advantage. He is a top 5 intellectual in marvel. Superman isn't stupid but lacks genius level intellect.

Fighting ability both guys are sluggers..bricks. Even match

Hulk wins: Thor, Loki, Abomination

Clear superior: Silver Surfer

Supes wins: Cap Marvel, Black Adam, Wonder Woman

clear superior: Martian Manhunter

This is as even a match as there is lol.

Also Thanos would beat any incarnation ,of Hulk. And Thanos has begged for his life in fights Galactus before. He isn't on that level

I agree with you, Banner does give Hulk an Advantage, and Banner saved Hulk ass just as much Hulk saved Banner ass.

And with these vs matches lots of people don't keep it in the comic realm, they make up crazy shit. I'm goin to keep it in the comic realm, and a big factor is Banner aint a afraid to kill, banner will kill and knows he has and have in him. When pushed banner will kill, manipulate etc... banner can be cold and void of feelings.

Case in point when The Green Scar was fighting his son Skaar and they was causing natural disasters on earth, Hulk beat his son so bad, I mean beating him from an inch of his life that the only way Skaar to save his life and stop the hulk from killing him was to transform back to the little boy.

Clark will never do that to his own blood, the edge goes to Hulk because they will kill.

And Hulk smashed Marvel Superman the Gladiator

 

[The Lonious Monk]

That "steps" feat is just stupid. It should be dismissed because it's one of those things that the writer does because it sounds cool, but makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Then you might as well throw out Rune Thors, God of God's Hercules, and every powerhouse feats out also, come on now really? Every character got a max Power set level.

Take this sniffling to Joe Quesada and see what he think, lol....

I'm not saying throw it out because it's a top level feat. I said throw it out because it's a stupid feat. It would be one thing if he was stomping on the planet and threatening to destroy it. That would make sense. However, his steps threatening to destroy the planet makes no sense. Unless, his anger increases his mass exponentially, there is no reason why the act of him walking should be that damaging.

You keep on asking what other character can destroy a planet by walking. Well no other character has been shown to be able to do that because no other writer has written anything dumb like that.

 

[Broddie]

This thread just reminded me of how great Planet Hulk really was.

 

[jaxn]

yeah it was

 

[veikuri]

Lets use common knowledge information given by comics. Hulk and Superman have similar strength...neither ahead of the other enough to warrant an advantage.

Superman has better speed and reaction. Though Banners calculations give Hulk a great chance at hitting faster guys...(see hit encounters with surfer, Thor, etc)

Superman has more abilities...flight, heat vision, freeze breath give him distance attacks that cause hulk problems. Although thunderclap and hulk smashes can be considered distance attacks, Superman still holds the advantage.

Intelligence Banner has an advantage. He is a top 5 intellectual in marvel. Superman isn't stupid but lacks genius level intellect.

Fighting ability both guys are sluggers..bricks. Even match

Hulk wins: Thor, Loki, Abomination

Clear superior: Silver Surfer

Supes wins: Cap Marvel, Black Adam, Wonder Woman

clear superior: Martian Manhunter

This is as even a match as there is lol.

Also Thanos would beat any incarnation of Hulk. And Thanos has begged for his life in fights Galactus before. He isn't on that level

Since when is Hulk above Loki and Thor?

 

[veikuri]

Someone said strongest versions of supes vs strongest version of hulk.

Its common knowledge that Savage Hulk cannot stand up to Post-Crisis Supes. Hes outclassed in every category. This fight is ONLY fair if Supes holds back.

say whaaaaa?????? Maybe you meant Pre-Crisis Superman.

No, he said normal Superman vs normal Hulk which is usually Post-Crisis Superman vs Savage Hulk. I guess I should start saying New 52.

I'm contesting your assertion that Post-Crisis Superman outclasses Hulk in every category. Post-Crisis Superman was killed by someone inferior to the Savage Hulk during that period. DoS Doomsday would get his shit pushed in by Savage Hulk. I assumed you meant Pre-Crisis Superman, since that's the only incarnation of Superman, without getting into the alternate versions of Supes, that outclasses Hulk

I'm contesting your knowledge of Superman. I thought it was common knowledge that DoS Doomsday fought a weaker Superman. There is Byrne's run of Superman which is a weaker Superman and there is Post-Crisis Superman which is everything after Byrne's run up to New 52. Obviously we aren't talking about Byrne's much weaker Superman who couldn't even go into outer space without a oxygen mask.

Again, are you being serious here? There's Pre-Crisis Superman, There's Post-Crisis Superman and there's the nu52 Superman..now which Superman do you think fought DoS Doomsday? It sure as hell wasn't Pre-Crisis Superman. *ALL* Versions of Superman after Pre-Crisis are weaker unless you're getting into alternater versions of Superman..

Simply replace Galactus with World Breaker Hulk. This discussion is pointless.

um, Galactus nearly killed Thanos with one blast after this. This was a Thanos with ALL of his shielding up.

Are you implying that Hulk would kill Thanos with all his shields up?

Again, I don't know if you guys are being serious or what, but no. Showing an image of Thanos getting a shot off on Galactus when not giving context to the story isn't a great idea. Thanos isn't anywhere near Galactus' level in power. That entire arc was about how Galactus was effected by the entity Hunger..As soon as he got that shot off, Thanos damn near died from a casual blast from Galactus. He doesn't just show up on Galactus' door trying to fight him. Everything in that arc involved prep. In fact, everytime Thanons fights guys above his weight class it involves some form of prep. He has plenty of showings against guys on Hulk's level and greater, who he casually dismisses.

Go read that story again please. Galactus only broke Thanos's shields, nothing more. He was fine for the rest of the story and even teleported Galactus away when they teamed up. How on earth did he die by a casual blast from Galactus when GALACTUS himself said he never had to exert himself just to break a shield. Thanos did nothing prep-worthy, just stop.

He only broke his shields? The fuck? Thanos was out of the fight at that point. Done. A wrap. Thanos had absolutely no chance of doing anything to Galactus. Galactus casually went through Thanos' defenses..The fuck you think he had shields up in the first place if prep wasn't involved..Thanos was getting his shit pushed in by Tyrant and yet, you're somehow implying he stands a chances against Galactus? That entire arc involved prep on Thanos' part because Thanos knew Galactus was being influenced by Hunger...you are the one who needs to stop with this nonsense..

Read the stories, not just respect threads. You're starting to sound like waterproof

hahaha ok..If you actually read the stories then you know everything you're saying is pure nonsense, but continue on.

What exactly is your argument? Are youjust talking to talk?

 

[waterproof]

That "steps" feat is just stupid. It should be dismissed because it's one of those things that the writer does because it sounds cool, but makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Then you might as well throw out Rune Thors, God of God's Hercules, and every powerhouse feats out also, come on now really? Every character got a max Power set level.

Take this sniffling to Joe Quesada and see what he think, lol....

I'm not saying throw it out because it's a top level feat. I said throw it out because it's a stupid feat. It would be one thing if he was stomping on the planet and threatening to destroy it. That would make sense. However, his steps threatening to destroy the planet makes no sense. Unless, his anger increases his mass exponentially, there is no reason why the act of him walking should be that damaging.

You keep on asking what other character can destroy a planet by walking. Well no other character has been shown to be able to do that because no other writer has written anything dumb like that.

Blame Greg Pak huh? First of all you should know nothing get pass Joe Quesada desk when it comes to Marvel big events, he gives the ok.

Yes Hulk in World Breaker mode can't take multiple steps with out cracking the planet in half. He's a world breaker, that's what he does and Marvel don't have a problem with it because HULK is the strongest there is. There's no stronger character in marvel than the hulk. Marvel celebrates that. Just a few years ago marvel celebrate that hulk is the strongest there is by releasing a DVD of his feats.

If marvel had a problem with HULK power as the world breaker they would never mentioned his name again or buried the world breaker never to be used again. But if you read the Avengers Tony asked Bruce Banner which Bruce he's talking to, meaning if the Bruce who's one with the world breaker is the person who's he's talking to and at the end he told Bruce your the World Breaker.

Marvel have no problem so why everybody is losing their minds

 

[evoljeanyes]

@Veikuri I was noting some of his wins. @broddie you are actually right!

 

[Broddie]

This thread just reminded me of how great Planet Hulk really was.

It was............WWH was just ok MO had some good spots but for the most part it was subpar compared to Planet Hulk

World War Hulk was a huge disappointment. It was a big reason why I stopped reading Marvel comics.

 

[veikuri]

@Veikuri I was noting some of his wins. @broddie you are actually right!

Thor generally holds back quite a lot when he fights Hulk.

 

[waterproof]

@Veikuri I was noting some of his wins. @broddie you are actually right!

Thor generally holds back quite a lot when he fights Hulk.

That's because there's nothing he can do, Thor even said he can't even kill or beat Hulk in Thor #365