How to get away with ADULTERY, I'm finally talking about it.

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The_Jackal;8598569 said:
You don't reward being loyal with disloyalty in buisness, with friendship, and with a relationship. You want to play to win and fuck all the women you want cool ain't nothing. But if you cheat on your girl especially if you been with her for more then two years then I personally can't and won't see you as a loyal honorable man. That's just me not saying your a bad guy/girl just know that your an opportunist amd that's not necessarily a good thing at all despite what people say.

what does one have to do with the other?

someone can say ,you are not trustworthy because you like to drink alcohol.

someone could say you are not in control of yourself because you need to smoke a cigarette.

someone can say you cant be trusted to commit because you are not married.

everyone has a vice...everyone had a weakness. women for some, drugs for others, alcohol for others, stuntin, trickin, travel, buying baseball cards.....anything can be someones downfall or used to make them feel good.

most of the top business people have a side chick/family and some sort of substance abuse problem or something.

no one is perfect.

@The_Jackal
 
2stepz_ahead;8599687 said:
The_Jackal;8598569 said:
You don't reward being loyal with disloyalty in buisness, with friendship, and with a relationship. You want to play to win and fuck all the women you want cool ain't nothing. But if you cheat on your girl especially if you been with her for more then two years then I personally can't and won't see you as a loyal honorable man. That's just me not saying your a bad guy/girl just know that your an opportunist amd that's not necessarily a good thing at all despite what people say.

what does one have to do with the other?

someone can say ,you are not trustworthy because you like to drink alcohol.

someone could say you are not in control of yourself because you need to smoke a cigarette.

someone can say you cant be trusted to commit because you are not married.

everyone has a vice...everyone had a weakness. women for some, drugs for others, alcohol for others, stuntin, trickin, travel, buying baseball cards.....anything can be someones downfall or used to make them feel good.

most of the top business people have a side chick/family and some sort of substance abuse problem or something.

no one is perfect.

@The_Jackal

Because there is a strict difference from drinking alcohol, smoking, stunting , whatever your vice and betrayin the trust of someone who assuming they haven't cheated has been completely loyal to you. I don't know how you can't see the difference between activatly going behind someone back and just having vices.

Who cares what most top people are doing? That doesn't have anything to do with the choices a man/women makes and if it does then that person is just weak willed.

Nobody is asking for perfection I'm definitely not. All I'm saying is noway you could or i would consider the person a loyal honest person despite what he/she tells themselves
 
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The_Jackal;8599816 said:
2stepz_ahead;8599687 said:
The_Jackal;8598569 said:
You don't reward being loyal with disloyalty in buisness, with friendship, and with a relationship. You want to play to win and fuck all the women you want cool ain't nothing. But if you cheat on your girl especially if you been with her for more then two years then I personally can't and won't see you as a loyal honorable man. That's just me not saying your a bad guy/girl just know that your an opportunist amd that's not necessarily a good thing at all despite what people say.

what does one have to do with the other?

someone can say ,you are not trustworthy because you like to drink alcohol.

someone could say you are not in control of yourself because you need to smoke a cigarette.

someone can say you cant be trusted to commit because you are not married.

everyone has a vice...everyone had a weakness. women for some, drugs for others, alcohol for others, stuntin, trickin, travel, buying baseball cards.....anything can be someones downfall or used to make them feel good.

most of the top business people have a side chick/family and some sort of substance abuse problem or something.

no one is perfect.

@The_Jackal

Because there is a strict difference from drinking alcohol, smoking, stunting , whatever your vice and betrayin the trust of someone who assuming they haven't cheated has been completely loyal to you. I don't know how you can't see the difference between activatly going behind someone back and just having vices.

Who cares what most top people are doing? That doesn't have anything to do with the choices a man/women makes and if it does then that person is just weak willed.

Nobody is asking for perfection I'm definitely not. All I'm saying is noway you could or i would consider the person a loyal honest person despite what he/she tells themselves

but again what does them cheating on their mate have to do with them being an honest person.

you are basing your theory off of what you might think you know.

all those vices can effect making decisions when it comes to business because you re not clear headed or fighting a demon on your back. it may seem like a simple drink but it can or may have spiraled out of control and you may not see it...all you see is the initial drink or whatever.

as forgoing behind someones back....i look at it the same way. i have no idea whats going on in your household or with your mate. soif we was doing business and i know your married and see you with a chick going to your room,its none of my business as long as it doesnt effect our business.

hell, you dont know what someone is doing outside of business or things you dont see until you know or see it. so how can you judge?

i consider patterns and time to call someone loyal, not a single situation that doesnt effect me.

being an opportunist and loyal doesnt go hand and hand or it could go hand and hand depending on the situation.

@The_Jackal

@westie i see you cosign....you got something to say mama?

i got time today
 
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2stepz_ahead;8599868 said:
The_Jackal;8599816 said:
2stepz_ahead;8599687 said:
The_Jackal;8598569 said:
You don't reward being loyal with disloyalty in buisness, with friendship, and with a relationship. You want to play to win and fuck all the women you want cool ain't nothing. But if you cheat on your girl especially if you been with her for more then two years then I personally can't and won't see you as a loyal honorable man. That's just me not saying your a bad guy/girl just know that your an opportunist amd that's not necessarily a good thing at all despite what people say.

what does one have to do with the other?

someone can say ,you are not trustworthy because you like to drink alcohol.

someone could say you are not in control of yourself because you need to smoke a cigarette.

someone can say you cant be trusted to commit because you are not married.

everyone has a vice...everyone had a weakness. women for some, drugs for others, alcohol for others, stuntin, trickin, travel, buying baseball cards.....anything can be someones downfall or used to make them feel good.

most of the top business people have a side chick/family and some sort of substance abuse problem or something.

no one is perfect.

@The_Jackal

Because there is a strict difference from drinking alcohol, smoking, stunting , whatever your vice and betrayin the trust of someone who assuming they haven't cheated has been completely loyal to you. I don't know how you can't see the difference between activatly going behind someone back and just having vices.

Who cares what most top people are doing? That doesn't have anything to do with the choices a man/women makes and if it does then that person is just weak willed.

Nobody is asking for perfection I'm definitely not. All I'm saying is noway you could or i would consider the person a loyal honest person despite what he/she tells themselves

but again what does them cheating on their mate have to do with them being an honest person.

you are basing your theory off of what you might think you know.

all those vices can effect making decisions when it comes to business because you re not clear headed or fighting a demon on your back. it may seem like a simple drink but it can or may have spiraled out of control and you may not see it...all you see is the initial drink or whatever.

as forgoing behind someones back....i look at it the same way. i have no idea whats going on in your household or with your mate. soif we was doing business and i know your married and see you with a chick going to your room,its none of my business as long as it doesnt effect our business.

hell, you dont know what someone is doing outside of business or things you dont see until you know or see it. so how can you judge?

i consider patterns and time to call someone loyal, not a single situation that doesnt effect me.

being an opportunist and loyal doesnt go hand and hand or it could go hand and hand depending on the situation.

@The_Jackal

@westie i see you cosign....you got something to say mama?

i got time today

Are you trolling me? Your a hundred percent serious with that? Ok let's use your logic of seeing patterns and apply it here. If a person is cheating we have to assume that they are in a monogamous with another person and they both agreed to exclusively date only one another. If not then it wouldn't be cheating but I digress. They know that their partner wants them to be faithful and they don't want their partner to be unfaithful. Yet they go out of their way and cheat ultimately showing their disloyalty when a better opportunity arises.

When you drink if you drink obsessively and you make a bad decision as far as your buisness goes that's not being disloyal it's honestly being weak. Jeopardizing your income is one thing but if you have good honest people around you who may or may not have family they need to see and you can't do your part of a job because of vices then you are just a weak man and ultimately a slave to that vice and need to get help/keep getting help. It's a completly different thing and I don't understand how having a vice is even comparable to straight up lying and going behind someone back doing something you know they don't want you to do.
 
Another note I'm not casting judgement as far as cheating goes against their character. Believe morality is just beyond good and evil and I'm not in a position to judge if your either. Just that the person lacks loyalty
 
2stepz_ahead;8599868 said:
The_Jackal;8599816 said:
2stepz_ahead;8599687 said:
The_Jackal;8598569 said:
You don't reward being loyal with disloyalty in buisness, with friendship, and with a relationship. You want to play to win and fuck all the women you want cool ain't nothing. But if you cheat on your girl especially if you been with her for more then two years then I personally can't and won't see you as a loyal honorable man. That's just me not saying your a bad guy/girl just know that your an opportunist amd that's not necessarily a good thing at all despite what people say.

what does one have to do with the other?

someone can say ,you are not trustworthy because you like to drink alcohol.

someone could say you are not in control of yourself because you need to smoke a cigarette.

someone can say you cant be trusted to commit because you are not married.

everyone has a vice...everyone had a weakness. women for some, drugs for others, alcohol for others, stuntin, trickin, travel, buying baseball cards.....anything can be someones downfall or used to make them feel good.

most of the top business people have a side chick/family and some sort of substance abuse problem or something.

no one is perfect.

@The_Jackal

Because there is a strict difference from drinking alcohol, smoking, stunting , whatever your vice and betrayin the trust of someone who assuming they haven't cheated has been completely loyal to you. I don't know how you can't see the difference between activatly going behind someone back and just having vices.

Who cares what most top people are doing? That doesn't have anything to do with the choices a man/women makes and if it does then that person is just weak willed.

Nobody is asking for perfection I'm definitely not. All I'm saying is noway you could or i would consider the person a loyal honest person despite what he/she tells themselves

but again what does them cheating on their mate have to do with them being an honest person.

you are basing your theory off of what you might think you know.

all those vices can effect making decisions when it comes to business because you re not clear headed or fighting a demon on your back. it may seem like a simple drink but it can or may have spiraled out of control and you may not see it...all you see is the initial drink or whatever.

as forgoing behind someones back....i look at it the same way. i have no idea whats going on in your household or with your mate. soif we was doing business and i know your married and see you with a chick going to your room,its none of my business as long as it doesnt effect our business.

hell, you dont know what someone is doing outside of business or things you dont see until you know or see it. so how can you judge?

i consider patterns and time to call someone loyal, not a single situation that doesnt effect me.

being an opportunist and loyal doesnt go hand and hand or it could go hand and hand depending on the situation.

@The_Jackal

@westie i see you cosign....you got something to say mama?

i got time today

I don't. Maybe later
 
The_Jackal;8599899 said:
2stepz_ahead;8599868 said:
The_Jackal;8599816 said:
2stepz_ahead;8599687 said:
The_Jackal;8598569 said:
You don't reward being loyal with disloyalty in buisness, with friendship, and with a relationship. You want to play to win and fuck all the women you want cool ain't nothing. But if you cheat on your girl especially if you been with her for more then two years then I personally can't and won't see you as a loyal honorable man. That's just me not saying your a bad guy/girl just know that your an opportunist amd that's not necessarily a good thing at all despite what people say.

what does one have to do with the other?

someone can say ,you are not trustworthy because you like to drink alcohol.

someone could say you are not in control of yourself because you need to smoke a cigarette.

someone can say you cant be trusted to commit because you are not married.

everyone has a vice...everyone had a weakness. women for some, drugs for others, alcohol for others, stuntin, trickin, travel, buying baseball cards.....anything can be someones downfall or used to make them feel good.

most of the top business people have a side chick/family and some sort of substance abuse problem or something.

no one is perfect.

@The_Jackal

Because there is a strict difference from drinking alcohol, smoking, stunting , whatever your vice and betrayin the trust of someone who assuming they haven't cheated has been completely loyal to you. I don't know how you can't see the difference between activatly going behind someone back and just having vices.

Who cares what most top people are doing? That doesn't have anything to do with the choices a man/women makes and if it does then that person is just weak willed.

Nobody is asking for perfection I'm definitely not. All I'm saying is noway you could or i would consider the person a loyal honest person despite what he/she tells themselves

but again what does them cheating on their mate have to do with them being an honest person.

you are basing your theory off of what you might think you know.

all those vices can effect making decisions when it comes to business because you re not clear headed or fighting a demon on your back. it may seem like a simple drink but it can or may have spiraled out of control and you may not see it...all you see is the initial drink or whatever.

as forgoing behind someones back....i look at it the same way. i have no idea whats going on in your household or with your mate. soif we was doing business and i know your married and see you with a chick going to your room,its none of my business as long as it doesnt effect our business.

hell, you dont know what someone is doing outside of business or things you dont see until you know or see it. so how can you judge?

i consider patterns and time to call someone loyal, not a single situation that doesnt effect me.

being an opportunist and loyal doesnt go hand and hand or it could go hand and hand depending on the situation.

@The_Jackal

@westie i see you cosign....you got something to say mama?

i got time today

Are you trolling me? Your a hundred percent serious with that? Ok let's use your logic of seeing patterns and apply it here. If a person is cheating we have to assume that they are in a monogamous with another person and they both agreed to exclusively date only one another. If not then it wouldn't be cheating but I digress. They know that their partner wants them to be faithful and they don't want their partner to be unfaithful. Yet they go out of their way and cheat ultimately showing their disloyalty when a better opportunity arises.

When you drink if you drink obsessively and you make a bad decision as far as your buisness goes that's not being disloyal it's honestly being weak. Jeopardizing your income is one thing but if you have good honest people around you who may or may not have family they need to see and you can't do your part of a job because of vices then you are just a weak man and ultimately a slave to that vice and need to get help/keep getting help. It's a completly different thing and I don't understand how having a vice is even comparable to straight up lying and going behind someone back doing something you know they don't want you to do.

The_Jackal;8599908 said:
Another note I'm not casting judgement as far as cheating goes against their character. Believe morality is just beyond good and evil and I'm not in a position to judge if your either. Just that the person lacks loyalty

im not trolling....just a question.

i hear what your saying but who says the other person was loyal to them.

i see your point...my point is they are all the same to me. they all show a moment of weakness. one shows it with your partner which and ruin a family, one shows it with alcohol that can ruin lives. business partners show disloyalty when they embezzle money. and i can keep going. its all weakness to a degree and without knowing a persons circumstances or background.

we all tend to judge others based on what we think is right or wrong without fully understanding how they got to that point.

i am honestly trying to change how i look and judge others...i have learned alot this year. everything you see aint what it truly is, even if the person does shit you disagree with.

 
2stepz_ahead;8599927 said:
The_Jackal;8599899 said:
2stepz_ahead;8599868 said:
The_Jackal;8599816 said:
2stepz_ahead;8599687 said:
The_Jackal;8598569 said:
You don't reward being loyal with disloyalty in buisness, with friendship, and with a relationship. You want to play to win and fuck all the women you want cool ain't nothing. But if you cheat on your girl especially if you been with her for more then two years then I personally can't and won't see you as a loyal honorable man. That's just me not saying your a bad guy/girl just know that your an opportunist amd that's not necessarily a good thing at all despite what people say.

what does one have to do with the other?

someone can say ,you are not trustworthy because you like to drink alcohol.

someone could say you are not in control of yourself because you need to smoke a cigarette.

someone can say you cant be trusted to commit because you are not married.

everyone has a vice...everyone had a weakness. women for some, drugs for others, alcohol for others, stuntin, trickin, travel, buying baseball cards.....anything can be someones downfall or used to make them feel good.

most of the top business people have a side chick/family and some sort of substance abuse problem or something.

no one is perfect.

@The_Jackal

Because there is a strict difference from drinking alcohol, smoking, stunting , whatever your vice and betrayin the trust of someone who assuming they haven't cheated has been completely loyal to you. I don't know how you can't see the difference between activatly going behind someone back and just having vices.

Who cares what most top people are doing? That doesn't have anything to do with the choices a man/women makes and if it does then that person is just weak willed.

Nobody is asking for perfection I'm definitely not. All I'm saying is noway you could or i would consider the person a loyal honest person despite what he/she tells themselves

but again what does them cheating on their mate have to do with them being an honest person.

you are basing your theory off of what you might think you know.

all those vices can effect making decisions when it comes to business because you re not clear headed or fighting a demon on your back. it may seem like a simple drink but it can or may have spiraled out of control and you may not see it...all you see is the initial drink or whatever.

as forgoing behind someones back....i look at it the same way. i have no idea whats going on in your household or with your mate. soif we was doing business and i know your married and see you with a chick going to your room,its none of my business as long as it doesnt effect our business.

hell, you dont know what someone is doing outside of business or things you dont see until you know or see it. so how can you judge?

i consider patterns and time to call someone loyal, not a single situation that doesnt effect me.

being an opportunist and loyal doesnt go hand and hand or it could go hand and hand depending on the situation.

@The_Jackal

@westie i see you cosign....you got something to say mama?

i got time today

Are you trolling me? Your a hundred percent serious with that? Ok let's use your logic of seeing patterns and apply it here. If a person is cheating we have to assume that they are in a monogamous with another person and they both agreed to exclusively date only one another. If not then it wouldn't be cheating but I digress. They know that their partner wants them to be faithful and they don't want their partner to be unfaithful. Yet they go out of their way and cheat ultimately showing their disloyalty when a better opportunity arises.

When you drink if you drink obsessively and you make a bad decision as far as your buisness goes that's not being disloyal it's honestly being weak. Jeopardizing your income is one thing but if you have good honest people around you who may or may not have family they need to see and you can't do your part of a job because of vices then you are just a weak man and ultimately a slave to that vice and need to get help/keep getting help. It's a completly different thing and I don't understand how having a vice is even comparable to straight up lying and going behind someone back doing something you know they don't want you to do.

The_Jackal;8599908 said:
Another note I'm not casting judgement as far as cheating goes against their character. Believe morality is just beyond good and evil and I'm not in a position to judge if your either. Just that the person lacks loyalty

im not trolling....just a question.

i hear what your saying but who says the other person was loyal to them.

i see your point...my point is they are all the same to me. they all show a moment of weakness. one shows it with your partner which and ruin a family, one shows it with alcohol that can ruin lives. business partners show disloyalty when they embezzle money. and i can keep going. its all weakness to a degree and without knowing a persons circumstances or background.

we all tend to judge others based on what we think is right or wrong without fully understanding how they got to that point.

i am honestly trying to change how i look and judge others...i have learned alot this year. everything you see aint what it truly is, even if the person does shit you disagree with.

I understand you trying change your view and values because they always change and evolve and nothing wrong with it but it just doesn't change the fact. If they both are cheating on each other then strictly by definition they are disloyal and shouldn't be in a relationship or maybe them being with each other is a twist of fate a sort of punishment. An embezzler is in the same boat as far as disloyalty and hopefully will get a very long jail sentence. Im not the expert when it comes to relationship but bad traits that you continually do can carry over to other things in your life you do feel me. Like you were saying the obsessive drinking who drink to much at home might start slowly start drinking at his job.

But it doesn't come down to judging them you can be completely impartial to a person and still say hey this person does shady things, they lie about small things etc etc or you could praise them while still being impartial to them.

 
In all seriousness why in the hell would someone be in a relationship if you're just going to cheat on them? Nothing is justifiable about that men or women and risking purposely hurting someone that's trying to build a nond with you just because of ego or "the hunt" is stupid. I don't give a damn what reason you're trying to tell yourself to think this is okay there is nothing admirable about cheating on your other half.
 
i always find these conversations interesting.....cuz someone is lying

you have women saying all men cheat....all men are dogs or implying it. yet are in relationships.

you have dudes saying all women are hoes or implying it. yet are in relationships.

niggas saying be hard on hoes and always about to leave over small shit...yet are in relationships.

but no one cheats...or they rather break up with their mate or divorce first.

something aint right. all yall aint keeping it 100.

this is the only place where niggas have a high sense of morals yet act like they have no morals at the same time.
 
2stepz_ahead;8600118 said:
i always find these conversations interesting.....cuz someone is lying

you have women saying all men cheat....all men are dogs or implying it. yet are in relationships.

you have dudes saying all women are hoes or implying it. yet are in relationships.

niggas saying be hard on hoes and always about to leave over small shit...yet are in relationships.

but no one cheats...or they rather break up with their mate or divorce first.

something aint right. all yall aint keeping it 100.

this is the only place where niggas have a high sense of morals yet act like they have no morals at the same time.

These niggas lying about being a pimp and having a gang of women. They lovers not playas.
 

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