How is Eminem anywhere near a top 10 rapper based on catalog alone?

[Lab Baby]

He's definitely a top 5 spitter in the game. Catalogue wise... not so much. 99-02 Em was on a GOAT run (all 3 albums are 5 mics, fuck a hater), but after that, son went downhill. Still had bars, but the drugs and the goofy shit fucked up his catalogue. And by the time he got to Recovery, he was spittin lines like "call me Elton John cuz I'm a mean cocksucker". So GOAT list, he's fallen from the 10th spot. But he's still one of my favorite MCs. I disagree with Encore being the worst album ever though, shit had some bangers on it.

None of those albums are better than Reasonable Doubt tho. And even tho I love Reasonable Doubt its lower teir Classic in terms of Illmatic and Ready To Die so how in the FUCK are they 5 mics?

Is De La Soul Is Dead better than Aquemini? Is One For All better than Amerikkka's Most Wanted? Just because an album is better (all objective) doesn't mean it doesn't deserve 5 mics. Oh, and The Naked Truth got 5 mics, so that system is flawed anyway. I just use it loosely to rate albums based on my own opinion, and to me Em's first 3 albums are flawless, regardless if other albums are better, and there are.

 

[Gen. Stasia]

Biggies 2 Albums>>>>>>> Ems whole catalogue

Which is sad cuz Em has had more chances

 

[WilliamWallace1]

Did this nigga just say all three Eminem albums are 5 mics, bruh stop the fucking nonesense. I don't even consider Nas, Jay, Face second tier dope albums (IWW, Vol 1, American Gangster,Life is Good) classics and i know they all are better than SSLP,MMSHOW,MMLP.

Ya'll throw around the classic rating way too fucking much.

The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP, The Eminem Show - 5 mic albums. You trolling

 

[CracceR]

becos he talkin bout the real shyt like poppin pills

eminem>>>>>>god

 

[genocidecutter]

He's catalog is weak. Maybe top 50 for him

 

[usmarin3]

If Biggie can be one why cant Em?

U say he doesnt have any classics, I say he has 1.

U say his bad album is fucking terrible, I say its just not good.

Dude, Encore is fucking terrible and Relapse is slightly better. You can tell this fool was high off his ass when he made those albums.

As for classics, dude has never made that one album that changed the direction of hiphop imo. He just made popular music that them white boys in the burbs ate up. just like Limp Bizkit, Korn,Linkin Park,etc.

 

[Lab Baby]

5 mics =/= classic. Em has no classics, but they were perfect albums to me. Vol 2 was a classic IMO, but it wasn't a perfect album. Get what I'm saying?

 

[WilliamWallace1]

If Biggie can be one why cant Em?

U say he doesnt have any classics, I say he has 1.

U say his bad album is fucking terrible, I say its just not good.

Dude, Encore is fucking terrible and Relapse is slightly better. You can tell this fool was high off his ass when he made those albums.

As for classics, dude has never made that one album that changed the direction of hiphop imo. He just made popular music that them white boys in the burbs ate up. just like Limp Bizkit, Korn,Linkin Park,etc.

What Jay album changed the direction of Hip Hop? rappers like Kool G Rap, Reakwon, Ghostface, Notorious B.I.G were making Mafasi/Hustler albums better musically 1s ever before Jay Z did so with Reasonable Doubt? so how did Reasonable Doubt change the direction of Hip Hop?

 

[lamontbdc]

none of his music has stood the test of time except lose yourself and stan. Everything else in his catalog is dated. I can't call any of his albums classic. 3 5 mic albums is a total joke. Huh????

But i've alwasy chalked some shit up to him being white. Some of this cornball shit that I just can't listen to seems to be geared toward whitey. Nothing wrong with that I just can't fuck with it. I think there is a group that fucks with that cornball shit so to them it's classic, but to me it's skip this bullshit

 

[Gen. Stasia]

He's definitely a top 5 spitter in the game. Catalogue wise... not so much. 99-02 Em was on a GOAT run (all 3 albums are 5 mics, fuck a hater), but after that, son went downhill. Still had bars, but the drugs and the goofy shit fucked up his catalogue. And by the time he got to Recovery, he was spittin lines like "call me Elton John cuz I'm a mean cocksucker". So GOAT list, he's fallen from the 10th spot. But he's still one of my favorite MCs. I disagree with Encore being the worst album ever though, shit had some bangers on it.

None of those albums are better than Reasonable Doubt tho. And even tho I love Reasonable Doubt its lower teir Classic in terms of Illmatic and Ready To Die so how in the FUCK are they 5 mics?

Is De La Soul Is Dead better than Aquemini? Is One For All better than Amerikkka's Most Wanted? Just because an album is better (all objective) doesn't mean it doesn't deserve 5 mics. Oh, and The Naked Truth got 5 mics, so that system is flawed anyway. I just use it loosely to rate albums based on my own opinion, and to me Em's first 3 albums are flawless, regardless if other albums are better, and there are.

Ems albums aren't Classic because 1 they are not timeless and 2 they are not influential. How Em album came out Early 2000s but aged worst than albums its senior? (Other than Em Show which is his best album IMO but its still not better than other classics)

 

[usmarin3]

To each is own, but i don't think no album is perfect with tracks like DRIPS,WITHOUT ME, REAL SLIM SHADY,KIM,etc.

Those terrible ass singles and corny ass album cuts like drips ruin his albums

 

[Lab Baby]

I said it before, but we gotta stop letting the general consensus dictate how we think and who we think the best are. We're thinking off a flawed rating system and a mob mentality. So what millions of people think Em is a great, or Jay, or Wayne, or anyone for that matter? Fuck what people think. We got dudes in here that love ICP (no offense Genocide), and they get mad respect in my book. So if Em ain't a top 10 to you, that's cool. I got 3 good cases (4 if you count 8 Mile) to keep the debate going, but it don't bother me either way.

 

[Stew]

If Biggie can be one why cant Em?

U say he doesnt have any classics, I say he has 1.

U say his bad album is fucking terrible, I say its just not good.

Dude, Encore is fucking terrible and Relapse is slightly better. You can tell this fool was high off his ass when he made those albums.

As for classics, dude has never made that one album that changed the direction of hiphop imo. He just made popular music that them white boys in the burbs ate up. just like Limp Bizkit, Korn,Linkin Park,etc.

Half of Encore was dope to me so I don't call it terrible. Definitely not a good album.

I don't call of the classics that I think are classics "game changers" and I don't judge albums on how the public percieves them. The Eminem Show to me is classic and MMLP is 4.5 mics

 

[Lab Baby]

He's definitely a top 5 spitter in the game. Catalogue wise... not so much. 99-02 Em was on a GOAT run (all 3 albums are 5 mics, fuck a hater), but after that, son went downhill. Still had bars, but the drugs and the goofy shit fucked up his catalogue. And by the time he got to Recovery, he was spittin lines like "call me Elton John cuz I'm a mean cocksucker". So GOAT list, he's fallen from the 10th spot. But he's still one of my favorite MCs. I disagree with Encore being the worst album ever though, shit had some bangers on it.

None of those albums are better than Reasonable Doubt tho. And even tho I love Reasonable Doubt its lower teir Classic in terms of Illmatic and Ready To Die so how in the FUCK are they 5 mics?

Is De La Soul Is Dead better than Aquemini? Is One For All better than Amerikkka's Most Wanted? Just because an album is better (all objective) doesn't mean it doesn't deserve 5 mics. Oh, and The Naked Truth got 5 mics, so that system is flawed anyway. I just use it loosely to rate albums based on my own opinion, and to me Em's first 3 albums are flawless, regardless if other albums are better, and there are.

Ems albums aren't Classic because 1 they are not timeless and 2 they are not influential. How Em album came out Early 2000s but aged worst than albums its senior? (Other than Em Show which is his best album IMO but its still not better than other classics)

See my other response about 5 mic/classic albums.

To give you another example, Tribe Called Quest's first 3 albums are classics... no doubt. And they were perfect albums to me. Now on the other hand, Beats, Rhymes and Life is a perfect album IMO, but it doesn't get the props it deserves, mainly cuz it was compared to the other Tribe albums. It's actually my 2nd favorite next to MM. Not a popular opinion, but fuck it.

 

[DMTxTHC]

If Biggie can be one why cant Em?

U say he doesnt have any classics, I say he has 1.

U say his bad album is fucking terrible, I say its just not good.

Biggie's albums are better than Em's albums. Not to mention his catalogue had more influence on Hip-Hop.

Biggie's bars have been bitten hundreds of times, can you say the same for Em?

Biggie's beats have been used numerous times, a hell of a lot more times then Em's beats.

Biggie has been referenced a hell of a lot more times more than Em as well.

 

[DMTxTHC]

ATCQ got a great fuckin catalogue...

 

[Daddy_PeaceBuck$]

To each his own but the hate this white boy gets is ridiculous. Your fuckin favorite rapper don't want it with Em. Your fucking favorite rapper gives Em his props. He's first three albums are classics in my opinion. No one was spitting like he was at that time and if you noticed he got better with the flow on each album. Matter of fact his worst flow is better than half of yall IC rappers best flow. I think niggas are more jealous of Ems successs cuz no one was talkng shit when he first came out.

 

[andre_1024]

As far as catalogue, he's not..but you can make the argument that MMLP and/or TES are classic albums..

 

[Gen. Stasia]

Biggie started the whole formula driven album structure. But u can tell he wasn't forcing the formula that's why his albums came out dope.

 

[In Your Moms Room]

I mean. His debut album is one of the best albums of all time. Hands down classic. Timeless. Every track can still be played today and its just as good as it was in 1999.