How are we supposed to manage Masculinity in music?

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Hip hop is hyper masculine because its black culture an we have been raped an torn down so much we have to b macho an agressive
 
Kendrick both is and is not social justice. On one hand, he's the emancipation of black thought; but on the other he represents the struggle. In a way, he's the dichotomy of social justice balancing good and bad. As consequence of his artistry, many clones have arisen. This position is not just Kendrick's anymore.

So as men, sitting on a volatile position where our choices have dramatic effect, I wanna guage where you guys think we going musically, and more importantly, where you think we SHOULD be going
 
First of all, rappers shouldn't be looked at as role models. They might say thought provoking lyrics, but their job is to tour and perform at concerts. They're entertainers. There's nothing wrong with being an entertainer, but that's it. They're not politicians, doctors, stockbrokers, lawyers or policemen.

Don't look at rappers as role models. Their lives and image is all an illusion.

 
LUClEN;c-9910940 said:
Kendrick both is and is not social justice. On one hand, he's the emancipation of black thought; but on the other he represents the struggle. In a way, he's the dichotomy of social justice balancing good and bad. As consequence of his artistry, many clones have arisen. This position is not just Kendrick's anymore.

So as men, sitting on a volatile position where our choices have dramatic effect, I wanna guage where you guys think we going musically, and more importantly, where you think we SHOULD be going

Kendrick does not represent the state of rap he is the exception. I also think you are making observations that arent really there. Im a deep thinker but you are making too much of Kendrick and connecting him to the overall present culture
 
I guess the threadstarter is living vicariously through Kendrick. I was the same way as a teenager but you've got to grow up and realize that these rappers are just that; rappers.
 
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5 Grand;c-9910966 said:
First of all, rappers shouldn't be looked at as role models. They might say thought provoking lyrics, but their job is to tour and perform at concerts. They're entertainers. There's nothing wrong with being an entertainer, but that's it. They're not politicians, doctors, stockbrokers, lawyers or policemen.

Don't look at rappers as role models. Their lives and image is all an illusion.

Baabbbyy....that whole post just sent me to that divine entity and back! I can't remember the last time anyone made me feel it like that! Back like cataracts; his words were intact!

@"Beta", this is how you're suppose to turn it for me. Make me a believer and stop feeding me fallacies! Actually, this post got me on my knees like I'm Chinese!
 
You guys aren't buying this so let's retrace a bit then maybe I can show you where my view is coming from.

1. Kendrick has dominated sales from 2014 onwards. He exceeds his squad, and always conjures discussion. He is a name, where's Cole and Q are just side conversations. ''

2. Whether or not you think Kendrick is actually influencing people does not change the fact that he has a platform to do it and already has. I could be giving too much weight to his music as fas as gender influence is concerned, but presence is there, whether it is as effectual as I claim it is or not

3. This view is my own, i'll own any errors in it: What should I be wanting from rap, in your view? Where does the genre go from here?
 
LUClEN;c-9911261 said:
You guys aren't buying this so let's retrace a bit then maybe I can show you where my view is coming from.

1. Kendrick has dominated sales from 2014 onwards. He exceeds his squad, and always conjures discussion. He is a name, where's Cole and Q are just side conversations. ''

2. Whether or not you think Kendrick is actually influencing people does not change the fact that he has a platform to do it and already has. I could be giving too much weight to his music as fas as gender influence is concerned, but presence is there, whether it is as effectual as I claim it is or not

3. This view is my own, i'll own any errors in it: What should I be wanting from rap, in your view? Where does the genre go from here?

Its just music. Don't take it too seriously.

Go to school, get a degree.
 
5 Grand;c-9911264 said:
LUClEN;c-9911261 said:
You guys aren't buying this so let's retrace a bit then maybe I can show you where my view is coming from.

1. Kendrick has dominated sales from 2014 onwards. He exceeds his squad, and always conjures discussion. He is a name, where's Cole and Q are just side conversations. ''

2. Whether or not you think Kendrick is actually influencing people does not change the fact that he has a platform to do it and already has. I could be giving too much weight to his music as fas as gender influence is concerned, but presence is there, whether it is as effectual as I claim it is or not

3. This view is my own, i'll own any errors in it: What should I be wanting from rap, in your view? Where does the genre go from here?

Its just music. Don't take it too seriously.

Go to school, get a degree.

That's a weak argument. Same kind of view used to relegate black history to other histories
 
LUClEN;c-9911261 said:
You guys aren't buying this so let's retrace a bit then maybe I can show you where my view is coming from.

1. Kendrick has dominated sales from 2014 onwards. He exceeds his squad, and always conjures discussion. He is a name, where's Cole and Q are just side conversations. ''

2. Whether or not you think Kendrick is actually influencing people does not change the fact that he has a platform to do it and already has. I could be giving too much weight to his music as fas as gender influence is concerned, but presence is there, whether it is as effectual as I claim it is or not

3. This view is my own, i'll own any errors in it: What should I be wanting from rap, in your view? Where does the genre go from here?

What in the flying fuck does any of this shit you wrote got to do w/ masculinity.
 

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