How Actors Get a Pass on This But Not Musicians/Rappers?

[Scarface!]

The difference is actor's don't tell everybody that their movies are "the realest" and they really went through that or that's how they really are when the camera's stop rolling they are, key word: ACTING!. Musicians are actors as well I don't have a problem if an artist wants to flex their creative muscle and make a song about something that they may have never seen or went through but want to make a song about, my problem is when they do these things and when the mic's NOT recording try to portray themselves as somebody that they aren't. That's the difference.

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[Legend24]

The difference is actor's don't tell everybody that their movies are "the realest" and they really went through that or that's how they really are when the camera's stop rolling they are, key word: ACTING!. Musicians are actors as well I don't have a problem if an artist wants to flex their creative muscle and make a song about something that they may have never seen or went through but want to make a song about, my problem is when they do these things and when the mic's NOT recording try to portray themselves as somebody that they aren't. That's the difference.

We're discussing the freedoms and liberties that are extended to the artists within their respective field, not what they do outside of their profession. Actors and actresses get caught up in as much shit as rappers and other musicians (and get in shit for it, rightfully so), that's not what is being discussed. This is about the criticism they get for the content of their art... musicians get shit on but actors/directors/screenwriters get praise for the same content, just because it's a different medium.

 

[Mvpbrodie93]

Simply put- Denzel doesn't go everywhere acting like Alonzo Harris. This let's even the dumbest of the dumb know that's not the real him. Rick Ross or Jim Jones, etc... go EVERYWHERE portraying the same character, whether it's a talk show, parade, or your grandmom's b-day party.

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[idoitforhiphop10]

t/s is rite. like for example (pause in this statement im about to make), brokeback mountain was acclaimed film about a gay couple, i never saw it, and it garnered mad great reviews. but say if a rapper made a song about a gay couple in detail, their career would be over. its a double standard.

 

[Scarface!]

t/s is rite. like for example (pause in this statement im about to make), brokeback mountain was acclaimed film about a gay couple, i never saw it, and it garnered mad great reviews. but say if a rapper made a song about a gay couple in detail, their career would be over. its a double standard.

no its not.If a rapper made a song about two gays in love damn right they career would be over.Nobody wanna hear that bullshit. Actors are acting.Music is a reflection or is suppose to be.So if a rapper make a song about gays im going to automatically think he is a faggot

This kind of thinking is only making more people think it is acceptable for rappers to talk about being a gangsta but never even lived that type of lifestyle.Its bullshit for a rapper to make money and fame off of a lifestyle they never lived but most these rappers do

 

[nynicca]

Accountablility comes with responsiblity... I never heard ONE rapper in a interview seperate themself from the "Character" they're tryin to portray as a rapper. They claim that that is them... Denzel doesnt say that the cop in Training Day is him and he walks around with the same goatee and accent and demenor tryin to convince us other wise... If Rappers seperate them self and take responsiblity for who ever they are tryin to portray it would be a different story...

word rapers always talking bout keeping it real so hey

 

[Knives Amilli]

uppin.....

 

[Ounceman]

no its not.If a rapper made a song about two gays in love damn right they career would be over.Nobody wanna hear that bullshit. Actors are acting.Music is a reflection or is suppose to be.So if a rapper make a song about gays im going to automatically think he is a faggot

This kind of thinking is only making more people think it is acceptable for rappers to talk about being a gangsta but never even lived that type of lifestyle.Its bullshit for a rapper to make money and fame off of a lifestyle they never lived but most these rappers do

I disagree with the bolded. music isnt supposed to be anything. rather music is what u make it to be. i consider it to be more of an expression than a reflection. take world renowned jazz player ornette coleman for example. he's most famously known for making pivotal contributions to the free jazz style. a style that is characterized for not having a tonal center. so in other words, the music is all over the place. its very angular, dissonant,and unconventional. now u would think the person who made important strides to that kind of music's personality would be similar. he'd be very outspoken, energetic, abstract, and a little odd for people's liking. but if u ever seen or heard him in interviews, he's very soft spoken, laid-back, and a genuinely down to earth kind of person. but his interpretation of music was very different. he expressed it through a totally different idiom. and rightfully so. music shouldnt have any limitations on what u choose to do with it or how u choose to use it

 

[garv]

t/s is rite. like for example (pause in this statement im about to make), brokeback mountain was acclaimed film about a gay couple, i never saw it, and it garnered mad great reviews. but say if a rapper made a song about a gay couple in detail, their career would be over. its a double standard.

Who the fuck wanna hear a dong about a gay couple?

You have to know your audience and who your music is directed too, i'm pretty sure that the majority of people that went to see 'Brokeback mountain' weren't lower class black folks, and the audience these rappers are geared at don't want to hear that shit.

 

[nynicca]

Who the fuck wanna hear a dong about a gay couple?

You have to know your audience and who your music is directed too, i'm pretty sure that the majority of people that went to see 'Brokeback mountain' weren't lower class black folks, and the audience these rappers are geared at don't want to hear that shit.

brokeback mountain was a good movie

 

[garv]

brokeback mountain was a good movie

Hit a nerve did it.

 

[Legend24]

Movies & music arent entirely comparable in this context. No one is watching what the director is doing we're watching the actors to see what happens next. Directors can get away with shit b/c they're behind the scenes painting the picture.

Big name directors are just as famous as the popular actors/actresses these days. Everyone is watching what they're doing...

They just seem to get this creative pass that no one else is entitled to.

 

[Knives Amilli]

1. Movies are derived from theater. The concept of "actor", "acting" and "the stage" have long been ingrained in society and we've learned to accept that the characters we see on a movie are just roles meant to participate in a plot. We recognize that an actor is just taking on a role temporarily for a story.

2. Music as a whole has always caught shit as far as controversy goes. Everyone from the Beatles to Pac have been labeled as"degenerates poisoning the hearts and minds of teenagers across the land". Music is powerful stuff, one of the most purist form of expressions next to drawing imo. There's a reason why Christians have said that Satan was in charge of music, it's the only way they could rationalize the power (in their opinion dangerous power) that music has over the human mind.

3. As I stated in Brian B's thread, Rap defining characteristic is that it's supposed to be a window into the everyday life and struggles of African Americans. And rappers have thrived off of playing these cartoonish caricatures and have purposely neglected to inform the people that they may, just may be embellishing everyday life in their lyrics. And with the fans demanding "real rappers" and "real shit" from the industry, the line between street nigga and rapper playing a street nigga blurs more and more every year.

But im getting ahead of myself, basically Rap will always lose this argument because since this shit is " soooo REALL", how irresponsible and ignorant is it to promote the real life horrors that you face in your communities? We can argue about the effect of media night and day, but it's not out of the ball park to assume that rap in and of itself is an ouroboros of issues plaguing the hood.

 

[ChuckieInDaMurderAve]

It's very hypocritical of the media and rappers fully explain it. Just listen to Scarface's "Hand of the Dead Body" specially when he says "if you don't dig me then you can sue cause the shit that I be sayin' ain't worse than no western movie".

As for me, I watch movies with violent content the same way I listen to super violent hip-hop songs. Violence doesn't matter to me. I enjoy them equally but even more when hearing it.

I mean you can't say a rapper is too violent when he's just describing it and then give a movie that SHOWS the very same things on screen a pass.