Homeboy Sandman: "Black People Are Cowards."

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I didn't get the black ppl aint shit, I got that black ppl don't stand for things that affect them,

We accept alot of B.S. and don't take a stand for the shit that we should be taking a stand for...pretty much we are programmed to accept shit...

black people deserve all of the hate an malice we recieve though...and our broken and accepting spirits prove this...

Im probably one of the more pro black posters on here, and im sure I'll get a slew of negative reactions for this post, but we did this to ourselves. Now, this doesn't excuse the actions of the other nations, and th fact they so openly display their prejudices and actively participate in our opression will come back to haunt them. But we have to look t history and use it to determine how we got in this predicament.

we have to examine history, come to an agreement as to how we got here, what caused it, and.make sure we avoid those actions that gave birth to all this madness.

Im just as mad at the situation as the next man, and have made other posts in thi thread that express my outrage, but im all about personal accountability. If its been said before bruh is a racist, why hasn't it been brought to he forefront before now? Why are players, coaches, and fans willing to support this franchise with a racist owner? Oh, that right, money is involved smh...

Its due time to wake up from your sleep O Israel.....

This post is absolutely ridiculous.

You're not pro-Black. If you were, you wouldn't be saying that we deserve to bear the brunt of racist violence and white supremacy.

Our people have been resisting since we were brought to this country in chains.

I'm tired of y'all with your self-hate acting like you love niggas, but you don't.

answer this question.

If a child is disobedient, and is punished. that same child was told before hand what the punishment for disobedience would be. While pondering what happened, that child realizes that they were wrong and the thier punishment was caused by thier own actions. They then acknowledge tat they deserved it.

Is that self hate?

Yes or no?

Stop regurgitating rhetoric without thinking man....

It's funny that you tell me to think, when it's clear that you're not doing that.

Basically, what you're saying is that Black people deserve violence inflicted on them and deserve the pain of racism.

You're justifying our oppression.

And THAT, my brother, is self-hate.

1. You didnt answer the question. And actually, thats exactly what im doing. Did I ever say "accept the I'll will and hate that we receive because we deserve it." ?

No.

2. I said we deserve it because of the past. That doesn't mean let it continue. He racism and violence inflicted on us blacks didnt stem from anywhere. Im saying lets identify what caused it, and put an end to it. But not taking accountability I'd jot helping the cause. And without bring able to identify what we did to help get in this situation, we are doomed repeat the mistake.

NO on likes opressuon, myself included. But im done playing th vicim. We know racism exists. Its apparent. Call them out on it, take action to make it stop and keep moving forward. But dont say im expressing self hate becauro refuse to place all the blame in others lol...nah sis....

Yes, I answered your question.

And a huge eye roll to the rest of this shit.

It's annoying in these conversations how Black people think that other Black people are doing absolutely nothing but sitting on their hands and taking shit lying down.

What are black ppl doing in these situations?? let's take just one...the clippers one, what did Blake Griffin do..or better yet Doc Rivers (who lived in the time when the shit was just as bad as it is now)..what has Lebron done..or better yet, Obama?? I'll start with the ppl that have these platforms to do something, then I'll work down to us little ppl
 
KingSimba;6996806 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996770 said:
KingSimba;6996720 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996689 said:
KingSimba;6996679 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996668 said:
KingSimba;6996653 said:
Knock_Twice;6996613 said:
I didn't get the black ppl aint shit, I got that black ppl don't stand for things that affect them,

We accept alot of B.S. and don't take a stand for the shit that we should be taking a stand for...pretty much we are programmed to accept shit...

black people deserve all of the hate an malice we recieve though...and our broken and accepting spirits prove this...

Im probably one of the more pro black posters on here, and im sure I'll get a slew of negative reactions for this post, but we did this to ourselves. Now, this doesn't excuse the actions of the other nations, and th fact they so openly display their prejudices and actively participate in our opression will come back to haunt them. But we have to look t history and use it to determine how we got in this predicament.

we have to examine history, come to an agreement as to how we got here, what caused it, and.make sure we avoid those actions that gave birth to all this madness.

Im just as mad at the situation as the next man, and have made other posts in thi thread that express my outrage, but im all about personal accountability. If its been said before bruh is a racist, why hasn't it been brought to he forefront before now? Why are players, coaches, and fans willing to support this franchise with a racist owner? Oh, that right, money is involved smh...

Its due time to wake up from your sleep O Israel.....

This post is absolutely ridiculous.

You're not pro-Black. If you were, you wouldn't be saying that we deserve to bear the brunt of racist violence and white supremacy.

Our people have been resisting since we were brought to this country in chains.

I'm tired of y'all with your self-hate acting like you love niggas, but you don't.

answer this question.

If a child is disobedient, and is punished. that same child was told before hand what the punishment for disobedience would be. While pondering what happened, that child realizes that they were wrong and the thier punishment was caused by thier own actions. They then acknowledge tat they deserved it.

Is that self hate?

Yes or no?

Stop regurgitating rhetoric without thinking man....

It's funny that you tell me to think, when it's clear that you're not doing that.

Basically, what you're saying is that Black people deserve violence inflicted on them and deserve the pain of racism.

You're justifying our oppression.

And THAT, my brother, is self-hate.

1. You didnt answer the question. And actually, thats exactly what im doing. Did I ever say "accept the I'll will and hate that we receive because we deserve it." ?

No.

2. I said we deserve it because of the past. That doesn't mean let it continue. He racism and violence inflicted on us blacks didnt stem from anywhere. Im saying lets identify what caused it, and put an end to it. But not taking accountability I'd jot helping the cause. And without bring able to identify what we did to help get in this situation, we are doomed repeat the mistake.

NO on likes opressuon, myself included. But im done playing th vicim. We know racism exists. Its apparent. Call them out on it, take action to make it stop and keep moving forward. But dont say im expressing self hate becauro refuse to place all the blame in others lol...nah sis....

Yes, I answered your question.

And a huge eye roll to the rest of this shit.

It's annoying in these conversations how Black people think that other Black people are doing absolutely nothing but sitting on their hands and taking shit lying down.

is a child accepting punishment as a consequence of their previous actions self hate?

Yes or no?

Why do you keep using an analogy that doesn't adequately apply to this topic?
 
Knock_Twice;6996812 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996770 said:
KingSimba;6996720 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996689 said:
KingSimba;6996679 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996668 said:
KingSimba;6996653 said:
Knock_Twice;6996613 said:
I didn't get the black ppl aint shit, I got that black ppl don't stand for things that affect them,

We accept alot of B.S. and don't take a stand for the shit that we should be taking a stand for...pretty much we are programmed to accept shit...

black people deserve all of the hate an malice we recieve though...and our broken and accepting spirits prove this...

Im probably one of the more pro black posters on here, and im sure I'll get a slew of negative reactions for this post, but we did this to ourselves. Now, this doesn't excuse the actions of the other nations, and th fact they so openly display their prejudices and actively participate in our opression will come back to haunt them. But we have to look t history and use it to determine how we got in this predicament.

we have to examine history, come to an agreement as to how we got here, what caused it, and.make sure we avoid those actions that gave birth to all this madness.

Im just as mad at the situation as the next man, and have made other posts in thi thread that express my outrage, but im all about personal accountability. If its been said before bruh is a racist, why hasn't it been brought to he forefront before now? Why are players, coaches, and fans willing to support this franchise with a racist owner? Oh, that right, money is involved smh...

Its due time to wake up from your sleep O Israel.....

This post is absolutely ridiculous.

You're not pro-Black. If you were, you wouldn't be saying that we deserve to bear the brunt of racist violence and white supremacy.

Our people have been resisting since we were brought to this country in chains.

I'm tired of y'all with your self-hate acting like you love niggas, but you don't.

answer this question.

If a child is disobedient, and is punished. that same child was told before hand what the punishment for disobedience would be. While pondering what happened, that child realizes that they were wrong and the thier punishment was caused by thier own actions. They then acknowledge tat they deserved it.

Is that self hate?

Yes or no?

Stop regurgitating rhetoric without thinking man....

It's funny that you tell me to think, when it's clear that you're not doing that.

Basically, what you're saying is that Black people deserve violence inflicted on them and deserve the pain of racism.

You're justifying our oppression.

And THAT, my brother, is self-hate.

1. You didnt answer the question. And actually, thats exactly what im doing. Did I ever say "accept the I'll will and hate that we receive because we deserve it." ?

No.

2. I said we deserve it because of the past. That doesn't mean let it continue. He racism and violence inflicted on us blacks didnt stem from anywhere. Im saying lets identify what caused it, and put an end to it. But not taking accountability I'd jot helping the cause. And without bring able to identify what we did to help get in this situation, we are doomed repeat the mistake.

NO on likes opressuon, myself included. But im done playing th vicim. We know racism exists. Its apparent. Call them out on it, take action to make it stop and keep moving forward. But dont say im expressing self hate becauro refuse to place all the blame in others lol...nah sis....

Yes, I answered your question.

And a huge eye roll to the rest of this shit.

It's annoying in these conversations how Black people think that other Black people are doing absolutely nothing but sitting on their hands and taking shit lying down.

What are black ppl doing in these situations?? let's take just one...the clippers one, what did Blake Griffin do..or better yet Doc Rivers (who lived in the time when the shit was just as bad as it is now)..what has Lebron done..or better yet, Obama?? I'll start with the ppl that have these platforms to do something, then I'll work down to us little ppl

I don't focus on shit athletes are doing to make my case. There are Black people who are doing things all the time, as I have said: protesting against police brutality, racial profiling, unfair education practices.
 
Cunt_Lyfe;6996980 said:
KingSimba;6996806 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996770 said:
KingSimba;6996720 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996689 said:
KingSimba;6996679 said:
Cunt_Lyfe;6996668 said:
KingSimba;6996653 said:
Knock_Twice;6996613 said:
I didn't get the black ppl aint shit, I got that black ppl don't stand for things that affect them,

We accept alot of B.S. and don't take a stand for the shit that we should be taking a stand for...pretty much we are programmed to accept shit...

black people deserve all of the hate an malice we recieve though...and our broken and accepting spirits prove this...

Im probably one of the more pro black posters on here, and im sure I'll get a slew of negative reactions for this post, but we did this to ourselves. Now, this doesn't excuse the actions of the other nations, and th fact they so openly display their prejudices and actively participate in our opression will come back to haunt them. But we have to look t history and use it to determine how we got in this predicament.

we have to examine history, come to an agreement as to how we got here, what caused it, and.make sure we avoid those actions that gave birth to all this madness.

Im just as mad at the situation as the next man, and have made other posts in thi thread that express my outrage, but im all about personal accountability. If its been said before bruh is a racist, why hasn't it been brought to he forefront before now? Why are players, coaches, and fans willing to support this franchise with a racist owner? Oh, that right, money is involved smh...

Its due time to wake up from your sleep O Israel.....

This post is absolutely ridiculous.

You're not pro-Black. If you were, you wouldn't be saying that we deserve to bear the brunt of racist violence and white supremacy.

Our people have been resisting since we were brought to this country in chains.

I'm tired of y'all with your self-hate acting like you love niggas, but you don't.

answer this question.

If a child is disobedient, and is punished. that same child was told before hand what the punishment for disobedience would be. While pondering what happened, that child realizes that they were wrong and the thier punishment was caused by thier own actions. They then acknowledge tat they deserved it.

Is that self hate?

Yes or no?

Stop regurgitating rhetoric without thinking man....

It's funny that you tell me to think, when it's clear that you're not doing that.

Basically, what you're saying is that Black people deserve violence inflicted on them and deserve the pain of racism.

You're justifying our oppression.

And THAT, my brother, is self-hate.

1. You didnt answer the question. And actually, thats exactly what im doing. Did I ever say "accept the I'll will and hate that we receive because we deserve it." ?

No.

2. I said we deserve it because of the past. That doesn't mean let it continue. He racism and violence inflicted on us blacks didnt stem from anywhere. Im saying lets identify what caused it, and put an end to it. But not taking accountability I'd jot helping the cause. And without bring able to identify what we did to help get in this situation, we are doomed repeat the mistake.

NO on likes opressuon, myself included. But im done playing th vicim. We know racism exists. Its apparent. Call them out on it, take action to make it stop and keep moving forward. But dont say im expressing self hate becauro refuse to place all the blame in others lol...nah sis....

Yes, I answered your question.

And a huge eye roll to the rest of this shit.

It's annoying in these conversations how Black people think that other Black people are doing absolutely nothing but sitting on their hands and taking shit lying down.

is a child accepting punishment as a consequence of their previous actions self hate?

Yes or no?

Why do you keep using an analogy that doesn't adequately apply to this topic?

thats based on your opinion. I think it definitely applies.
 
Cunt_Lyfe;6996607 said:
So what was the point of this article, really?

All he's essentially saying is that Black people ain't shit.

It's basically anti-Black shit masquerading as "constructive observation".

I just have one question. Is he lying?
 
At first I pressed ether on the op cuz everybody else did, I didn't even read it

Now that I'm reading it, this niggas lame and his aim is off
 
The American Negro Male is a sit down and piss, timid, cowardly shameful effeminate, no backbone, disgraceful human being.

IT'S time for the last of a dying breed of black man, the lions, warriors, kings to stand up and take our rightful position of being Leaders, Protectors, warriors, father's, teacher's and lead the way
 
Here's an excellent counter-piece to that fuck shit a faux revolutionary nigga on Gawker wrote.

"There is nothing more irresponsible or inflammatory than placing the burden of remedying the racism and structural inequality on which the United States was built squarely at the feet of the marginalized.

Your lectures will not save us."


http://www.forharriet.com/2014/04/whos-coward-flawed-logic-of-faux.html?m=1
 
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He's right. I would've refused to play. Easy as that. But as I say that as a fan and not a player.

And this guy needs to learn that talking down to people to get them to do something doesnt work. If it did, every black and hispanic person would vote Republican
 
KingSimba;6996653 said:
Knock_Twice;6996613 said:
I didn't get the black ppl aint shit, I got that black ppl don't stand for things that affect them,

We accept alot of B.S. and don't take a stand for the shit that we should be taking a stand for...pretty much we are programmed to accept shit...

black people deserve all of the hate an malice we recieve though...and our broken and accepting spirits prove this...

Im probably one of the more pro black posters on here, and im sure I'll get a slew of negative reactions for this post, but we did this to ourselves. Now, this doesn't excuse the actions of the other nations, and th fact they so openly display their prejudices and actively participate in our opression will come back to haunt them. But we have to look t history and use it to determine how we got in this predicament.

we have to examine history, come to an agreement as to how we got here, what caused it, and.make sure we avoid those actions that gave birth to all this madness.

Im just as mad at the situation as the next man, and have made other posts in thi thread that express my outrage, but im all about personal accountability. If its been said before bruh is a racist, why hasn't it been brought to he forefront before now? Why are players, coaches, and fans willing to support this franchise with a racist owner? Oh, that right, money is involved smh...

Its due time to wake up from your sleep O Israel.....

My brother, who knows his cloth, I gladly stand in brotherhood with you
 
waterproof;6997086 said:
KingSimba;6996653 said:
Knock_Twice;6996613 said:
I didn't get the black ppl aint shit, I got that black ppl don't stand for things that affect them,

We accept alot of B.S. and don't take a stand for the shit that we should be taking a stand for...pretty much we are programmed to accept shit...

black people deserve all of the hate an malice we recieve though...and our broken and accepting spirits prove this...

Im probably one of the more pro black posters on here, and im sure I'll get a slew of negative reactions for this post, but we did this to ourselves. Now, this doesn't excuse the actions of the other nations, and th fact they so openly display their prejudices and actively participate in our opression will come back to haunt them. But we have to look t history and use it to determine how we got in this predicament.

we have to examine history, come to an agreement as to how we got here, what caused it, and.make sure we avoid those actions that gave birth to all this madness.

Im just as mad at the situation as the next man, and have made other posts in thi thread that express my outrage, but im all about personal accountability. If its been said before bruh is a racist, why hasn't it been brought to he forefront before now? Why are players, coaches, and fans willing to support this franchise with a racist owner? Oh, that right, money is involved smh...

Its due time to wake up from your sleep O Israel.....

My brother, who knows his cloth, I gladly stand in brotherhood with you

Todah ahk. Qam yasharahla!
 
Honestly, his polemic contained some salient points and a few truisms that are pretty obvious in this day & age, but his use of yellow journalism and motif of "black people are cowards" made his opinion venture from constructive to impolitic.

Victim blaming, invoking respectability politics and foolishly interjecting the social theory culture of poverty in place of the cycle of poverty at times, made the article not sit right with me. This is hardly a beacon of intellectualism and is counterproductive of his noble underlying message: We need to stop attacking and making life difficult for other blacks and instead uplift one another.

Admittedly, his idealistic vision is perfect in theory, but it isn't practical in the real world because it doesn't take into account for nor acknowledge systemic racism, and the fact that the cycle of poverty and obscurantism that plagues our people today is a direct result of that. We can't just instantly reverse that with "heroism", "valor" or "bravery" like in some movie or novel. There are power dynamics at play here in the real world.

His final two paragraphs really said everything that needed to be said, but I have a feeling that the sensationalism of the rest of the piece and the statements like "blacks are cowards" and "In all the history I’ve ever studied, in all the fiction I’ve ever read, I am hard pressed to find an example of cowardice to rival the modern day black American" were just added in there to cause a stir and make it a digestible read for non-blacks. Which is completely unnecessary and pandering for the sake of hits/attention.
 
It's not like he was lying. He could've been a little bit more tactful and choose his words better IMO. This way I think he has offended alot of blacks who'll internalize this instead of seeing the bigger picture and facing the facts.
 
earth two superman;6997081 said:
He's right. I would've refused to play. Easy as that. But as I say that as a fan and not a player.

And this guy needs to learn that talking down to people to get them to do something doesnt work. If it did, every black and hispanic person would vote Republican

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying he should water himself down, but he could've said the same thing but worded it in a way where people would take less offense IMO.

 


wtf is he talkin about? That dude got banned from the NBA for life, 2.5 mil fine, theyre going to try to force him out...The players would have been idiots to let that clown keep them from doing their jobs. Shock statement for attention.
 
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Nah, i'll pass

I'll pass on the black social commentary from Angel del Villar

I'll pass on the Tyler Perry and Reality tv cliches

I'll pass on the 'oh shyt, if u really think about it, he's right' reaction to an inflammatory title

And the reactions are like this is 'ether" smh See this is that Pharell 'new black' shyt lol I recently realized that half of you commenting are probably not even black. This thread is proof of that. Ima start tightenin my criteria. Ima need both parents' blood test before i even believe mfers b/c these 1 foot in, 1 foot out mfers are violatin. Inb4 afro domican, the original slaves, etc. Fuk that, Yall mfers aint black. Cant be.

 
Homie spit the unfiltered truth.... It hurts and folk will Nit pick and deflect. People today out money over pride dignity and self respect
 
As i said before he even said a word...

S2J;6996979 said:
...its not lost on me that this story has been goin 72 hours non stop (as it should), and theres only but so many ways u can say 'this is wrong and something needs to be done'...if its your JOB to stand out, Im keenly aware that stories will come out with people, see Bomani, tryin to be 'on some other shyt'.

I dont recognize yall's 'truth'. This tragic mulatto is not fooling me.
 
Can someone explain to me when (we) black people came together and decided we were going to be one? I'm going to let you know right now, the only ones I truly stand by and care about are my close ones, which is similar to how the world works. For me to extend my hand to others would put me at a disadvantage, and take away from the time I could be using to help the people I organically care about. Life is too short to waste time on people I don't know.

Also, why should I care how or why TM died? I know a bunch of TMs. Guess what happened when they got clapped?, no one cared!! TM's case was on his parents and his close ones and they did their job to make sure it was known. Good job to them, but that's where it ends.

... We need to start accepting the reality that most of us are in a position where the only ones we can afford to take care of or even care about is our close ones. There are a few outliers, but a lot of times you have to go against everything you (should) stand for to get there, so those people are useless to the black community.

There's reality, and there's theory. Theoretically we want to act as if we're one, but we're not on enough ourselves to even act on that theory. Take care of yourself and your family and if you can your extended family, and you're doing your job. If everyone does that, we'll rise in no time.
 
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