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ericb4prez;c-9620635 said:@The Recipe how you just going to no sign your own logic lol
The Recipe;c-9620639 said:He aint doing all the work himself as these niggas is breaking it down for yall, if a nigga has a ghost writer and aint doing all the work he lose all his points like Dre, Diddy, Ye and Drake right? So how do you get all your points when your in a duo doing half the work? Should he get half the points?
JonnyRoccIT;c-9620644 said:Has material spanning from the 90's to Today.? CHECK.
Has classic albums.? CHECK.
And he's not qualified to be considered a high ranking rapper because he has no solo..? Lol nigga moving the goal posts.
Let me know when we debating who's a better RAPPER...like the title and question says.
JonnyRoccIT;c-9620622 said:Lefty_;c-9620608 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620594 said:I think people forget that Dre debuted in 93 along with Nas and Biggie and other great artists of that era...
He literally outshines ANY artist he's on a song with...that's Crazy. You can't say that about Nas, Jay, Biggie, or LL
His Relevancy today with NO solo album is fucking amazing...
No other artist can send the entire internet into a Frenzy over a FEATURE brah.
He can take any trash song and give life to it.
"Kids" by Tribe was a Good example...the beat is Horrendous imo, but he made it Listenable and not the instant skip treatment
We would say the same about jadakiss if he never dropped an album. Jada features were the reason why everybody wanted a solo album. Same with dre, he just left niggas room to speculate. Bottom line, you aint in the convo wit no rings G.
Jada is dope...but c'mon brah he not fuckin w/ dre
Dre has 4, arguably FIVE rings...No one else in Hip Hop has that many Classics. That's also why i say they're the GOAT group of all time also.
Like i said...you can't discredit this man's Catalog just cause he doesn't have a solo project.
We talking SKILLS man..........SKILLSSSSSSS NIGGA
The Recipe;c-9620653 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620644 said:Has material spanning from the 90's to Today.? CHECK.
Has classic albums.? CHECK.
And he's not qualified to be considered a high ranking rapper because he has no solo..? Lol nigga moving the goal posts.
Let me know when we debating who's a better RAPPER...like the title and question says.
High ranking and the highest ranking are different arguments, niggas is saying he is the highest and thats a no from me dog.
Lefty_;c-9620655 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620622 said:Lefty_;c-9620608 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620594 said:I think people forget that Dre debuted in 93 along with Nas and Biggie and other great artists of that era...
He literally outshines ANY artist he's on a song with...that's Crazy. You can't say that about Nas, Jay, Biggie, or LL
His Relevancy today with NO solo album is fucking amazing...
No other artist can send the entire internet into a Frenzy over a FEATURE brah.
He can take any trash song and give life to it.
"Kids" by Tribe was a Good example...the beat is Horrendous imo, but he made it Listenable and not the instant skip treatment
We would say the same about jadakiss if he never dropped an album. Jada features were the reason why everybody wanted a solo album. Same with dre, he just left niggas room to speculate. Bottom line, you aint in the convo wit no rings G.
Jada is dope...but c'mon brah he not fuckin w/ dre
Dre has 4, arguably FIVE rings...No one else in Hip Hop has that many Classics. That's also why i say they're the GOAT group of all time also.
Like i said...you can't discredit this man's Catalog just cause he doesn't have a solo project.
We talking SKILLS man..........SKILLSSSSSSS NIGGA
Johnny.....Andre 3000 doesnt have a catalog to discredit, where are his rings, where are his duds, this nigga been playin double dutch wit a solo album since hey ya. He let his fans down because he a prima dona, you probably been waitin since like high school like "I know hes droppin this year, you just watch". He's the lookout for detox southern chapter..... he left yall shakin yall poloroid pictures on the project steps like a father that left for milk and never came back.
If he drop in 2017, and its a classic, he'll deserve consideration, until then, you cant say andre without big boi, but i can say big boi without andre because big boi actually put forth with his craft.
You dont get top 5 love without top 5 impact, them bum ass shoulder pads dont count. He gotta put it in a rap.
JonnyRoccIT;c-9620651 said:The Recipe;c-9620639 said:He aint doing all the work himself as these niggas is breaking it down for yall, if a nigga has a ghost writer and aint doing all the work he lose all his points like Dre, Diddy, Ye and Drake right? So how do you get all your points when your in a duo doing half the work? Should he get half the points?
What.?!?
Y'all making this wayyyy more complicated than it needs to be. Lol
IS ANDRE 3000 THE GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME.?
^^^
Please let's focus on the question at hand and lets not throw in unnecessary biased shit into this...SKILLS brah SKILLS...
The Recipe;c-9620641 said:ericb4prez;c-9620635 said:@The Recipe how you just going to no sign your own logic lol
Vanilla Ice bruh you a wild boy, Martin voice.
The Recipe;c-9620663 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620651 said:The Recipe;c-9620639 said:He aint doing all the work himself as these niggas is breaking it down for yall, if a nigga has a ghost writer and aint doing all the work he lose all his points like Dre, Diddy, Ye and Drake right? So how do you get all your points when your in a duo doing half the work? Should he get half the points?
What.?!?
Y'all making this wayyyy more complicated than it needs to be. Lol
IS ANDRE 3000 THE GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME.?
^^^
Please let's focus on the question at hand and lets not throw in unnecessary biased shit into this...SKILLS brah SKILLS...
Your trying to make something thats complicated simple so Andre meets the criteria. Its not simple to crown something or someone the greatest, all factors must be considered.
JonnyRoccIT;c-9620662 said:Lefty_;c-9620655 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620622 said:Lefty_;c-9620608 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620594 said:I think people forget that Dre debuted in 93 along with Nas and Biggie and other great artists of that era...
He literally outshines ANY artist he's on a song with...that's Crazy. You can't say that about Nas, Jay, Biggie, or LL
His Relevancy today with NO solo album is fucking amazing...
No other artist can send the entire internet into a Frenzy over a FEATURE brah.
He can take any trash song and give life to it.
"Kids" by Tribe was a Good example...the beat is Horrendous imo, but he made it Listenable and not the instant skip treatment
We would say the same about jadakiss if he never dropped an album. Jada features were the reason why everybody wanted a solo album. Same with dre, he just left niggas room to speculate. Bottom line, you aint in the convo wit no rings G.
Jada is dope...but c'mon brah he not fuckin w/ dre
Dre has 4, arguably FIVE rings...No one else in Hip Hop has that many Classics. That's also why i say they're the GOAT group of all time also.
Like i said...you can't discredit this man's Catalog just cause he doesn't have a solo project.
We talking SKILLS man..........SKILLSSSSSSS NIGGA
Johnny.....Andre 3000 doesnt have a catalog to discredit, where are his rings, where are his duds, this nigga been playin double dutch wit a solo album since hey ya. He let his fans down because he a prima dona, you probably been waitin since like high school like "I know hes droppin this year, you just watch". He's the lookout for detox southern chapter..... he left yall shakin yall poloroid pictures on the project steps like a father that left for milk and never came back.
If he drop in 2017, and its a classic, he'll deserve consideration, until then, you cant say andre without big boi, but i can say big boi without andre because big boi actually put forth with his craft.
You dont get top 5 love without top 5 impact, them bum ass shoulder pads dont count. He gotta put it in a rap.
Lmaooo again you not judging this on his raps and impact...you throwing Politics into the shit gahhhdamn brah. You not considering ALL that fucking material he has out spanning from 6 albums, 1 compilation, and A crazy amount of features just to say because he doesn't have anything to discredit
JonnyRoccIT;c-9620676 said:The Recipe;c-9620663 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620651 said:The Recipe;c-9620639 said:He aint doing all the work himself as these niggas is breaking it down for yall, if a nigga has a ghost writer and aint doing all the work he lose all his points like Dre, Diddy, Ye and Drake right? So how do you get all your points when your in a duo doing half the work? Should he get half the points?
What.?!?
Y'all making this wayyyy more complicated than it needs to be. Lol
IS ANDRE 3000 THE GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME.?
^^^
Please let's focus on the question at hand and lets not throw in unnecessary biased shit into this...SKILLS brah SKILLS...
Your trying to make something thats complicated simple so Andre meets the criteria. Its not simple to crown something or someone the greatest, all factors must be considered.
Lol the only thing that needs to be considered is his Skills and his Catalog...which he has a very extensive one to refer to.
Ol tryna reverse my shit ass nigga
The Recipe;c-9620687 said:WTT, Distant Relatives are never considered when talking Jay or Nas's status. NWA allbums are considered for Cube cuz he wrote 85% of it. Bow Down never gets mentioned while niggas are talking Cube. Point is group albums don carry as much weight.
Lefty_;c-9620693 said:If serena and venus won every single doubles match they ever played, and serena shined but always flirted with going solo, but never did. We had practice footage, and she even played a singles tournament, but no majors, we wouldnt dare say shes the best women player to ever play, that would be absurt.
Lefty_;c-9620677 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620662 said:Lefty_;c-9620655 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620622 said:Lefty_;c-9620608 said:JonnyRoccIT;c-9620594 said:I think people forget that Dre debuted in 93 along with Nas and Biggie and other great artists of that era...
He literally outshines ANY artist he's on a song with...that's Crazy. You can't say that about Nas, Jay, Biggie, or LL
His Relevancy today with NO solo album is fucking amazing...
No other artist can send the entire internet into a Frenzy over a FEATURE brah.
He can take any trash song and give life to it.
"Kids" by Tribe was a Good example...the beat is Horrendous imo, but he made it Listenable and not the instant skip treatment
We would say the same about jadakiss if he never dropped an album. Jada features were the reason why everybody wanted a solo album. Same with dre, he just left niggas room to speculate. Bottom line, you aint in the convo wit no rings G.
Jada is dope...but c'mon brah he not fuckin w/ dre
Dre has 4, arguably FIVE rings...No one else in Hip Hop has that many Classics. That's also why i say they're the GOAT group of all time also.
Like i said...you can't discredit this man's Catalog just cause he doesn't have a solo project.
We talking SKILLS man..........SKILLSSSSSSS NIGGA
Johnny.....Andre 3000 doesnt have a catalog to discredit, where are his rings, where are his duds, this nigga been playin double dutch wit a solo album since hey ya. He let his fans down because he a prima dona, you probably been waitin since like high school like "I know hes droppin this year, you just watch". He's the lookout for detox southern chapter..... he left yall shakin yall poloroid pictures on the project steps like a father that left for milk and never came back.
If he drop in 2017, and its a classic, he'll deserve consideration, until then, you cant say andre without big boi, but i can say big boi without andre because big boi actually put forth with his craft.
You dont get top 5 love without top 5 impact, them bum ass shoulder pads dont count. He gotta put it in a rap.
Lmaooo again you not judging this on his raps and impact...you throwing Politics into the shit gahhhdamn brah. You not considering ALL that fucking material he has out spanning from 6 albums, 1 compilation, and A crazy amount of features just to say because he doesn't have anything to discredit
Being in the top 5 transcends skills, you have to fill all the boxes.
He's a hall of famer, just not top tier, best rapper in a duo n all, but he missin somethin, nas has illmatic. Face got the diary, pac got MATW. all classics on they own 2. Dre cant walk in that room by himself, big boi might file a lawsuit if he do.
