Hip-HopDX - Biggie Ain't The GOAT

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Big was good at everything,classic albums,storytelling,radio hits,classic verses,kills features,classic songs.cmon sun.nigga had that it factor.it is what it is..he had future rap legends at the time.. hating on him when he was alive..he's the GOAT..and a trendsetter..now everybody wanna rock jesus pieces after he did it.how is he not the goat. Like I said big the goat.he did all this in 3,4 year span..sum mcs have 10+ years still can't do what he did to this day.

 
Of course you're gonna have mcs..have more songs,albums then him..bcuz well..he's dead..but the question is..were they dropping hits like big at the same time when he was alive..we're.were they dropping classic albums around that time too..only less then handful of mcs can say that and that's it.
 
Kendricks LPs don't even have replay value to me...

I bought good kid ,section 80, tpab ..listened to them 3 months straight..and now have no desire to revisit any of them

Ready to die and LAD still get spins
 
TheGOAT;c-9577914 said:
Didnt watch the vid but.....

Big had potential to be GOAT but career was cut too short. U cant compare 2 albums to other great MCs who have deep discogs

Life After Death had alot of filler... its not the masterpiece people say it is. Shoulda only been 1 disc

BIG still a legend but Greatest of All Time? He didnt live long enough for that title.

I put him in same breath as The D.O.C.

WHAT?!!?!?!?!?!?!

LAD is a classic from front to back.. SMH..

I am going to start asking posters' age around here.. Not as a form of disrespect... But I truly believe you can't go back and listen to an album years later and judge it.. You miss the whole context of the music. If you were a toddler in 97 when LAD dropped you can't really judge that album. You had to be a hip hop fan and listen to the stuff that came out prior to really understand the impact this album had on the culture. LAD, All Eyes On Me, No Way Out, In my Lifetime Vol 2, It's Dark and Hell is Hot, Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of my Blood. Helped move hip hop into the new millennium. Going back and listening to them now you miss a lot of the allure of that music. Because folks have built upon the foundations/precedents this music has set. So when you hear it after the fact the impact isn't the same.
 
EmM HoLLa.;c-9578378 said:
TheGOAT;c-9577914 said:
Didnt watch the vid but.....

Big had potential to be GOAT but career was cut too short. U cant compare 2 albums to other great MCs who have deep discogs

Life After Death had alot of filler... its not the masterpiece people say it is. Shoulda only been 1 disc

BIG still a legend but Greatest of All Time? He didnt live long enough for that title.

I put him in same breath as The D.O.C.

WHAT?!!?!?!?!?!?!

LAD is a classic from front to back.. SMH..

I am going to start asking posters' age around here... blah blah blah...

No its not a perfect album

Yes it is a classic... but front to back?.... no

And im 28yr old. Been down with this rap shit since i 1st heard GFunk Era in elementary school... ive done my rap homework before Google existed B
 
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TheGOAT;c-9578428 said:
EmM HoLLa.;c-9578378 said:
TheGOAT;c-9577914 said:
Didnt watch the vid but.....

Big had potential to be GOAT but career was cut too short. U cant compare 2 albums to other great MCs who have deep discogs

Life After Death had alot of filler... its not the masterpiece people say it is. Shoulda only been 1 disc

BIG still a legend but Greatest of All Time? He didnt live long enough for that title.

I put him in same breath as The D.O.C.

WHAT?!!?!?!?!?!?!

LAD is a classic from front to back.. SMH..

I am going to start asking posters' age around here... blah blah blah...

No its not a perfect album

Yes it is a classic... but front to back?.... no

And im 28yr old. Been down with this rap shit since i 1st heard GFunk Era in elementary school... ive done my rap homework before Google existed B

Okay.. Humor me.. For Debate sake.. LAD has 24 tracks.. Which tracks would you remove from the album?
 
270crownst;c-9578316 said:
Big was good at everything,classic albums,storytelling,radio hits,classic verses,kills features,classic songs.cmon sun.nigga had that it factor.it is what it is..he had future rap legends at the time.. hating on him when he was alive..he's the GOAT..and a trendsetter..now everybody wanna rock jesus pieces after he did it.how is he not the goat. Like I said big the goat.he did all this in 3,4 year span..sum mcs have 10+ years still can't do what he did to this day.

You didn't lnclude sales and star power...He's the most complete MC ever.started out on top of the game and died on top of the game.Big the only MC that ticked every Goat Statistical category box before he was snatched from us.

The man single handedly brought hiphop back to the east from the realms of the west while all these other MCs y'all say are better than Big allowed hiphop to be mumbled and did nothing about it..
 
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EmM HoLLa.;c-9578443 said:
TheGOAT;c-9578428 said:
EmM HoLLa.;c-9578378 said:
TheGOAT;c-9577914 said:
Didnt watch the vid but.....

Big had potential to be GOAT but career was cut too short. U cant compare 2 albums to other great MCs who have deep discogs

Life After Death had alot of filler... its not the masterpiece people say it is. Shoulda only been 1 disc

BIG still a legend but Greatest of All Time? He didnt live long enough for that title.

I put him in same breath as The D.O.C.

WHAT?!!?!?!?!?!?!

LAD is a classic from front to back.. SMH..

I am going to start asking posters' age around here... blah blah blah...

No its not a perfect album

Yes it is a classic... but front to back?.... no

And im 28yr old. Been down with this rap shit since i 1st heard GFunk Era in elementary school... ive done my rap homework before Google existed B

Okay.. Humor me.. For Debate sake.. LAD has 24 tracks.. Which tracks would you remove from the album?

- Fuck You 2nite ft RKelly

- Last Day ft Lox

- Love the Dough ft Jay Z

- B.I.G. Interlude

- Another ft Lil Kim

- The World is Filled ft Too Short & Puffy

- Playa Hater
 
TheGOAT;c-9578537 said:
EmM HoLLa.;c-9578443 said:
TheGOAT;c-9578428 said:
EmM HoLLa.;c-9578378 said:
TheGOAT;c-9577914 said:
Didnt watch the vid but.....

Big had potential to be GOAT but career was cut too short. U cant compare 2 albums to other great MCs who have deep discogs

Life After Death had alot of filler... its not the masterpiece people say it is. Shoulda only been 1 disc

BIG still a legend but Greatest of All Time? He didnt live long enough for that title.

I put him in same breath as The D.O.C.

WHAT?!!?!?!?!?!?!

LAD is a classic from front to back.. SMH..

I am going to start asking posters' age around here... blah blah blah...

No its not a perfect album

Yes it is a classic... but front to back?.... no

And im 28yr old. Been down with this rap shit since i 1st heard GFunk Era in elementary school... ive done my rap homework before Google existed B

Okay.. Humor me.. For Debate sake.. LAD has 24 tracks.. Which tracks would you remove from the album?

- Fuck You 2nite ft RKelly

- Last Day ft Lox

- Love the Dough ft Jay Z

- B.I.G. Interlude

- Another ft Lil Kim

- The World is Filled ft Too Short & Puffy

- Playa Hater

You can add about 4 more bruh
 
Moore7s;c-9576364 said:
Although there wasn't political or religious commentary on Ready to Die he definitely went deeper than materialism.

"Things Done Changed" is one of the most vivid depictions of the crack epidemic, all these lyrical miracle conscious #woke MCs couldn't pull that shit off to save their lives.

"EITHER YOU'RE SLINGIN CRACK ROCK, OR YOU GOT A WICKED JUMPSHOT"
 
EyeofAsaru;c-9578327 said:
Kendricks LPs don't even have replay value to me...

I bought good kid ,section 80, tpab ..listened to them 3 months straight..and now have no desire to revisit any of them

Ready to die and LAD still get spins

Kendrick's music always get spins at homecomings when it's time to show love to alumni from the West Coast. I've been to quite a few HBCU homecomings. Same thing with Biggie. Just my personal observation.

 
EmM HoLLa.;c-9578378 said:
TheGOAT;c-9577914 said:
Didnt watch the vid but.....

Big had potential to be GOAT but career was cut too short. U cant compare 2 albums to other great MCs who have deep discogs

Life After Death had alot of filler... its not the masterpiece people say it is. Shoulda only been 1 disc

BIG still a legend but Greatest of All Time? He didnt live long enough for that title.

I put him in same breath as The D.O.C.

WHAT?!!?!?!?!?!?!

LAD is a classic from front to back.. SMH..

I am going to start asking posters' age around here.. Not as a form of disrespect... But I truly believe you can't go back and listen to an album years later and judge it.. You miss the whole context of the music. If you were a toddler in 97 when LAD dropped you can't really judge that album. You had to be a hip hop fan and listen to the stuff that came out prior to really understand the impact this album had on the culture. LAD, All Eyes On Me, No Way Out, In my Lifetime Vol 2, It's Dark and Hell is Hot, Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of my Blood. Helped move hip hop into the new millennium. Going back and listening to them now you miss a lot of the allure of that music. Because folks have built upon the foundations/precedents this music has set. So when you hear it after the fact the impact isn't the same.

I was 16 when LAD dropped and I have to agree. It was a good album, but it had a little clutter. RTD was better, in my opinion. RTD is an album I can listen to without skipping a song. I can't say the same for LAD.

And I purchased all the albums you mentioned from the Best Buy next to my high school on the release dates. Great albums and sounds better than 90 % of the new stuff today. I miss those days.

 
R.D.;c-9578872 said:
Kendrick is a better rapper than Big

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TheGOAT;c-9578537 said:
EmM HoLLa.;c-9578443 said:
TheGOAT;c-9578428 said:
EmM HoLLa.;c-9578378 said:
TheGOAT;c-9577914 said:
Didnt watch the vid but.....

Big had potential to be GOAT but career was cut too short. U cant compare 2 albums to other great MCs who have deep discogs

Life After Death had alot of filler... its not the masterpiece people say it is. Shoulda only been 1 disc

BIG still a legend but Greatest of All Time? He didnt live long enough for that title.

I put him in same breath as The D.O.C.

WHAT?!!?!?!?!?!?!

LAD is a classic from front to back.. SMH..

I am going to start asking posters' age around here... blah blah blah...

No its not a perfect album

Yes it is a classic... but front to back?.... no

And im 28yr old. Been down with this rap shit since i 1st heard GFunk Era in elementary school... ive done my rap homework before Google existed B

Okay.. Humor me.. For Debate sake.. LAD has 24 tracks.. Which tracks would you remove from the album?

- Fuck You 2nite ft RKelly

- Last Day ft Lox

- Love the Dough ft Jay Z

- B.I.G. Interlude

- Another ft Lil Kim

- The World is Filled ft Too Short & Puffy

- Playa Hater

I disagree with this.. My man said Last Day is clutter? Lol.. I don't think there is much to discuss honestly.. I respect your opinion but I disagree.

All I can say is go back and listen to the lyrics on those songs.. Especially last Day and love the Dough..
 
Last day?!! Last day was one of the best song on lad..and one of the best verse he spits on the albumUhh, uhh, uhh

Who the fuck wanna squeeze?

My Desert Ease make MC's freeze

You wakin up in cold sweats, they just dreams

You still apoligizin, analyzin, my size and your size and

realizin, a fist fight would be asinine

You just pop wines I must pop nines

Genuine steel piece, nozzle in your grill piece

You're shook up, two bricks, every cook up

We can hook up, all I see is the future

Disrespect, I shoot ya

By the way, them bricks, get flipped weekly

Sold by soldiers that mix weed with the leak leak

Die for a dollar nigga, life ain't sweet

Play for keeps wet shirts with experts on the creep

I be the mob fiance, about to marry it

Illegal transactions in Farragut with Arabics

Why not, they fit twelve up in the bedroom

Imagine what they stash is like, make you a classic like

my first LP, beef with me is unhealthy

Fuck around and get an ul-cer, loose your pulse or

collapsed lung, look how many gats I brung

For them homos, still doin promos

Break both your legs you're movin slow-mo, got shined to glow mo'

Nine hundred and ninety six grams, you need for mo'

Ya niggas is tripping foreal on the reason
 

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