BiblicalAtheist
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parallelrhymes;1448120 said:
With no chance of parole.
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With no chance of parole.
its over: 2012!;1448104 said:Because 'Hell' is not punishment, for crimes?
It's just a place you go to when refusing to accept/believe in him, who is, the ONLY way to get to Heaven.
Alright, but if someone doesn't believe in Jesus is it fair to give them infinite punishment for this finite decision?
Or is it fair to send someone to the infinite punishment of hell if they never even heard of this Jesus?
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parallelrhymes;1448120 said:At the end of the day though no matter what you go to Hell for the reasons are finite...not like people are living infinite lives.
If you didn't believe in God at any point in your life and you lived to be 70 years old then logically you should only go to Hell for 70 years
Well put . . .
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its over: 2012!;1448136 said:Not really, when the 70 years of life are not what you are gauged by.
You are gauged by something far greater, than those years, which explains why having Faith is the pinnacle for rewarding us.
What are we gauged by?
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BiblicalAtheist
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parallelrhymes;1448139 said:word...but if there was a chance and you just so happened to die in a plane crash with a group of lawyers you'd be in pretty good shape
From one perspective it kind of makes sense, because if you live your life believing there is not god, no heaven dat dat dat, why would you go to a heaven if you don't even believe there is one? Idk, I have a different perspective on heaven/hell anyway.
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BiblicalAtheist
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parallelrhymes;1448180 said:My own personal belief is that what you follow in life is what will become of your afterlife...not like anyone can prove that wrong, dead people are WOAT at completing research
Lol at that last part
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oliverlang
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parallelrhymes;1448148 said:bruh I'm on my Mt. Olympus GOAT shyt...you can't fathom what I'm fathoming right now
lmao.........
its over: 2012!;1448104 said:Remember, God put each of his here on Earth for reason, and one reason only; For his Pleasure.
What a punk ass god that makes people suffer for his own pleasure and self-serving purposes.
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BiblicalAtheist
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parallelrhymes;1448197 said:How is not accepting Jesus in your life on Earth an infinite decision? What about once you are in the afterlife you get the confirmation that there is in fact a God and you made the wrong decision whilst on earth?
But if you don't even believe in that stuff why would you even get that opportunity? Maybe you'd just be thrown into a nothingness and be none the wiser?
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its over: 2012!;1448185 said:its an infinite decision, just like Noah's Ark. If you didn't believe when Noah yelled, "all aboard!" then there ain't changing your mind once you find yourself doing the backstroke 3,000 feet above sea level
Jesus doesn't seem very good at redemption if only the Christians are being saved and everyone else is doing the backstroke 3,000 feet above sea level. Doesn't seem just to me.
At the end of the day, it's still a finite decision not worthy of inifinite punishment.
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oliverlang
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its over: 2012!;1448214 said:well hey...at least you're staying true to Satan's doctrine of how the mind shouldn't believe, what the eyes can't see
well, i don't see oxygen but I believe it's there because there is proof of it's existence.
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universaltruth
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The concept of hell in and of itself is a contradiction to me, for no man does wrong just to spite god or for the lolz, they do it because they think its right/acceptable. Plus, some things are morally ambigious, how could you judge whether or not a man deserves infinite punshment?
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universaltruth
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its over: 2012!;1448228 said:your theory puts the cart, before the horse, and appears laden with deceit.
Christianity comes, after believing. Everyone has a chance to believe a chance to be saved a chance to have Eternal Life, and must then face the consequences when choosing not to...
My friend, some people were born Muslim, Mormon, etc., just as im assuming you were born christian. After years of believing in this particular religion, someone comes along with claims of another religions rightness, would you change your beliefs in that situation?
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its over: 2012!;1448228 said:your theory puts the cart, before the horse, and appears laden with deceit.
Christianity comes, after believing. Everyone has a chance to believe a chance to be saved a chance to have Eternal Life, and must then face the consequences when choosing not to...
It's a finite decision, infinite punishment is unjust.
I don't see how an uncontacted tribe or people would have (or would have had) the chance to learn of Jesus. Does Jesus appear to these people in a vision or what?
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BiblicalAtheist
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parallelrhymes;1448215 said:Because if God is in fact real he seems like the type of person that would want to rub it in your face...probably try to be nice at first and start with "My son, I laid the path before you but you chose to wonder off" make you feel bad right before he sent you to an infinite shit hole
But if you don't even believe said god exists, would you even accept that meeting as real or would you rationalize it is a fantastical delusion?
I don't think it would go down like that though.
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C.Melendez
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its over: 2012!;1448185 said:its infinite punishment for an infinite decision, just like Noah's Ark. If you didn't believe when Noah yelled, "all aboard!" then there ain't changing your mind once you find yourself doing the backstroke 3,000 feet above sea level.
And remember too, the ignorant won't go to Hell...God is not going to punish you, if you did not come into a fold you weren't aware of.
Sooooo they get to go to heaven without putting in anywork??? Maybe committed the most heinous crimes....but because you tell me about something I have no physical proof of...I go to hell for not believing? To me I said many times "God show me some type of proof like he did with the bible characters....and until then Im not believing in it ....soooo since I asked for a sign and he shows none,can I be punished for that
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universaltruth
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parallelrhymes;1448262 said:I've always wondered that as well...
Do people that are literally never exposed to God, The Word, whatever you want to call it, go to Hell?
They couldnt, that cannot be justified
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its over: 2012!;1448185 said:And remember too, the ignorant won't go to Hell...God is not going to punish you, if you did not come into a fold you weren't aware of.
So, it's best to repress the word of God so that everyone is ignorant of it and everyone goes to heaven, right?
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Hyde Parke
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universaltruth;1448244 said:My friend, some people were born Muslim, Mormon, etc.,
you are not born any of those things.
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universaltruth
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parallelrhymes;1448281 said:Yes but what about if said people worshipped another deity...would they not have to go to Hell because they were under the influences of a "false god"?
They wouldnt know any better, spending your entire life believing in said false deity will make you think that this is the only god possible, this is how they were raised. Thats like tryin to tell a Christian that we all follow the same god, or telling a Mormon that Joseph Smith or wateva his name was was lying his ass off, they wont listen because thats what they have come to strongly believe after many years
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universaltruth
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Hyde Parke;1448315 said:you are not born any of those things.
your right, raised would be the better word
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