Heat vs Bulls: WHO YA GOT?

[bless the child]

People do realize that Miami picked apart Boston's defense right? Who was Boston's defense coach last season? Exactly, Miami is going to see some of the same shit they saw against Boston, in this series.

 

[big_chris67]

People do realize that Miami picked apart Boston's defense right? Who was Boston's defense coach last season? Exactly, Miami is going to see some of the same shit they saw against Boston, in this series.

And you do realize that Boston was nowhere as good as Chicago is on Defense and Boston may still use some of Thibs defensive plays but the Bulls make them work. Miami played against Chicago's Def 3x's in the regular season and lost all 3 games

 

[Crude_]

Deng who can put up 20? The same guy with ben gordon that led the bulls to the 2nd round of the playoffs and put up 22 and 8? Boozer the guy that was an all star with deron williams who is a better point guard? Deron the same guy who had ronnie brewer putting up 13 ppg but now brewer can only put up 6 with rose? Yea it's rose who is the average point guard who makes these players look worse than they actually are.

Boozer is more of a numbers guy who is undersized and not very athletic at the power forward position. There is a reason Utah let him go and that is because Paul Milsap is basically the same player with similar numbers and a lot cheaper. Boozer has always been more of numbers guy to me. I watch that series a few years ago when Chicago beat Miami to go to the second round and eventually get beat by the Pistons. Kirk Hinrich, Andres Nocioni, and Ben Gordon were pretty much the unquestioned leaders of that squad. Yea Deng would have a good game here and there but they go out of that round due to Skiles defensive scheme Hinrich and Gordon's shooting along with Nocioni's shooting and occasional dirty play from him as well. Deng was about the third or fourth option on that team.

 

[Robert TOWNsend]

Boozer is more of a numbers guy who is undersized and not very athletic at the power forward position.

So if he is a numbers guy, why is he putting up way worse numbers with rose than with deron? Because deron is a great point guard and better player.

There is a reason Utah let him and that is because Paul Milsap is basically the same player with similar numbers and a lot cheaper.

I guess there isn't much difference between 17 and 7 and boozer putting up basically 20 and 11 in his last year in utah.

Boozer has always been more of numbers guy to me. I watch that series a few years ago when Chicago beat Miami to go to the second round and eventually get beat by the Pistons. Kirk Hinrich, Andres Nocioni, and Ben Gordon were pretty much the unquestioned leaders of that squad. Yea Deng would have a good game here and there

averaging 22 and 8 is having a good game here and there? Excuses for rose nigga, excuses.

but they go out of that round due to Skiles defensive scheme Hinrich and Gordon's shooting along with Nocioni's shooting and occasional dirty play from him as well. Deng was about the third or fourth option on that team.

third or fourth option putting up 22 and 8? With those numbers you would think the bulls put up 130 a game.

lol niggas got excuses for rose

 

[bless the child]

And you do realize that Boston was nowhere as good as Chicago is on Defense and Boston may still use some of Thibs defensive plays but the Bulls make them work. Miami played against Chicago's Def 3x's in the regular season and lost all 3 games

They run the same shit, thats the point. The Heat had trouble with that SAME Thibs D during the regular season against Boston, playoffs come and all bets were off. Same shit with that Bulls D. I'd like to see how you guys stop D-wade and Lebron. It's gonna look just like that Boston series. You don't have the one on one players to stop either one of them, and you cant risk doubling them because the other will be lurking and waiting. So if you're going to rely on Bogans and Brewer, both offensive liabilities, and Korver the worse defender of the three of them to contain D-wade and Bron....GOOD LUCK!

Not to mention your boy D-rose is out here shooting 41 percent 9-23 per game.

 

[usmarin3]

Miami needs to play with size in this series, Boozer doesn't play well with taller players on him and you need to shoot blocking for Rose. I wouldn't be surprise if Eric Dampier gets quality minutes in this series. The only way i see Bulls having a chance is if they win the boards, because Miami is gonna lock up their 3 point shooters.

 

[Robert TOWNsend]

Brewer Started wit the jazz he he does not start wit the bulls

Boozer has been hurt or inconsistent all year and he dont play D so he gets benched you just lookin up stats you have no idea what u talkin about

Brewer played 22 mpg and put up 6 pg, with deron he played 27 and put up 12. No difference there?
Boozer played 59 games and looked inconsistent all year? You know why he looked inconsistent all year? Because he was playing with rose and not deron who is a better point guard, point proven.

 

[bless the child]

Brewer Started wit the jazz he he does not start wit the bulls

Boozer has been hurt or inconsistent all year and he dont play D so he gets benched you just lookin up stats you have no idea what u talkin about

What do that have to do wit anything? Bulls aint boston

It's the same shit. Ya'll dont have any players to guard the perimeter, and the two that are decent hurts your offense. The team D is superb, just like Boston's team D. When it came to stopping D-wade or Bron in one on one situations?? Forget about it....

 

[Crude_]

No excuse for Rose. I'm just stating my opinion. Boozer is always been a numbers guy and you are not going to make me think any different. As far as his decline in numbers that due to teams getting the que and playing taller athletic big men on him. Boozer missed like 40 games so I think that not a fair comparison on the regular season numbers, but even with that theres not a huge difference in 17 and 7 and 20 and 11.

You ask 80-90% of league GMs which guy they'd rather have as a starting point guard on there roster an I guarantee you most would say Rose over D Will.

Man I watched Miami-Bulls series. I think it was either 06 or 07, and Deng was not the go to guy on that squad it was Gordon. Yes Deng had a good series, but by your logic if he was so good then why wasn't he shining like that in the 4 years after that prior to Rose getting here. My answer would be due to his injuries and in that Miami series he played a little above his head and Miami just picked their poision and it happened to be him. Gordon was far superior scorer than him and the team number one option imo.

You acting like Deng is superstar or even constant all star level player. He is a really good player but a third or fourth option at best on any championship caliber squad.

 

[Robert TOWNsend]

No excuse for Rose. I'm just stating my opinion. Boozer is always been a numbers guy and you are not going to make me think any different. As far as his decline in numbers that due to teams getting the que and playing taller athletic big men on him. Boozer missed like 40 games so I think that not a fair comparison on the regular season numbers, but even with that theres not a huge difference in 17 and 7 and 20 and 11.

Boozer played like 78 games his last year in utah while millsap played 76 this year. There is a huge difference between those numbers, not only is it 3 points scoring average, but 4 boards can be a 16 point swing, so it can be an 19 point difference depending on who on boozer team scores.

You ask 80-90% of league GMs which guy they'd rather have as a starting point guard on there roster an I guarantee you most would say Rose over D Will.

80% of gm's barely have jobs for more than 4 years because they make stupid moves continuously, irrelevant point.

Man I watched Miami-Bulls series. I think it was either 06 or 07, and Deng was not the go to guy on that squad it was Gordon.

Lol i never said deng was the go to guy, but he was the secondary offensive option , which was my point.

Yes Deng had a good series, but by your logic if he was so good then why wasn't he shining like that in the 4 years after that prior to Rose getting here.

Lol what? He put up better numbers before rose, wtf are you talkin about bruh?

My answer would be due to his injuries and in that Miami series he played a little above his head and Miami just picked their poision and it happened to be him. Gordon was far superior scorer than him and the team number one option imo.

Never said deng was the number one option, i said he and gordon led them, which they did.

You acting like Deng is supperstar or even constant all star level player. He is a really good player but a third or fourth option at best on any championship caliber squad.

Word, me saying everything i said is me acting like he is a super star, just a rose apologist looking for excuses. Kevin love would also be a third option on a championship team, bosh is going to be the third option on a championship team, pick between allen,pierce, or garnett about who was the third option. Your point doesn't take away from aything i said, it makes zero sense.

Rose apologists lose

 

[Robert TOWNsend]

Deron williams is a better pg than rose tell me somethin I dont know.Thats why boozer looked better

Brewer started wit the jazz, played more minutes a game,took more shots yet you comparing his bench role wit the bulls where he's brought here to play defense thats why he dont start

27 mpg and 22 are no different, just excuses.

 

[bless the child]

Deron williams is a better pg than rose tell me somethin I dont know.Thats why boozer looked better

Brewer started wit the jazz, played more minutes a game,took more shots yet you comparing his bench role wit the bulls where he's brought here to play defense thats why he dont start

People just said this same thing about the hawks and they got shut down

Bulls beat the heat with lebron and wade twice and held them to 89 and 87 when they averaged 102

Heat look better than they are cuz they played the wack sixers and an old C's team who jagged every game

They aint moppin the bulls and if boozer ball like he did last night they will lose to the bulls

Wade or lebron will have to guard rose and will not be killin on offense cuz of that

Hawks perimeter players are nowhere near as scary as the Heat's, you know that. Regular season wont mean shit. D-wade and Lebron are the two best players on the court in this series. That gotta count for something. D-wade is shooting 48 percent, Bron, 47 percent, D-rose??? 41 percent. I'll take quality over quantity any day. The Heat played two tough defensive teams in route to the ECF, the Bulls havent seen one yet and they still struggled. Both of those series prepared the Heat for this series.

Wade or Bron don't have to guard Rose, they just have to do what Boston did to them last year. Let Rose score and shut down everybody else.

 

[Crude_]

Rose apologists lose

We just got to agree to disagree I guess on this. I will say this and this is purely MY OPINION.

I'd take ROSE OVER ANY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE NOT named Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, or Dirk Nowitski. I think he is damn near is good as D Wade in all aspects with the EXCEPTION of the defensive end. I will say he does get beat a lot on defense Jeff Teague was scoring way more than he should have been when Rose was guarding him.

 

[thatni99ajahmal]

Bless the child been on a mean losin streak wit your bulls predictions you made several predictions pertaining to the bulls that were wrong

You a bandwagon fan and your opinion holds no weight.

Bulls will not get mopped by the heat if boozer play good the heat gonna lose

Lol @ dickriding a team that you did not acknowledge last year you and several posters son ya selves everytime you talk about the heat

Bruh your so bias its not even funny..

 

[thatni99ajahmal]

We just got to agree to disagree I guess on this. I will say this and this is purely MY OPINION.

I'd take ROSE OVER ANY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE NOT named Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, or Dirk Nowitski. I think he is damn near is good as D Wade in all aspects with the EXCEPTION of the defensive end. I will say he does get beat a lot on defense Jeff Teague was scoring way more than he should have been when Rose was guarding him.

Nigga Dwade is way more efficient than Rose by miles

The only advantage Rose has is age and his first step is ridiculous

 

[Robert TOWNsend]

We just got to agree to disagree I guess on this. I will say this and this is purely MY OPINION.

I'd take ROSE OVER ANY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE NOT named Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, or Dirk Nowitski. I think he is damn near is good as D Wade in all aspects with the EXCEPTION of the defensive end. I will say he does get beat a lot on defense Jeff Teague was scoring way more than he should have been when Rose was guarding him.

The thing is, rose is a great player but an average point guard. He needs to learn to play a controlled team game. Players get worse when playing with him, and that shouldn't be the case if you are a point guard, if he were a shooting guard like iverson then i wouldn't criticize him at all since his role would be to score. Plus he aint fuckin with wade on any level.

 

[bless the child]

Bless the child been on a mean losin streak wit your bulls predictions you made several predictions pertaining to the bulls that were wrong

You a bandwagon fan and your opinion holds no weight.

Bulls will not get mopped by the heat if boozer play good the heat gonna lose

Lol @ dickriding a team that you did not acknowledge last year you and several posters son ya selves everytime you talk about the heat

lol nigga didnt you say Miami was gonna struggled with both Philly and Boston? Didnt you say the Bulls will easily beat both the Pacers and Hawks? Can't be right about everything right? Miami played better than the Bulls this postseason and did it against better competition. Bulls struggled against weak ass teams, two teams that didnt win more than 44 games. The Heat handled the 2 seed and 7 seed handily. The Bulls struggled against the 5 and 8 seed??? I guess we'll see though.

 

[bless the child]

My prediction is bulls in 7

Every game will be close

This aint boston bulls #2 in rebounding and #1 in several categories on Defense.Boston was 29th in rebounds that showed vs the heat

Aint no cakewalk happenin,If rose play smart and boozer show up bulls will win

Wtf is you talkin about? Biased about what

The Heat are number 1 in offensive and defensive efficiency.

Right now in the playoffs the Bulls averages 43.9 rebounds per game, Miami averages 43.8

 

[yroholla]

Garnett plays better defense than Noah and wayyyyyyy better than Boozer....I suppose Bosh should play better this series than against the Celtics...Wade n LeBron gonna get theirs...just gotta make sure the role players get their shots in...might as well let Rose get his and stop everybody else cause Rose takes damn near half the shots for the Bulls anyway...

 

[Jay Pee]

Ummmm Rose played a point guard game against atlanta and they lost by 22 points. If Rose plays like he did in atlanta like a true PG and Boozer gives 18-9 Bulls will be fine.