Has Kim Davis been discriminated against based on EEOC laws?

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desertrain10;8342122 said:
She's an elected official so she can't just quit or be fired in the traditional sense

She doesn't want to resign obviously

So Kentucky legislators need to step up but than again there's legal obstacles

But yea she doesn't have a case

She is a public official and made an oath to uphold the law

Read she would be willing to issue out the licenses if her name would be removed from the document, but who is she for the state to making such accommodations???

And if they were to accommodate her, than what's stopping the another clerk from asking for similar accommodations if they don't want to issue license out to an atheist or someone twice divorced

Read this article and then decide if she does or does not have a case...

When does your religion legally excuse you from doing part of your job?

Can your religion legally excuse you from doing part of your job? This is one of the questions in the Kentucky County Clerk marriage certificate case. But it also arises in lots of other cases — for instance, the Muslim flight attendant who doesn’t want to serve alcohol and who filed a complaint on Tuesday with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission over the airline’s denial of an exemption.

The question has also arisen before with regard to:

1.Nurses who had religious objections to being involved in abortions (even just to washing instruments that would be used in abortions);

2.Pacifist postal workers who had religious objections to processing draft registration forms;

3.A Jehovah’s Witness employee who had religious objections to raising a flag, which was a task assigned to him;

4.An IRS employee who had religious objections to working on tax exemption applications for organizations that promote “abortion, … homosexuality, worship of the devil, euthanasia, atheism, legalization of marijuana, immoral sexual experiments, sterilization or vasectomies, artificial contraception, and witchcraft”;

5.a philosophically vegetarian bus driver who refused to hand out hamburger coupons as part of an agency’s promotion aimed at boosting ridership;

6.and more.

And of course it arises routinely when people are fine with their job tasks, but have a religious objection to doing them on particular days (e.g., Saturdays and Fridays after sundown).

Under Title VII of the federal Civil Rights Act, both public and private employers have a duty to exempt religious employees from generally applicable work rules, so long as this won’t create an “undue hardship,” meaning more than a modest cost, on the employer. If the employees can be accommodated in a way that would let the job still get done without much burden on the employer, coworkers, and customers — for instance by switching the employee’s assignments with another employee or by otherwise slightly changing the job duties — then the employer must accommodate them. (The Muslim flight attendant I mentioned above, for instance, claims that she has always been able to work out arrangements under which the other flight attendant serves the alcohol instead of her.)

Thus, for instance, in all the cases I mentioned in the numbered list above, the religious objectors got an accommodation, whether in court or as a result of the employer’s settling a lawsuit brought by the EEOC. Likewise, the EEOC is currently litigating a case in which it claims that a trucking company must accommodate a Muslim employee’s religious objections to transporting alcohol, and the court has indeed concluded that the employer had a duty to accommodate such objections. But if the accommodation would have been quite difficult or expensive (beyond the inevitable cost that always come when rearranging tasks), then the employer wouldn’t have had to provide it.

Now I’m not saying this to praise the law, or to claim that it’s demanded by vital principles of religious principles. One can certainly argue against this approach, especially as applied to private employers, but also as applied to the government.

Read the rest here:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...gally-excuse-you-from-doing-part-of-your-job/
 
Judge_Judah;8342213 said:
desertrain10;8342122 said:
She's an elected official so she can't just quit or be fired in the traditional sense

She doesn't want to resign obviously

So Kentucky legislators need to step up but than again there's legal obstacles

But yea she doesn't have a case

She is a public official and made an oath to uphold the law

Read she would be willing to issue out the licenses if her name would be removed from the document, but who is she for the state to making such accommodations???

And if they were to accommodate her, than what's stopping the another clerk from asking for similar accommodations if they don't want to issue license out to an atheist or someone twice divorced

Read this article and then decide if she does or does not have a case...

When does your religion legally excuse you from doing part of your job?

Can your religion legally excuse you from doing part of your job? This is one of the questions in the Kentucky County Clerk marriage certificate case. But it also arises in lots of other cases — for instance, the Muslim flight attendant who doesn’t want to serve alcohol and who filed a complaint on Tuesday with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission over the airline’s denial of an exemption.

The question has also arisen before with regard to:

1.Nurses who had religious objections to being involved in abortions (even just to washing instruments that would be used in abortions);

2.Pacifist postal workers who had religious objections to processing draft registration forms;

3.A Jehovah’s Witness employee who had religious objections to raising a flag, which was a task assigned to him;

4.An IRS employee who had religious objections to working on tax exemption applications for organizations that promote “abortion, … homosexuality, worship of the devil, euthanasia, atheism, legalization of marijuana, immoral sexual experiments, sterilization or vasectomies, artificial contraception, and witchcraft”;

5.a philosophically vegetarian bus driver who refused to hand out hamburger coupons as part of an agency’s promotion aimed at boosting ridership;

6.and more.

And of course it arises routinely when people are fine with their job tasks, but have a religious objection to doing them on particular days (e.g., Saturdays and Fridays after sundown).

Under Title VII of the federal Civil Rights Act, both public and private employers have a duty to exempt religious employees from generally applicable work rules, so long as this won’t create an “undue hardship,” meaning more than a modest cost, on the employer. If the employees can be accommodated in a way that would let the job still get done without much burden on the employer, coworkers, and customers — for instance by switching the employee’s assignments with another employee or by otherwise slightly changing the job duties — then the employer must accommodate them. (The Muslim flight attendant I mentioned above, for instance, claims that she has always been able to work out arrangements under which the other flight attendant serves the alcohol instead of her.)

Thus, for instance, in all the cases I mentioned in the numbered list above, the religious objectors got an accommodation, whether in court or as a result of the employer’s settling a lawsuit brought by the EEOC. Likewise, the EEOC is currently litigating a case in which it claims that a trucking company must accommodate a Muslim employee’s religious objections to transporting alcohol, and the court has indeed concluded that the employer had a duty to accommodate such objections. But if the accommodation would have been quite difficult or expensive (beyond the inevitable cost that always come when rearranging tasks), then the employer wouldn’t have had to provide it.

Now I’m not saying this to praise the law, or to claim that it’s demanded by vital principles of religious principles. One can certainly argue against this approach, especially as applied to private employers, but also as applied to the government.

Read the rest here:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...gally-excuse-you-from-doing-part-of-your-job/

She works for the government though

To accommodate her is a form of discrimination against gays

Its like marking their licenses with a scarlet letter

They can't grant a government worker special priveldges at the expense of another because of their race, gender, sexual orientation or gender
 
This woman is a trip.

She wants to uphold traditional marriage due to her beliefs within her church and bible. Yet, she's been divorced 3x. She had twins out of wedlock, from her 3rd husband, and they were taken care of by her 2nd husband. Now, she's on her 4th marriage.

Really? How the fuck are you gonna get on your holy pedestal and preach against same-sex marriage not being traditional.

Then, feel discriminated against, attacked, due to your beliefs, when you're doing the same shit to those you're denying marriage licenses?

Someone needs to slap the shit out of her.

She's not being attack by a judge due to her religion, but due to her government job. She is in contempt of court. She is going against the law. If I'm not mistaken, Jesus said to honor the governments laws, regardless of how you feel.

She needs to quit her job.
 
VIBE;8342856 said:
This woman is a trip.

She wants to uphold traditional marriage due to her beliefs within her church and bible. Yet, she's been divorced 3x. She had twins out of wedlock, from her 3rd husband, and they were taken care of by her 2nd husband. Now, she's on her 4th marriage.

Really? How the fuck are you gonna get on your holy pedestal and preach against same-sex marriage not being traditional.

Then, feel discriminated against, attacked, due to your beliefs, when you're doing the same shit to those you're denying marriage licenses?

Someone needs to slap the shit out of her.

She's not being attack by a judge due to her religion, but due to her government job. She is in contempt of court. She is going against the law. If I'm not mistaken, Jesus said to honor the governments laws, regardless of how you feel.

She needs to quit her job.

But watch when they bring that up it's gonna be a slanderous attack against her.

If a muslim decided not to serve her because she's christian imagine the news stories
 
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She hasn't been discriminated against. EEOC is specifically designed to prevent/discourage discrimination by a person from their employer. The federal judge that ruled she was in contempt is not her employer.

The only way for this conflict to be settled is for the religious lobby to end Marriage, and any other TRADITIONAL religious institution, as a state institution completely by citing "separation of church and state" decisions and legislation. That will make marriage a private institution between people and the church, excluding gov't from the process completely. However, all the state-sponsored benefits of marriage would cease.
 
They have laws in Kentucky where a person that holds that position can't be removed.

What sense does that make?

Now you gotta arrest a hoe for not doing her job
 
These so called morally righteous Christians are hilarious to me.

This woman whose been married and divorced several times somehow can't fathom issuing out marriage certificates due to her thoughts, feelings, and religious beliefs about homosexuals.

Meanwhile people who are atheists, pagans, and have other non-Christian beliefs have been getting married for ages.

I'm sure that didn't ever occur to Kim Davis though; getting married is just as much or more about having more economic power, a better environment to raise children, and being able to enjoy the benefits of having a spouse grants you under the law as it is about religious beliefs to some people.

 
I believe the answer to the question I posted in the OP has been answered. She does not have a case.is she wrong for standing behind her religious convictions? I dont believe she is. But I do think she is a hypocrite because she is picking and choosing when to follow biblical "law".

But do you think she doesn't know she is being a hypocrite?
 
This bitch and half the people rushing to protect her probably haven't even read the bible. Just do your job and shut up.

The laws of religion in the workplace weren't made to protect people using religion as a form of prejudice in the office or on the job.

They were made to protect those who are attacked for nothing more than being a part of a religion. They were put there to protect people in situations like being the quiet muslim employee who received backlash after 9/11 for being a muslim. Or to protect someone from talking down or treating you like a lesser person because you don't share the same beliefs.

 
Judge_Judah;8344336 said:
I believe the answer to the question I posted in the OP has been answered. She does not have a case.is she wrong for standing behind her religious convictions? I dont believe she is. But I do think she is a hypocrite because she is picking and choosing when to follow biblical "law".

But do you think she doesn't know she is being a hypocrite?

As stubborn as she is and as cult like as her religion I bet the thought her being a hypocrite hasn't even crossed her mind. A distant family member is in a church like this (it may be this church) and once sent an email which was easily one of the funniest anti black propaganda articles I've ever seen. The said article claimed that the media coverage of Trayvon Martin had been made out to make him look like a saint and then followed that up with what was supposed to be a real picture of Trayvon Martin.The next part of this story I still can't say this without laughing so I'm dying in front of my computer seat right dying. I scroll down to see the picture and it's a picture of The Game. I couldn't believe such ignorance. And then we kindly tell her hey that's definitely not Trayvon Martin she didn't even care. She just sent the next propaganda ridden email.

I honestly think when people put so much of themselves into biased organizations like so it almost becomes impossible to get through to them. Regardless of right or wrong, their word is always right.
 
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JokerzWyld;8343869 said:
She hasn't been discriminated against. EEOC is specifically designed to prevent/discourage discrimination by a person from their employer. The federal judge that ruled she was in contempt is not her employer.

The only way for this conflict to be settled is for the religious lobby to end Marriage, and any other TRADITIONAL religious institution, as a state institution completely by citing "separation of church and state" decisions and legislation. That will make marriage a private institution between people and the church, excluding gov't from the process completely. However, all the state-sponsored benefits of marriage would cease.
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/534199/should-marriage-be-de-legalized/p1

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