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theBlackbeard
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Maybe you just getting older.
BelovedAfeni
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its not running its course
its being repackaged and rebranded
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its being repackaged and rebranded
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CeLLaR-DooR
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Only reason I'd say 'no' is because something else hasn't taken its place yet. There will always be good hip-hop like there will always be good rock, jazz, blues etc but hip-hop as a whole has been stagnant for a while.
NothingButTheTruth
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From a commercial standpoint, yes. However, Hip-Hop is anti-commercial, so Hip-Hop will always be fine as long as the integrity remains intact with the true legends of the game. Hip-Hop is an art first and foremost.
Right now, we're just coming to learn that the business side of things directly hinders the essence of Hip-Hop overall. Trying to make a dollar and trying to make the charts has a direct relation to watered down music and a weak consumer base.
Despite all of this, in the end the good music will rise to the top. 50+ years from now, no one will remember the commercial acts. The people whose music will live on forever will be the ones with peak artistic value. We've seen it with other genres and subcultures, and Hip-Hop will be no different.
Right now, we're just coming to learn that the business side of things directly hinders the essence of Hip-Hop overall. Trying to make a dollar and trying to make the charts has a direct relation to watered down music and a weak consumer base.
Despite all of this, in the end the good music will rise to the top. 50+ years from now, no one will remember the commercial acts. The people whose music will live on forever will be the ones with peak artistic value. We've seen it with other genres and subcultures, and Hip-Hop will be no different.
MoneyLuver
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Troll thread. Damage the positive energy thread.
NothingButTheTruth
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I see a lot of y'all acting like we have a lot of quality music, but I think your view or definition of quality depends on what kind of consumer you are.
To me, everything is on a curve. Once I've heard excellence, I can't mess with above average or average or worse. You know why? Because I could be using that time to listen to the better artist.
To me, everything is on a curve. Once I've heard excellence, I can't mess with above average or average or worse. You know why? Because I could be using that time to listen to the better artist.
When Nas & Co. put down their mics for good
No more Wu
No more Sean P
No more Cube
No more Jay, etc. etc
Then what?
I know Hip Hop still got some talented youngsters
But without the 90s generation?, Hip Hop seems doomed
Because the culture already lost influential elements (a long time ago)
Graffiti became Twitter
DJing became Youtube-ing
Breaking became Swagging
And rap?, rap became bullshit
Real MCs, the last Mohicans. what's the difference..
No more Wu
No more Sean P
No more Cube
No more Jay, etc. etc
Then what?
I know Hip Hop still got some talented youngsters
But without the 90s generation?, Hip Hop seems doomed
Because the culture already lost influential elements (a long time ago)
Graffiti became Twitter
DJing became Youtube-ing
Breaking became Swagging
And rap?, rap became bullshit
Real MCs, the last Mohicans. what's the difference..
It all depends on where you look I guess. If you only believe that the music displayed in the media and mainstream is all that's out here and is a sign of the genre as a whole, then I'd see the point. The music in the commercial sense has become formulaic and stale for the most part. There's still some good music being made in the mainstream world, it's just that there's no true passion/soul behind the shit.
However, if you listen to the abundance of dope indie artists, niggas on the underground, or niggas teetering the mainstream line, you'll find the genre is alive and well. But, the majority of hip hop "fans" I see, only look to the mainstream for a basis of the whole genre, which is limiting. I knew this nigga who kept complaining about hip hop like "niggas ain't rapping about shit these days", I asked him "yo, you don't fuck with Big KRIT, Phonte, Kendrick, even that bum ass Jay Electronica?", this nigga went "I only know about Kendrick, the fuck are them other dudes?". This is when I realized the issue with a lot of people. When Jay Electronica was trending on Twitter the other day, the responses ranged from "who is this Jay Electronica guy, he's pretty good", or "I haven't heard of him before". A lot of people don't know how Big KRIT is either, and I'd blame them on just not being invested in the culture. As far as I'm concerned, hip hop got the tools to never run its course if we actually start uplifting the artists with skill and passion behind the music. Media want you to only see the bullshit music or the controlled "dope music", fuck that.
However, if you listen to the abundance of dope indie artists, niggas on the underground, or niggas teetering the mainstream line, you'll find the genre is alive and well. But, the majority of hip hop "fans" I see, only look to the mainstream for a basis of the whole genre, which is limiting. I knew this nigga who kept complaining about hip hop like "niggas ain't rapping about shit these days", I asked him "yo, you don't fuck with Big KRIT, Phonte, Kendrick, even that bum ass Jay Electronica?", this nigga went "I only know about Kendrick, the fuck are them other dudes?". This is when I realized the issue with a lot of people. When Jay Electronica was trending on Twitter the other day, the responses ranged from "who is this Jay Electronica guy, he's pretty good", or "I haven't heard of him before". A lot of people don't know how Big KRIT is either, and I'd blame them on just not being invested in the culture. As far as I'm concerned, hip hop got the tools to never run its course if we actually start uplifting the artists with skill and passion behind the music. Media want you to only see the bullshit music or the controlled "dope music", fuck that.
MoneyLuver
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TrueGodHS;6969652 said:It all depends on where you look I guess. If you only believe that the music displayed in the media and mainstream is all that's out here and is a sign of the genre as a whole, then I'd see the point. The music in the commercial sense has become formulaic and stale for the most part. There's still some good music being made in the mainstream world, it's just that there's no true passion/soul behind the shit.
However, if you listen to the abundance of dope indie artists, niggas on the underground, or niggas teetering the mainstream line, you'll find the genre is alive and well. But, the majority of hip hop "fans" I see, only look to the mainstream for a basis of the whole genre, which is limiting. I knew this nigga who kept complaining about hip hop like "niggas ain't rapping about shit these days", I asked him "yo, you don't fuck with Big KRIT, Phonte, Kendrick, even that bum ass Jay Electronica?", this nigga went "I only know about Kendrick, the fuck are them other dudes?". This is when I realized the issue with a lot of people. When Jay Electronica was trending on Twitter the other day, the responses ranged from "who is this Jay Electronica guy, he's pretty good", or "I haven't heard of him before". A lot of people don't know how Big KRIT is either, and I'd blame them on just not being invested in the culture. As far as I'm concerned, hip hop got the tools to never run its course if we actually start uplifting the artists with skill and passion behind the music. Media want you to only see the bullshit music or the controlled "dope music", fuck that.
Weazel;6969619 said:When Nas & Co. put down their mics for good
No more Wu
No more Sean P
No more Cube
No more Jay, etc. etc
Then what?
I know Hip Hop still got some talented youngsters
But without the 90s generation?, Hip Hop seems doomed
Because the culture already lost influential elements (a long time ago)
Graffiti became Twitter
DJing became Youtube-ing
Breaking became Swagging
And rap?, rap became bullshit
Real MCs, the last Mohicans. what's the difference..
Anybody see what I just did?
OGClarenceBoddicker
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Yep it's over, once white people take over, black folks move along, when white people took over rock niggas started lookin at the blues/rock like it was old school and played out, they prolly seen it as they parents music, compared to soul and funk which niggas was startin to develop it was new and hip, black people have always been trendy, we have a right to though because we start the trends
genres do not control the mainstream or even last forever, hip hop ran from the mid 80s almost dead in 2014, rock ran from the 50s to the late 90s early 00s and it basically started incorporating elements of hip hop in the early 90s
lemme drop some unrelated knowledge real quick, "rock and roll" was black slang back in the early 20th century, im sure yall know it was slang for havin sex, the same way we say "smash" today, they also had a phrase they called "rockin the blues", nigga we still use the word "rock" today, let me "rock" them shoes", "we rocked that bitch", "nigga that shit was rockin", some 90s shit, "im gon rock yo world" foh all this shit ours, hell we use the word rock in everyday language more than crackers and dont even listen to the music, thats how you know its our culture
yea doe, hip hop over wit and i cant wait till it die so i can see whats next, even the turn up shit is dead wack right now
genres do not control the mainstream or even last forever, hip hop ran from the mid 80s almost dead in 2014, rock ran from the 50s to the late 90s early 00s and it basically started incorporating elements of hip hop in the early 90s
lemme drop some unrelated knowledge real quick, "rock and roll" was black slang back in the early 20th century, im sure yall know it was slang for havin sex, the same way we say "smash" today, they also had a phrase they called "rockin the blues", nigga we still use the word "rock" today, let me "rock" them shoes", "we rocked that bitch", "nigga that shit was rockin", some 90s shit, "im gon rock yo world" foh all this shit ours, hell we use the word rock in everyday language more than crackers and dont even listen to the music, thats how you know its our culture
yea doe, hip hop over wit and i cant wait till it die so i can see whats next, even the turn up shit is dead wack right now
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High Revolutionary
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Also saying 'there's quality music still being made' doesn't mean that the genre hasn't run its course. There's still quality jazz records being made doesn't mean that jazz hasn't too ran its course conventionally speaking.
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OGClarenceBoddicker
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and where is this quality music you niggas speak of? hip hop is trash right now real hip hop and turn up alike its all trash right now, we made it remix was the best thing i heard since whenever and its just a freestyle
High Revolutionary
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Rebblez;6969960 said:Of course it has
just look how dry this forum is
That's another thing, just looking at the first page of the reason over half the threads are indirectly or directly about rappers from the 90's. 2pac Jay and Nas could probably have their own sub-forums on here.
