young_reezy
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aint tryna spend nothing over 25 racks
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Have your boy go through the rapper's booking agent. Most of them are easy to find on the web. The websites give all the info you need to book the artists. Your boy doesn't have to be a big timer to book them but he does have to have the ability to guarantee the demands of the artist before they agree tot he booking. Fees aren't the only demands that must be met. He'll have to pay for the artist's travel and lodging accommodations in most cases so he's going to have to open his wallet if he wants to do it. But it's profits to be made. I have friends that did it for a while.
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young_reezy;2636031 said:
Ive never booked myself but ive put money up for some. They arent nowhere near that much unless they have a hit on the radio, dont let them raps niggas fool you. The average rap nigga gonna be between 5-10 and it also depends on the size of the venue and if their coming to perform or if their just making an appearance.
Edit: And like Homie said you also have to pay for the flight and hotel and transportation of the artist which isnt included in the 5-10
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Old Fart;2636769 said:
be carefull with searching google for booking agency ... there are millions of them on the net acting like they have connects to every artist in the world ...
the best way to go about it ... is either contact the promo depart @ the artist label ... you can find the number usually on a retail cd .... or use social networks to get an official contact ... twitter, facebook etc.... 9 times out of 10 u wont be able to contact the artist cause they are getting too much traffic ... but if u study thier account enuff u usually can pinpoint thier manager, tour dj, assistants etc .......
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young_reezy
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antarticp;2637128 said:all of them charge lol thats why they become commercial artist lol
you must have misunderstood what i was saying, i said "what rappers usally charge" not who are the rappers that charge....
i was asking whats the price tag on some of these niggaz... u get what i'm sayin?
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young_reezy
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i already know you gotta accomadate a nigga, he gone wanna smoke good, eat good, have a good place to stay, good transpo what not and also be safe, i already thought about all that. i was just tryna c if anybody on here had some game to share on the subject.
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it's really no real magic formula to it except $$$. All your boy has to do is do a little research on the artist and their booking agent is usually very easy to find. That's how the artist makes money and the agent is always on the lookout for a gig for his artist. All your boy gotta do is hit the agent up and tell him what kind of gig he got in mind and then they negotiate a deal. Can't give a set price because all artist art different and so is each gig. They can't give you a price until they know what you want done. Like if he wanted to book an artist like Wiz just do quick easy research and he'll run right into this dude... http://www.sonicscoop.com/2011/03/2...-for-agent-peter-schwartz-on-hip-hop-touring/young_reezy;2645113 said:
Booking Wiz Khalifa: Five Questions for Peter Schwartz on Hip Hop Touring
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March 27, 2011 by David Weiss
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MIDTOWN, MANHATTAN: The massive motivation of hip hop artists like Wiz Khalifa is only half the story of how they storm the world’s stages: Behind every live touring success is a booking agent that knows their territory.
Wiz Khalifa is on the road again as "Rolling Papers" launches. (photo credit: Darren Ankenman)Khalifa is about to kick off the Campus Consciousness Green Carpet Tour, running March 31-April 22, followed by the rapper’s first brief European tour from May 16-24. Along the way, he’ll be benefiting from the sage experience of Peter Schwartz, NYC-based VP of international booking specialists The Agency Group: his nearly 20 years of experience have had him plotting out live jaunts for the likes of Jay-Z, Method Man & Redman, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Run DMC and Wu Tang Clan, Big Sean and Big Boi.
Khalifa is on a hot streak: his single “Black & Yellow” hit #1 on the Billboard charts, and his new album Rolling Papers drops on March 29th – the same day he’ll grace the Roseland Ballroom stage right here in NYC.
In 2010, 135 of Wiz’ 140 shows sold out: our five questions with Schwartz explains why, and provides sharp touring advice for the next round of hip hop upstarts.
What about being a booking agent gets you out of bed each morning?
I truly enjoy being an agent, so getting going each day is really not that hard. Success is no doubt a driving force, especially when working with clients like Wiz Khalifa with such exciting growth and potential. It really makes the job fun, and I look forward to waking up just to see how well tickets sold overnight or where a client is charting that day.
His upcoming show at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC sold out in 16 minutes – that kind of thing fires me up for sure. Of course, it’s very rewarding to be standing at a sold-out show, watching the crowd go bonkers and seeing all the hard work pay off and come together in the end.
Bonkers is always the objective, we agree. How would you describe Wiz Khalifa’s live show?
Wiz’s live show is amazing: He puts his heart and soul into every performance — usually shirtless and drenched in sweat by the end of the show. His work ethic is unreal. His set is always fun and energetic, with his Taylor Gang team jumping around him to create even more hype. And the fans are always going insane!
We’ve been slowly growing his production with each tour, so his fans should expect to see him develop in that respect as well. They definitely get their money’s worth.
Each tour has a specific objective for the artist: Why is the Campus Consciousness Green Carpet Tour important for Wiz?
Peter Schwartz, VP at The Agency Group's NYC office, is the wizard of Wiz -- booking him live, that is.The Green Carpet Tour is basically a college tour, which made sense to do for a variety of reasons. It timed well within our plans for the year and the album release, and the college market is one of Wiz’s largest demographics.
The “Campus Consciousness” – environmental — tie-in was really a nice perk. The last “CCT” tour featured Drake and the one prior had Passion Pit headlining, so it seemed like a good brand had been established there.
Our main goal for this tour is pretty much the same as always…sell it all out! Ticket sales look incredible already. We’re going to follow this up with a summer headlining tour to support the new album.
You’ve booked a lot of hip hop tours. What are the differences between booking for hip hop and rock? What makes booking for hip hop and rock the same?
There are some small differences in booking hip hop and rock, but I really approach all my bookings the same way: good old “rock’n’roll style”.
The goal is to build the artist a long-lasting touring career by plotting the right moves and developing them to larger venues and guarantees. Each move should be made for a reason, with the next step already in mind. It is really important to know your fans and be very conscious of picking the right size venue, ticket price and other details like age restriction on the show.
That definitely makes sense – for a lot of business avenues besides just touring! Lastly, What tips do you have for emerging hip hop artists who want to bolster their careers with a live tour?
If an emerging artist has a strong live show, going on tour is a great way to promote themselves and build a fan base.
That’s really the key to success: building a fan base and a faithful following. This can be done through social networking, good press, releasing great music and of course touring is a great vehicle as well. Try and deliver the best performance you can. Keep your set short and sweet in the early stages. Network with any of your fans before or after the show. Connecting with your fans — old or new — is very important. And stay connected too!
Wiz Khalifa plays Roseland Ballroom on Tuesday, March 29th.
– David Weiss
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young_reezy
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i know in a game like that you gotta already be prepared to take a loss if you have to.
u gotta get someone who people would even want to see in your area..
where i live they like mainstream artists and bay area and southern rappers, and thats cool cause most bay area artists dont' charge too much, but people out this way only like a selected few of them tho
somebody like boosie or weebie would be good for this area but they going through some legal shit...
and somebody like wiz would be perfect but i think that lil nigga bussin heads for a show.
u gotta get someone who people would even want to see in your area..
where i live they like mainstream artists and bay area and southern rappers, and thats cool cause most bay area artists dont' charge too much, but people out this way only like a selected few of them tho
somebody like boosie or weebie would be good for this area but they going through some legal shit...
and somebody like wiz would be perfect but i think that lil nigga bussin heads for a show.
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From what my boy that did it told me, booking the artist is usually the easy part. It's securing a show location that he had the most problems with. The artists wont typical perform at just a backyard or house party so the gig gonna have to be at some hall or other rented facility that has adequate accommodations. Places be charging a lot for rap shows and insurance be crzay. That's what drove my friend away...that and poor attendence at the shows. Once the right spot is secured the rappers usually had no problem showing up and honoring the contract.
My boy got a lot of groupie love too. That was his favorite part of the job.
My boy got a lot of groupie love too. That was his favorite part of the job.
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young_reezy;2645105 said:
my bag homey ... ive never successfully booked an "big" artist yet ... because of diff reasons price too high, couldnt agree on a date, rescheduled for a date i couldnt accomadate, business partner disagreements etc.....
jadakiss 1ok
nicki minaj 22k
wiz khalifa 30k via that peter swarchz guy and i spoke with someone @ rostrum records ... this was the way to high of a price situation
Fabolous 10k - thru young sav @ def jam
The Clipse 10k - booking agency
Vado - 5k - got personal connects in this camp
Jim Jones - 10k - got personal connects in this camp
Freaky Zeaky - 2500 - got personal connects in this camp who told me an higher price (never negotiated with them on it tho) ... another friend of mine got it down to this price ....
Peedi Crack - 1500k (for event in delaware)
Gilly Da Kid - $750
i also had french montana on the line but he wouldnt give a price unless i confirmed a date n venue ... which sounded backwards to me ... why would i book a venue and dont even have my act etc.... setup yet ?????
most of these were just quotes i personally got from these artist booking agent, manager etc ... the only ones that were sure shots ... were Fab, The Clipse, Wiz Khalifa & Freaky Zeaky .... i had those booked but due to reshedules, business conflicts, pricing conflicts those shows never came to life .....
i had other reasons other then becoming a promoter in doing these events ... so i stopped pushing @ a point because those reasons to do it were becoming MOOT ... but its def a struggle trying to get these artist ... to the point that even when you do got one on the line ... up to the very last minute they can cancel on you because they may have a better offer somewhere else or issues on the road stopped them from making it on time etc ....................
but in my opinion VERY LUCRATIVE ... if u get artist your market wants to see ... plus it will boost ya profile like a mofo ...!!
good luck mane ...!!
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young_reezy;2645113 said:
the shit i hate you do all the ass kissing ... but you hear over and over again how these artist tend to show up late acting arrogant or NO SHOW !! like come on !! lets get this money do good business so a couple months down the road we can get together n do it AGAIN !!!!
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antarticp;2645953 said:
Yeah i figured they were just quotes cuz i was about to say Jada and Jim (unless it was around the time that Ballin came out) were def tryna get over. I know for a fact that they have done shows here for way less. But at the same time Jada has alot of personal contacts here and Jim comes here once a yr on average so that could be why their prices here were cheaper.
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Old Fart;2645362 said:
booking venues wasnt a issue for me ... and none of the artist never asked me about the venue i chose ... my gripe was HOW THE FUCK CAN I PAY WIZ 30k ... if my venue holds only 600 PEOPLE !!!!!!!! id have to over charge the hell out of my customers .... and what if the shit flopped ????? @ the time black n yellow was hot ... but only with the white folks which is why i was interested in booking him ... cause i already had the black urban crowd coming to my parties i wanted to mix it with the urban white crowd ya know ....
this dude was coming from atlantic city the day before ... delaware aint atlantic city ... u charge atlantic city those outrageous prices cause they making millions by the nite ... @ the most promoters in delaware are lucky to get A thousand by the end of the nite ... most dudes are looking @100s in profits ..... #justventing lol
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bmoreeast;2646041 said:
yeah jada was actually right before his last album dropped he just had the singles buzzin ... and the jim quote def old too yup around ballin time ...
and thats what its all about tho ... after that first show or 2 ... i need that hustla's price ..
but @ the end of the day ... any artist on that level i can do 10k if they want cause i know i can make that back plus more ... but anything higher than that it starts to get a lil iffy ....
with nicki i was willing to drop 20k cause i know i can shut shit down with her name ....
30k for wiz ??????? i dont even know if i could honestly make the bread with him today .......
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Old Fart;2645362 said:
u def do man ... i never even got a chance to promote an even with a famous artist and i had some much groupie luv ... id be in the club wit like 5 bitches around me lol ... altho they all want something ... groupies always do ... but use them just like they trying to use u
.... but i couldnt even imagin what it would of been like if i started booking these artist ... shit would be out of hand ...... lolside note thus why i stay recommending these artist ... if u wanna build ya name in your local area ... THROW PARTIES !!!! still be an artist but approach the game like a promoter would and i guaranteed you'd be poppin with groupie bitches ready to do what ever n everything .. if i accomplished it here in this small state WITHOUT CONCIOUSLY doing it .... it can be done anywhere lol
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Triple B's
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If your looking to book MAINSTREAM Artists, I would suggest looking into possible outside sponsors. It takes some of the pressure off your wallet and it adds another "promoter" to your roster. Also.... in an event like this... OVERLOAD ON PROMOTERS. what you'll pay out to a good promoter is nothing compared to what the loss will be if not enough people show up.
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some_darc_obama;2646226 said:
good one .... and real shit on the bold thats why i couldnt roll with Wiz @30k ... it was like dude just wanted me to pay for him 30k just to show up FOH im doing this to make some gwop too .... lol
side note if anyone got any insider info on getting sponsors ... especially liquor sponors ... drop some knowledge
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