Great black atheists

[Ajackson17]

i have no issue with atheist or anyone with any alternative belief system to my own, i just don't appreciate when they try to bash and talk down on followers of a certain faith....

i'd never talk down on an atheist, muslim, agnostic, or any body simply because of the spiritual/religious beliefs or lack of......solely because of just that....

now if they're an all around jerk on top of it, then it's fuck them... but one of my best friends is agnostic.....and i used to wrestle with my belief system for a good while....

so i mean it's whatever.....just don't try to attack my beliefs to validate your own stance

.....it ain't that kind of thread lol.

We are talking about black atheists that have done something great for the community and global world. Not the internet shit talkers who haven't one ounce of work that can be referred to long after they left this world.

Notice I didn't talk no shit about Dro's religion, beliefs, and ideology? That's the way it needs to be done and I agree. We can have civil conversations why we have our beliefs or disbeliefs but anything out of that is childish in my opinion. @dwo

But I will drop more names and guys who were black atheists that did tangible meaningful impactful things for the community. Or if you know anyone please drop their name and bio and picture if possible.

Plus, I have plenty of Christian and Muslim revolutionaries that I look up to.

 

[Olorun22]

The biggest known legend when it comes to African History and history in general.

John Henrik Clarke

(1915-1998)

In 1986, the Africana Library was named in honor of John Henrik Clarke, who was widely recognized as a pioneer in the field of Africana Studies. Dr. Clarke played an important role in the early history of Cornell University's Africana Studies & Research Center. He was a Distinguished Visiting Professor of African History at the Center in the 1970s. He also made an invaluable contribution to the establishment of its curricula.

Dr. Clarke is the author of numerous articles that have appeared in leading scholarly journals. He also served as the author, contributor, or editor of 24 books. In 1968 along with the Black Caucus of the African Studies Association, Dr. Clarke founded the African Heritage Studies Association. In 1969 he was appointed as the founding chairman of the Black and Puerto Rican Studies Department at Hunter College in New York City.

Dr. Clarke was most known and highly regarded for his lifelong devotion to studying and documenting the histories and contributions of African peoples in Africa and the diaspora.

Dr. Clarke is often quoted as stating that "History is not everything, but it is a starting point. History is a clock that people use to tell their political and cultural time of day. It is a compass they use to find themselves on the map of human geography. It tells them where they are, but more importantly, what they must be."

Featured Web Sites About John Henrik Clarke:

The John Henrik Clarke Virtual Museum

In Memory of John Henrik Clarke (Hunter College)

Schomburg Legacy Exhibition: John Henrik Clarke Section

John Henrik Clarke Bibliographies (Cornell University)

John Henrik Clarke Resources (Runoko Rashidi)

Information on Film, John Henrik Clarke: A Great & Mighty Walk
http://africana.library.cornell.edu/africana/clarke/index.html

JHC Is the truth.

 

[The_Jackal]

ATHEISTS CANT BE GREAT....

Why can't we be great @MARIO_DRO the philosophies of both Malcom X and Martin Luther King Jr was written and created by an atheist the first one up there. No Hubbard no Garvey, no Malcolm (literally his mother's met because of garvey's meetings and Hubbard assisted and trained Garvey), no African History known to us, no UNESCO African heritage that is a global researched 7 book series by the UN and all of those African scholars, no Black history month, no Carter G Woodson, and etc.

That's the foundation of black america today.

ATHEISTS CANT BE GREAT....

You're just ignorant

Psalm 14:1

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good

I'm not a fucking atheist and I would put up money I know, can comprehend, and am an overall better Christian then you.

..THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'MORE SAVED" OR A BETTER CHRISTIAN.. EITHER YOU ARE OR YOU ARENT..

BUT WHY YOU ARE MAD?!?!

Implying morals, works, and action aren't important part of being christian.

I'm mad because you and people like you make Christians appear to be uncivilized, ignorant, and hate the exact opposite God requires from man.

 

[kingblaze84]

ATHEISTS CANT BE GREAT....

Why can't we be great @MARIO_DRO the philosophies of both Malcom X and Martin Luther King Jr was written and created by an atheist the first one up there. No Hubbard no Garvey, no Malcolm (literally his mother's met because of garvey's meetings and Hubbard assisted and trained Garvey), no African History known to us, no UNESCO African heritage that is a global researched 7 book series by the UN and all of those African scholars, no Black history month, no Carter G Woodson, and etc.

That's the foundation of black america today.

AREN'T you kind of exaggerating things a bit much.... the atheist from back in the day were nothing like the load obnoxious atheist now.

I'm not even exaggerating and his contemporaries and students and their students say the same thing. Hubbard was the organizer, Garvey was the galvanizer and he was the one who got him on stage for the first time in New York City. I'm not saying atheism is what drove him to do great things, but don't look down on people on their disbelief and their contributions in history.

Also be happy he was Caribbean immigrant such as yourself.

As someone with Caribbean parents, learning about Hubert Harrison was really cool. He was a good, righteous brotha.

 

[kingblaze84]

Neil Tyson is another great Black atheist I can think of, one of my favorite scientists. He may also be agnostic but he's very sympathetic to atheists, as I am.

 

[Will Munny]

Ben Carson

 

[LUClEN]

Do a thread about Black Pagans next

 

[Ajackson17]

Do a thread about Black Pagans next

People who live small towns or the christian version?

 

[the dukester]

Awesome thread. Being a black atheist, in many respects, is worse than being a faggot in the black community; In terms of stigma--and being ostracized.

We grow up in these hyper-masculine communities where toughness and male bravado is over-emphasized as a survival strategy. As a result of this facade, and the slow, albeit burgeoning shift to a matriarchal black community, our women have pushed White Jesus and Christianity on our children as a "stand-in" for the lack of REAL male guidance/leadership.

"Turn the other cheek" (MLK) leaders have always been pushed on us by the White establishment for many self-serving reasons. All animals have "code" written into there DNA, as a means to further their survival, and pass on there genes. Revenge is one of these codes. Lions will kill Hyenas, because they are mortal enemies, resulting from past violent encounters, and for the safety & security of their cubs.

Christianity was pushed on us to "siphon" our natural (code-based) aggressive tendencies towards white people, for enslavement for 400 years, followed by legalized discrimination. It's a sub-plot that has the sinister mind-manipulation of Willie Lynch all over it. Soften up the black male, so he won't seek "justified" revenge on us for our atrocities on him, via "forgive your enemies" bullshit.

Has the White man adopted any of the aforementioned Christian tenets? Hell no. Quite the contrary, there's not enough white space on this forum to account for all the crimes he's done to humanity. Still, we praise, in a submissive posture (prostrating ourselves when we pray, lowering our head, clasping our hands together in a begging gesture when we pray.....To White Jesus.)

Jerry Falwell said it best when he said, "Soldiers and Christians ask no questions." They just follow their marching orders.

 

[The_Jackal]

I'm not even going to derail the thread but that whole essay you wrote is ridiculously biased, generalized, and wrong. I especially love how we ignore the first armed slaved revolt being led by an slave pastor.

 

[Ajackson17]

I'm not even going to derail the thread but that whole essay you wrote is ridiculously biased, generalized, and wrong. I especially love how we ignore the first armed slaved revolt being led by an slave pastor.

Can you direct me the right path, because I know there were 200 slave revolts prior to Nat Turner.

People have to realize this today's black church is nothing like the church in our grandparents heyday. They actually organized and had the Deacon's Armed group and such.

 

[rodneyskinner]

ATHEISTS CANT BE GREAT....

Why can't we be great @MARIO_DRO the philosophies of both Malcom X and Martin Luther King Jr was written and created by an atheist the first one up there. No Hubbard no Garvey, no Malcolm (literally his mother's met because of garvey's meetings and Hubbard assisted and trained Garvey), no African History known to us, no UNESCO African heritage that is a global researched 7 book series by the UN and all of those African scholars, no Black history month, no Carter G Woodson, and etc.

That's the foundation of black america today.

ATHEISTS CANT BE GREAT....

You're just ignorant

Psalm 14:1

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good

Pimp Logic. No the fool says in his heart I have faith in the unseen because I have seen it. And all other sorts of pimp logic.

 

[zzombie]

ATHEISTS CANT BE GREAT....

Why can't we be great @MARIO_DRO the philosophies of both Malcom X and Martin Luther King Jr was written and created by an atheist the first one up there. No Hubbard no Garvey, no Malcolm (literally his mother's met because of garvey's meetings and Hubbard assisted and trained Garvey), no African History known to us, no UNESCO African heritage that is a global researched 7 book series by the UN and all of those African scholars, no Black history month, no Carter G Woodson, and etc.

That's the foundation of black america today.

ATHEISTS CANT BE GREAT....

You're just ignorant

Psalm 14:1

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good

Pimp Logic. No the fool says in his heart I have faith in the unseen because I have seen it. And all other sorts of pimp logic.

A lot of people don't actually put there faith in the unseen they believe that they can see the movements of god in their lives.

 

[JusDre313]

i have no issue with atheist or anyone with any alternative belief system to my own, i just don't appreciate when they try to bash and talk down on followers of a certain faith....

i'd never talk down on an atheist, muslim, agnostic, or any body simply because of the spiritual/religious beliefs or lack of......solely because of just that....

now if they're an all around jerk on top of it, then it's fuck them... but one of my best friends is agnostic.....and i used to wrestle with my belief system for a good while....

so i mean it's whatever.....just don't try to attack my beliefs to validate your own stance

im agnostic and fell the same exact way about religious people.. dont see why everyone cant have this philosophy. Praise or not praise who u want.. just leave me the hell alone.

 

[the dukester]

@Thejackal

I would acknowledge that the slave rebellions that occurred in Haiti, had a SIGNIFICANT impact on Haitians, defeating the French, and thus obtaining independence.

However, the slave rebellions in the U.S, are merely a footnote in the larger context of 437 years of slavery. It's a strawman argument that seeks to undermine the premise of my post.

Nat Turner used biblical principles to slaughter whites in the same fashion KKK terrorists used biblical principles to justify the killing of blacks.

So my point is, the white man used Christianity to justify slavery as a "ruse" (meaning that they never believed any of that stuff. But found it effective as a control mechanism). A quote from the Gibbons sums it up nicely, "The common people find religion all equally true, the thinkers and philosophers find religion all equally false, and the magistrates and governments find religion all equally useful."

By the way..... it was a brainwashed black Christian who snitched on Nat Turner, which eventually led to his hanging.

 

[The_Jackal]

I'm not even going to derail the thread but that whole essay you wrote is ridiculously biased, generalized, and wrong. I especially love how we ignore the first armed slaved revolt being led by an slave pastor.

Can you direct me the right path, because I know there were 200 slave revolts prior to Nat Turner.

People have to realize this today's black church is nothing like the church in our grandparents heyday. They actually organized and had the Deacon's Armed group and such.

There was anarmed slave revolts in USA by Africans before Nat Turner. I can guarantee there was not. As far as three current day church you and others have to understand ever since Martin Luther the church has in all egions of the world has been fractured.

 

[Ajackson17]

I'm not even going to derail the thread but that whole essay you wrote is ridiculously biased, generalized, and wrong. I especially love how we ignore the first armed slaved revolt being led by an slave pastor.

Can you direct me the right path, because I know there were 200 slave revolts prior to Nat Turner.

People have to realize this today's black church is nothing like the church in our grandparents heyday. They actually organized and had the Deacon's Armed group and such.

There was anarmed slave revolts in USA by Africans before Nat Turner. I can guarantee there was not. As far as three current day church you and others have to understand ever since Martin Luther the church has in all egions of the world has been fractured.

Yeah, the churches fragmented especially during the 80s when they brought that tax bill.

 

[Ajackson17]

But I need to read up on some more rebellions. Stono rebellion I'm reading up on.

 

[The_Jackal]

I'm not even going to derail the thread but that whole essay you wrote is ridiculously biased, generalized, and wrong. I especially love how we ignore the first armed slaved revolt being led by an slave pastor.

Can you direct me the right path, because I know there were 200 slave revolts prior to Nat Turner.

People have to realize this today's black church is nothing like the church in our grandparents heyday. They actually organized and had the Deacon's Armed group and such.

There was anarmed slave revolts in USA by Africans before Nat Turner. I can guarantee there was not. As far as three current day church you and others have to understand ever since Martin Luther the church has in all egions of the world has been fractured.

Yeah, the churches fragmented especially during the 80s when they brought that tax bill.

Church's will never be synced together. Even today the great schism has a profound effect on European and American Church's. To much Ego and pride

 

[kingblaze84]

@Thejackal

I would acknowledge that the slave rebellions that occurred in Haiti, had a SIGNIFICANT impact on Haitians, defeating the French, and thus obtaining independence.

However, the slave rebellions in the U.S, are merely a footnote in the larger context of 437 years of slavery. It's a strawman argument that seeks to undermine the premise of my post.

Nat Turner used biblical principles to slaughter whites in the same fashion KKK terrorists used biblical principles to justify the killing of blacks.

So my point is, the white man used Christianity to justify slavery as a "ruse" (meaning that they never believed any of that stuff. But found it effective as a control mechanism). A quote from the Gibbons sums it up nicely, "The common people find religion all equally true, the thinkers and philosophers find religion all equally false, and the magistrates and governments find religion all equally useful."

By the way..... it was a brainwashed black Christian who snitched on Nat Turner, which eventually led to his hanging.

Exactly, and we remember what Christians in Virginia did after they tortured and burned Nat.....they made slavery even more fucked up and Christian politicians and preachers were among the biggest cheerleaders for slavery and genocide all throughout the Americas.