God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve

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bugsy0911;2284547 said:
So is incest. Your argument for it being natural is a bit rubbish. It isn't.

All human behavior is 'natural' because the brain is a physical entity that's subject to the same physical laws of causality that everything else in the universe is subject to. It's impossible to behave "unnaturally" and even if it weren't, why should we prefer wars, poverty, disease etc. (all 'natural') over vaccinations, antibiotics, modern technology etc. (all 'unnatural')?

If you mean it's 'unnatural' in that it's learned/cultural, you're wrong. Most likely, genetics and prenatal exposure to certain hormones are responsible for homosexuality.

Incestuous couples should also be allowed to marry.
 
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I am from the city without a state (DC) and I got wind from some Homosexual dude that I worked with around the cap hill area that said that he had tons of friends that would meet up with congressmen after hours for sex and coke. Same niggas who vote in favor of Christian interest, getting theirs on the low. No record of this by me just what was told. Soon after he said that shit, the news was out on niggas like Mark Foley, Mark Kirk, Mark Souder.........
 
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Huruma;2284576 said:
All human behavior is 'natural' because the brain is a physical entity that's subject to the same physical laws of causality that everything else in the universe is subject to. It's impossible to behave "unnaturally" and even if it weren't, why should we prefer wars, poverty, disease etc. (all 'natural') over vaccinations, antibiotics, modern technology etc. (all 'unnatural')?

If you mean it's 'unnatural' in that it's learned/cultural, you're wrong. Most likely, genetics and prenatal exposure to certain hormones are responsible for homosexuality.
Incestuous couples should also be allowed to marry.

SMH. Everytime you talk I just want to smack you and tell you go outside but I don't have the patience to go back and forth with you since regardless of what I say to you, it wont sway what you already believe. You're young, and a bit of a psuedo-intellectual. Good luck with that.
 
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I mean if you gay just go be gay and deal with your choice. Dont go making it seem like you need specail rights and laws rewritten just beacause you CHOOSE something out of the norm.
 
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let them fags get married.
they'll be miserable & get divorced just like the rest of us.
that's more money for the courts, duhhh.

sidenote: dykes be violent tho. like i've seen some lesbians get skulldragged by they bitch. i be like "damn."
 
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I think the last argument against Gay marriage used a sports analogy... comparing a heterosexual marriage to tennis. If both people decide to commit to play "tennis" with each other for ever, it represents the sexual exclusivity between a husband and a wife ...a privileged and highly prized bonding activity. were nothing else is comparable...lol

The other point they made was that ... Yes they're infertile women and men... but they're still initially partaking in an activity (tennis) which is highly structured, organized, and designed to win games even when you lose.

So for the infertile couples.. their marriage is losing outchea.

so many holes
 
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The focus on gay marriages actually worries me. Personally, I don't care about what they do. But America being so hard pressed to give a damn makes me wonder if there is something else behind this. I wouldn't be surprise if this anti-gay marriage campaign is being fueled by ulterior motives.
 
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wmj710;2284646 said:
I mean if you gay just go be gay and deal with your choice. Dont go making it seem like you need specail rights and laws rewritten just beacause you CHOOSE something out of the norm.

Gay people don't choose to be gay, that's just how they are. Think about what you're saying - you're saying people who are straight are choosing to be gay. I'm assuming you're straight and I'm sure the idea of doing some gay shit would be the last thing you would want to do. Therefore if you would never choose to be gay, why do you think other straight people would?

Anyway back to the original question, one of the main arguments I hear as to why gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry is because they can't have children. Statistics show that a stable marriage is the best environment in which to raise children. Children benefit from having a mother and a father. By allowing gay marriage society is devaluing marriage as a means of raising children. Personally I don't agree with this view as I don't see marriage as being predominantly about having children.
 
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Huruma;2284189 said:
And homosexuality is 'natural' and found in almost all animal species.

Have they found more than one male in a species who is 'dedicated' to liking only other males? Their lineage wouldn't go far. It's only 'homosexual' behavior that is found in nature. They aren't doing it because they like the same sex but because they will hump either sex. Dogs for instance, will hump you friends legs, is the dog inter-species sexuality?
 
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Statistics show that a stable marriage is the best environment in which to raise children. Children benefit from having a mother and a father. But America being so hard pressed to give a damn makes me wonder if there is something else behind this.
 
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Huruma;2284096 said:
I would like to hear a valid, secular argument against gay marriage. I have never in my life come across one.

Marriage is not a Christian idea, it's found in almost all (if not all) cultures. Even if the 'traditional' definition of Western marriage has always involved a man and a woman, the traditional definition of marriage in most cultures (except maybe for hunter-gatherer cultures), including Western culture, has been an economic exchange between a man and his father in law. Women have traditionally been considered property or at least subservient, the idea of marriage being a union between equals and an expression of romantic love is relatively recent. The traditional definition of 'person' in the United States doesn't (entirely) include Black people and Canada didn't legally regard women as persons until 1929, women have traditionally not held the right to vote, southern states have not traditionally allowed interracial marriages etc. Countless traditions have been discarded when general consensus has come to view those traditions as unethical or irrational. There's nothing sacred about tradition, culture evolves.

I'm not even sure why marriage should be a legal institution to begin with but as long as it remains one, there is no legal or moral justification for denying an entire group of people (homosexuals) the same legal privileges and opportunities that another group (heterosexuals) has. Denying gays the legal right to get married and have the legal privileges that marriage, and not just civil unions, provide is no different than denying people of color/women the right to public facilities, the same education as whites, the right to vote etc.

Simple logic.

More smart dumb nigga shit. Funny how you frequently hide idiotic presuppositions underneath loaded questions and polysyllabic ramblings.
 
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jonlakadeadmic;2284142 said:
idc just dont be doin anything in public

Co-sizzle

Im apathetic to this issue. But more so because like a good neighbour I mind my business. As Chris Rock says "Gays have a right to be as miserable as everyone else"
 
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Who gives a fuck who gets married, straight people failing harder at marriage than ever before and you want to talk about the sanctity of marriage, fuck outta here.
 
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raevanaa;2284747 said:
let them fags get married.

they'll be miserable & get divorced just like the rest of us.

that's more money for the courts, duhhh.

sidenote: dykes be violent tho. like i've seen some lesbians get skulldragged by they bitch. i be like "damn."

No offense But I would let you skulldrag me. I see your sleeves too not bad good luck at the office LOL just playing
 
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