God didn't tell us EVERYTHING for a reason

[Rock_Well]

Heaven is not for man.

elaborate please?

 

[kids in america_]

elaborate please?

I am just telling you that you don’t get to go to 'heaven'. I don’t get to go there either, in fact none of us humans get to go there. The ‘bible’ itself does not say anything about people going to 'heaven'.

 

[Rock_Well]

I am just telling you that you don’t get to go to 'heaven'. I don’t get to go there either, in fact none of us humans get to go there. The ‘bible’ itself does not say anything about people going to 'heaven'.

first time i heard that one. how can u be so sure? book chapter and verse plz

 

[Israelites]

first time i heard that one. how can u be so sure? book chapter and verse plz

You serious?

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Theres no heaven nor hell.

Just space and God.

 

[kids in america_]

first time i heard that one. how can u be so sure? book chapter and verse plz

Read this!

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down

from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 3:13 KJV

Jesus is telling us here that there is no human being who has ascended to ‘heaven’.

 

[Rock_Well]

You serious?

could be

Read this!

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down

from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 3:13 KJV

Jesus is telling us here that there is no human being who has ascended to ‘heaven’.

well then we have a problem with (II Kings 2:11) which states - "Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven"

 

[Israelites]

could be

well then we have a problem with (II Kings 2:11) which states - "Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven"

where is the rest of this chapter to see exactly what they were speaking on? & which heaven was he taken to?

 

[kids in america_]

could be

well then we have a problem with (II Kings 2:11) which states - "Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven"

Yes, Elijah went to 'heaven', meaning the sky above us. There is no reason to believe that Elijah was carried up to any other 'heaven' than that which the birds travel in. The text does not indicate that he went to the 'heaven' that you are thinking of.

 

[Rock_Well]

Okay, but humans still go to Hades, the realm of the dead, when they die right?

 

[runningwolf1980]

Okay, but humans still go to Hades, the realm of the dead, when they die right?

fact is no one knows for sure......

 

[kids in america_]

Okay, but humans still go to Hades, the realm of the dead, when they die right?

What I’ve gathered from ‘biblical’ text, the dead 'goes' nowhere. They are just dead. While being dead, a person is totally unconscious. For out of the ground, we were taken for the dust we are. And to the dust we shall return.

 

[Israelites]

What I’ve gathered from ‘biblical’ text, the dead 'goes' nowhere. They are just dead. While being dead, a person is totally unconscious. For out of the ground, we were taken for the dust we are. And to the dust we shall return.

Exactly....