God didn't tell us EVERYTHING for a reason

[VIBE]

We know a lot more today than they did back then. We can do things that they couldn't. The things that they did try was said to be only done by God. We've accomplished what they didn't know.

So what does God not want us to know?

 

[b*braze]

This just something that's been on my mind the past few days.

I think people that have an interest in religion, particularly those with an interest towards the Bible, would seriously benefit from accepting that God purposely chose not to tell us everything.

What He DID tell us, is everything we need to do to reach Heaven. However, there is a lot of stuff He chose NOT to reveal. And some of us would be a bit better off accepting the fact that there's a lot of things that's just NOT for us to know.

This really is an important distinction to be made by each person. There is a such thing as wanting to know things that you ought NOT KNOW. Those who violate this, risk putting the ultimate course of their lives on an even worse path without knowing it.

Now watch how many people go get a psychic reading tonight.

Cmon son...

Just say you don't like learning, lol.

Or are you only referring to that psychic, fortune teller crap which is just as fake and also preys on the stupidity of people.

 

[alissowack]

To me, I think people are more interested in gaining knowledge about God than "getting to know" God. People have tried to get to know Him and find themselves feeling betrayed. People have tried to devote themselves to prayer and the sacraments only to not feel any closer to God than they first started. There is not the sense of relating to God; no trust so they resort to a "safe" approach...getting the facts about God.

 

[Rock_Well]

We know a lot more today than they did back then. We can do things that they couldn't. The things that they did try was said to be only done by God. We've accomplished what they didn't know.

So what does God not want us to know?

the second coming of Jesus for example. Or the day of someone's death. Or things on another person's mind. Certain things going on in government.

serving him is all we need to kno

Yes. That's man's all.

Cmon son...

Just say you don't like learning, lol.

Or are you only referring to that psychic, fortune teller crap which is just as fake and also preys on the stupidity of people.

haha yea mainly that's what i'm targeting...^ Also stuff like what's going on in government, and other realms that we don't really have the ability to see into.

For the sake of balance though i will add, there's a lot of things He didn't tell us in the Bible that he provides means for us to learn elsewhere. Things like martial arts, how to play basketball, how to learn math...stuff like that that neither deals with right or wrong or spirituality.

But i'm mainly talking about religious and spiritual things that really only God knows (but yet other people claim to have 'secret' knowledge of) or things and events of the future that ISN'T revealed in scripture.

...Priceless

u know...like just imagine if the Jews knew and had foreknowledge that Jesus would be resurrected and ascend into Heaven after he was slain...oh how that knowledge would've affected their decisions

To me, I think people are more interested in gaining knowledge about God than "getting to know" God. People have tried to get to know Him and find themselves feeling betrayed. People have tried to devote themselves to prayer and the sacraments only to not feel any closer to God than they first started. There is not the sense of relating to God; no trust so they resort to a "safe" approach...getting the facts about God.

yea, cause a lot can be learned about God even with just looking at nature. But people seem to forget God has a 'law' also....more people should get to know God through that as well.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Do you teach a baby the secrets of the world?He´s not going to understand it.GIVE TIME, TIME.IN THE BIBLE ALWAYS SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH.SO GOD IS NOT AGAINST SCIENCE.HE MADE IT ANYWAYS.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

To me, I think people are more interested in gaining knowledge about God than "getting to know" God. People have tried to get to know Him and find themselves feeling betrayed. People have tried to devote themselves to prayer and the sacraments only to not feel any closer to God than they first started. There is not the sense of relating to God; no trust so they resort to a "safe" approach...getting the facts about God.

Hard to know anyone else if you don't know yourself.

 

[Israelites]

Everything we need to know is in the bible, All the secerts from the Most High was revealed to His prophets.... & if one doesn't understand what's written is one thing but all we need to know is in the scriptures, from what happens after we die to the 2nd coming of Jesus... but most "scc" love making up their own doctrine or interpreting the Bible to fit their limited beliefs even if it goes directly against whats in the scriptures.

Amos 3:7 (King James Version)

7Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

@ t/s, so what exactly are you speaking of, when you say certain things won't be revealed to us now?

 

[Rock_Well]

@ Israelites - ok, just as another example - in scripture, we aren't given much detail on the specific duties God will have assigned for those of us that make it to Heaven.

Another example - scripture doesn't reveal one way or the next whether there are lifeforms on other planets in the universe, that have beings created in God's image, or if this is the only planet in the entire universe that God is coming to gather His crop from.

Things like the two examples listed above won't be revealed to us until later.

In summary i'm speaking on all things dealing with spiritual matters and/or life that fall exactly within this realm, that may cause a person to 'go beyond what's written' when they have a desire to know about such things, in this current life.

But i think it's interesting that there are some people in the world that will claim to have knowledge on some of these very things that aren't even revealed in scripture.

But me, I do believe that all we need to know about what is Godly & what is right is revealed in scripture only.

 

[alissowack]

Hard to know anyone else if you don't know yourself.

True, but it doesn't mean it ONLY takes yourself to know yourself. Sometimes it takes another person to see what your self can't. In commonality, that is what God represents...the one who ultimately know the self. The details however are debated about.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Sometimes it takes another person to see what your self can't.

But it would still be you seeing/knowing yourself not the other person, they just pointed, and you looked.

 

[alissowack]

But it would still be you seeing/knowing yourself not the other person, they just pointed, and you looked.

But would you see what they see if they didn't point?

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

But would you see what they see if they didn't point?

Depends, do I spend much time looking within? A person adept at looking within will notice most things about themselves before others notice them. Unless of course they happen to encounter one more adept than them. Then the more adept would be able to readily notice things that others don't because they've delved so far within themselves.

 

[alissowack]

Depends, do I spend much time looking within? A person adept at looking within will notice most things about themselves before others notice them. Unless of course they happen to encounter one more adept than them. Then the more adept would be able to readily notice things that others don't because they've delved so far within themselves.

One thing I don't want to do is say that looking within is bad. There is a certain self observation we do make on ourselves. It's just that it's not always good...just as looking outside of ourselves isn't always good. Both extremes could do more harm than good. The one looking within may think he or she don't need the critiques or insights of others and the one looking outward may think the critiques and insights of others has more authority than their own. There is a balance I believe we should have.

 

[VIBE]

the second coming of Jesus for example. Or the day of someone's death. Or things on another person's mind. Certain things going on in government.

Someone's death? God doesn't know someone's death.

Also the things about over gov, what is he supposed to do? Come down and announce to the world what's poppin'?

You said also, above, he might not tell us about another civilization on other planets, why not? Could that be considered as lying to us? Would we then be considered "crazy" for considering life on other planets?

 

[Israelites]

@ Israelites - ok, just as another example - in scripture, we aren't given much detail on the specific duties God will have assigned for those of us that make it to Heaven.Another example - scripture doesn't reveal one way or the next whether there are lifeforms on other planets in the universe, that have beings created in God's image, or if this is the only planet in the entire universe that God is coming to gather His crop from.

Things like the two examples listed above won't be revealed to us until later.

In summary i'm speaking on all things dealing with spiritual matters and/or life that fall exactly within this realm, that may cause a person to 'go beyond what's written' when they have a desire to know about such things, in this current life.

But i think it's interesting that there are some people in the world that will claim to have knowledge on some of these very things that aren't even revealed in scripture.

But me, I do believe that all we need to know about what is Godly & what is right is revealed in scripture only.

I understand what your trying to say, but yet you fail to realize if one wants to learn more about certain things, it shouldn't be a problem to another man as long as that person is rooted in the Word (in order to knock something one must first learn of it fully before giving an opinion on it), So is it wrong to look in History to find out who the true Israelites are, or how the Lord's Sabbath was changed by man to the 1st day of the week to worship the Sun god, or where these so called holidays originated from? Or how the Romans came into power using the bible as a tool to control ppl thru religion?

How can one make assumptions about others & what their doing when they themselves are living contrary to very book they claim to have knowledge of?

specific duties assigned to us? there are specific duties assgined to those that make it into the kingdom & even if the Most High didn't give us duties, one should be happy to make it into the Kingdom regardless.

& for the two examples you used, how do you know it will be revealed to us later? What are the spiritual matters that you feel others try looking for?

Nothing is new under the sun, the same things ppl do today was being done before in those times, which the Mosth High speaks on these things in the Old testament (which must ppl do away with because of their so called unlearned pastor has told them lies about the fullfillment of the Ot) . Nothing should really surprise anyone at this point about what ppl may do or say regarding "spiritual" matters.... Most "scc" don't even understand how the spirit works or what the spririts are.. all they know is the "spirit" of the "holy ghost" which they make it out to be something that it is not.

 

[marc123]

This just something that's been on my mind the past few days.

I think people that have an interest in religion, particularly those with an interest towards the Bible, would seriously benefit from accepting that God purposely chose not to tell us everything.

What He DID tell us, is everything we need to do to reach Heaven. However, there is a lot of stuff He chose NOT to reveal. And some of us would be a bit better off accepting the fact that there's a lot of things that's just NOT for us to know.

This really is an important distinction to be made by each person. There is a such thing as wanting to know things that you ought NOT KNOW. Those who violate this, risk putting the ultimate course of their lives on an even worse path without knowing it.

Now watch how many people go get a psychic reading tonight.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

im sorry but that is complete bullshit. whatever tho.

 

[Rock_Well]

True, but it doesn't mean it ONLY takes yourself to know yourself. Sometimes it takes another person to see what your self can't. In commonality, that is what God represents...the one who ultimately know the self. The details however are debated about.

Yes.

like you mentioned - it's one of those areas in which the truth actually is found in the middle of the two extremes.

Someone's death? God doesn't know someone's death.

No? at least He knows the boundaries of their lives...but i guess that's not the same thing.

Also the things about over gov, what is he supposed to do? Come down and announce to the world what's poppin'?

Not for me. I'm good just trusting that He has it under His control. It's says so in the Bible. He's the one that gave them their office in the first place.

A close friend of mine at times has seemed to have nearly drove himself mad trying to put together, in his mind, stuff concerning what government does. And a lot of the conclusions he puts together is negative, based on selective facts (not all facts). I try to school on how that's not his lane, he needs to leave it alone and let God worry about things like that.

1. You said also, above, he might not tell us about another civilization on other planets, why not? 2.Could that be considered as lying to us? 3. Would we then be considered "crazy" for considering life on other planets?

1. Can't answer that one. If it is true, and we have no way of verifying whether it is or isn't, I'd rather just trust God didn't tell us about it for a reason...if it was something that has to do with our own spiritual good then God always would've told us about it.

2. I think not. How would that be lying?

3. Probably. And I say a good bit of that would depend on how far and long the person dwells in the realm of consideration without any evidences, of any sort, to motivate dwelling there so long.

I understand what your trying to say, but yet you fail to realize if one wants to learn more about certain things, it shouldn't be a problem to another man as long as that person is rooted in the Word (in order to knock something one must first learn of it fully before giving an opinion on it), So is it wrong to look in History to find out who the true Israelites are, or how the Lord's Sabbath was changed by man to the 1st day of the week to worship the Sun god, or where these so called holidays originated from? Or how the Romans came into power using the bible as a tool to control ppl thru religion?

and that is a great point. When having root in the Word, then that's right - really it shouldn't be a problem. But u kno how regardless of where we stand, at times the mind can have a way of playing tricks on us.

I guess it's hard to pinpoint exactly all instances in which it would be better to remain ignorant because the instances in which it would be are circumstantial/incidental.

And nothing wrong with the act of doing history and research to get information....what should be noted is that the act of doing research and gathering information is not proof that the truth was accepted.

How can one make assumptions about others & what their doing when they themselves are living contrary to very book they claim to have knowledge of?

good question

& for the two examples you used, how do you know it will be revealed to us later? What are the spiritual matters that you feel others try looking for?

Oh i mean later in the after-we-die sense.

People that claim to talk to dead spirits and practice that type sorcery stuff. And those who go to men to get reading on things going on in their life or things to come. WOuld you say it's ok for a Christian to delve into those things?

 

[VIBE]

No? at least He knows the boundaries of their lives...but i guess that's not the same thing.

Not for me. I'm good just trusting that He has it under His control. It's says so in the Bible. He's the one that gave them their office in the first place.

1. Can't answer that one. If it is true, and we have no way of verifying whether it is or isn't, I'd rather just trust God didn't tell us about it for a reason...if it was something that has to do with our own spiritual good then God always would've told us about it.

2. I think not. How would that be lying?

3. Probably. And I say a good bit of that would depend on how far and long the person dwells in the realm of consideration without any evidences, of any sort, to motivate dwelling there so long.

Does God say he knows our outcome? If he does could you post that for me? Whatever verse you're talking about anyways and tell me who said that...

So you think God controls the government? I would like to think he could, but he doesn't. If you believe it is in God's control then you believe in 'predestination'?

1. God would've told us about life on another planet. He's told us about the life he created here, everything. God is too prideful to let a creation on another planet go.

2. How would that be lying? God is making it seem like we're the ONLY creation here on this only earth and that there's nothing else out there. I guess the planets are for us to marvel at his awesomeness. So if God isn't saying anything and allowing us to think we're the only ones, life is a lie. How can we trust God? Maybe I think about it differently than you. *shrugs*

3. If you think it is at all possible that God created life on other planets then you should in no way shape or form think that ANYONE is crazy. No matter how far-fetched it sounds. Because, "with God all things are possible".

I'm not a believer in the bible anymore so I'm speaking from a "supposedly says" stand point.

 

[kids in america_]

This just something that's been on my mind the past few days.

I think people that have an interest in religion, particularly those with an interest towards the Bible, would seriously benefit from accepting that God purposely chose not to tell us everything.

What He DID tell us, is everything we need to do to reach Heaven. However, there is a lot of stuff He chose NOT to reveal. And some of us would be a bit better off accepting the fact that there's a lot of things that's just NOT for us to know.

This really is an important distinction to be made by each person. There is a such thing as wanting to know things that you ought NOT KNOW. Those who violate this, risk putting the ultimate course of their lives on an even worse path without knowing it.

Now watch how many people go get a psychic reading tonight.

Heaven is not for man.

 

[Rock_Well]

sry for the delay

Does God say he knows our outcome? If he does could you post that for me? Whatever verse you're talking about anyways and tell me who said that...

It's more like He determined the criteria for whoever would be judged righteous by faith before the world began, and in that sense, He knows our outcome.

i believe this verse sort of touches on that point:

"and he made of one every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed seasons, and the bounds of their habitation;"(Acts 17:26)

So you think God controls the government? I would like to think he could, but he doesn't. If you believe it is in God's control then you believe in 'predestination'?

Yes because God does have a hand in government.

"Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, for wisdom and might are His. And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings;" (Daniel 2:20-21).

In our times, that applies to our presidents.^

as far as predestination, put it like this...there's some specific things that God purposed which can be considered predestined, but that does not mean that we don't have the freedom to choose OUR actions. Notice what this says: "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me; declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done; saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure; Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executes my counsel from a far country: yes, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it."(Isaiah 46:11)

i don't know if you need a break down of that, but it's pretty much letting us know that God intervenes sometimes to bring about an outcome of HIS CHOOSING, despite what men do on this earth. Therefore, He remains in a position of control & power over His creation.

1. God would've told us about life on another planet. He's told us about the life he created here, everything. God is too prideful to let a creation on another planet go.

lol @ the idea that God is prideful. God is not able to think more of Himself than He OUGHT to think. He's exalted above all. Hypothetically speaking, what would life on other planets have to do with US and what God told US to do? Nothing....

2. How would that be lying? God is making it seem like we're the ONLY creation here on this only earth and that there's nothing else out there. I guess the planets are for us to marvel at his awesomeness. So if God isn't saying anything and allowing us to think we're the only ones, life is a lie. How can we trust God? Maybe I think about it differently than you. *shrugs*

Nope, that's not lying. That's just the Lord being silent on the matter....and where the Lord is silent we aren't to appoint ourselves judge on the issue without any evidence to look at.

3. If you think it is at all possible that God created life on other planets then you should in no way shape or form think that ANYONE is crazy. No matter how far-fetched it sounds. Because, "with God all things are possible".

I'm not a believer in the bible anymore so I'm speaking from a "supposedly says" stand point.

Ah, please don't abuse that verse. 'With God all things are possible' doesn't have that broad of an application. It mainly applies to a way of living.

And i my stance in regards to life on other planets is neither here nor there. I really just can't say. It still doesn't change what God HAS spoken about.