George Zimmerman Trial Thread (Found Not Guilty Jesus help us...)

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RACHEL JEANTEL: Well, the jury, they see their facts. My thoughts of the jury, they old, that's old school people. We in a new school, our generation, my generation. So --

PIERS MORGAN: Let's talk about 'creepy ass cracka.' People have said that that is a phrase used by black people, cracka, to describe a white person. Is that true?

JEANTEL: No! Like I said --

MORGAN: How do you spell it, first of all?

JEANTEL: Cracka.

MORGAN: There's no 'e-r,' right?

JEANTEL: No, it's an 'a' at the end.

MORGAN: C-r-a-c-k-a.

JEANTEL: Yeah. And that's a person who act like they're a police [officer], who, like a security guard who acting like -- that's what I said to them. Trayvon said creepy ass cracka.

LOL

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joeLiber;6054960 said:
RACHEL JEANTEL: Well, the jury, they see their facts. My thoughts of the jury, they old, that's old school people. We in a new school, our generation, my generation. So --

PIERS MORGAN: Let's talk about 'creepy ass cracka.' People have said that that is a phrase used by black people, cracka, to describe a white person. Is that true?

JEANTEL: No! Like I said --

MORGAN: How do you spell it, first of all?

JEANTEL: Cracka.

MORGAN: There's no 'e-r,' right?

JEANTEL: No, it's an 'a' at the end.

MORGAN: C-r-a-c-k-a.

JEANTEL: Yeah. And that's a person who act like they're a police [officer], who, like a security guard who acting like -- that's what I said to them. Trayvon said creepy ass cracka.

LOL

She was still .... her

but she spoke real throughout that entire interview.. her mastery of the english language is painful.. however if patiently listen to what she was saying.. there was relevancy to what she said..
 
BIRGGin;6054798 said:
I'm actually surprised more blacks don't embrace this law and what it means for them.

I can't pretend to know what it's like to have my race completely fuck up and create ghettos, but if I lived in one I would appreciate the fact that I would have the ability to defend mine with deadly force.

A lot of white people "created" ghettos. Have you seen some of the ghetto's in Europe? That's if you want to completely ignore the trailer parks and other white ghettos in the US. You can't make yourself look like a complete ignoramus every time you post. That's not the way of the troll.
 
BIRGGin;6054798 said:
I'm actually surprised more blacks don't embrace this law and what it means for them.

I can't pretend to know what it's like to have my race completely fuck up and create ghettos, but if I lived in one I would appreciate the fact that I would have the ability to defend mine with deadly force.

"A ghetto is a part of a city in which members of a minority group live, especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure."

By this definition, how do you completely fuck up and create a ghetto? Oh, and your race? Have you heard of the German and Irish immigrant ghettos in the US? You should be banned for low intelligence as well as racism.

 
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damobb2deep;6054864 said:
joeLiber;6054802 said:
Radio personality Tom Joyner has offered Rachel Jeantel, the friend of Trayvon Martin who spoke to him shortly before he died, a full scholarship to any Historically Black College or University she chooses.

The website Joyner founded, BlackAmericaWeb.com, confirmed the news. Jeantel spoke to Joyner on his radio show Tuesday morning.

businessinsider.com/tom-joyner-offers-rachel-jeantel-a-full-scholarship-2013-7#ixzz2ZEHoGvW1

WTF. Give that scholarship to someone that can benefit from it and actually get into a college, but just needs some finacial help. I guess one of the non-accredited HBCs could lower their standards WAY down just to get her in.

this is the backwards shyt that black people do.... u judge her as uneducated and therefore she should just waste away n the hood.. but a man has seen her been touched by this story and her and said " hey if she wants 2 do something with her life I wanna help her" and u bash that? why cuz she " uneducated?" THIS NIGGA IS OFFERING HER AN EDUCATION smh...

Hopefully she can actually make it, at least then we will not be paying for her forever.
 
pralims;6054865 said:
that chick has to get into college first.

he wont have to pay a dime.

imagine her trynna to apply to spelman

so if she had the drive and incentive 2 go 2 spelman u don't think she can?

u never know this could be the push she needs " 2 do better"...
 
can'tyoutell;6055067 said:
By this definition, how do you completely fuck up and create a ghetto? Oh, and your race? Have you heard of the German and Irish immigrant ghettos in the US? You should be banned for low intelligence as well as racism.

No it's actually quite simple, you got your niggas, such as yourself. Blame everyone else, live in squaller, complain about how the government doesn't come clean up the mess you made while living off it at the same time... The Ghetto.

If it was racial I wouldn't point out white's have the same "niggas", except they live in trailer parks with trash laying all over the place. However a minor difference there is the violence, generally it's spouse abuse and men beating their own mothers and fucking their sisters.

I wouldn't say one is better than the other, nor would I call it racist to point out a fact of life.

If the black community wants to move forward, they'll need to separate themselves from the trash first.
 
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I think the problem with people who support Zimmerman isn't that they are arguing that he got off on a technicality, or that the legal system, even if not fair, did the job it was supposed to do under the conditions provided.

The problem with Zimmerman supporters is that it shows their true inherent nature when they claim that Zimmerman was innocent. Yes, he got off b/c of reasonable doubt. But the fact that his supporters not only argue beyond that, but go on to slander Trayvon Martin as a ruthless thug who started the whole confrontation is just disgusting.
 
mediaite.com/online/ted-nugent-goes-off-the-rails-again-enraged-black-man-child-trayvon-martin-was-a-skittles-hoodie-boy/

Ted Nugent Goes Off The Rails Again: ‘Enraged Black Man-Child’ Trayvon Martin Was A “Skittles Hoodie Boy”

One day after musician Ted Nugent penned a column railing against “dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe” Trayvon Martin, he fired off some more harsh words on WorldNetDaily, calling the late 17-year-old an “enraged black man-child” who was a “Skittles hoodie boy.”

Following George Zimmerman‘s acquittal for the second-degree murder of Martin, Nugent has repeatedly spoken out about the damage he believes this case has done to the defendant’s family, at the hands of the “race-baiting industry,” i.e., Rev. Al Sharpton, President Obama, and Attorney General Eric Holder.

His Tuesday column for WND reiterated that exact belief:

[A]ll thinking people are very relieved that George Zimmerman was found not guilty by the intelligent, justice-driven women of the jury, in spite of the façade presented by the prosecution and forced by the threat of racism by everyone from President Obama, to Eric Holder, the New Black Panther gangstas, NAACP, excuse makers of every stripe and even the governor of Florida, but still this innocent man who simply defended his life from a violent, life-threatening, bloodying, head-and-face slamming attack by an enraged black man-child has so wrongly paid an inexplicable price financially and emotionally.

Nugent went on the lament the fact that the Martin family will “get a huge million-dollar-plus payoff from the gated community just to shut them up” and to “fend off the ambulance chaser racist lawyers for the simple fact that their son was guilty of a vicious, violent attack on a man for no good reason whatsoever.”

And then Nugent went on an all-out assault against the late teenager:

But George Zimmerman and his entire family, innocent of any wrongdoing, have lost everything and will be in debt for a long, long time for having to fight the trumped-up charges that he ‘profiled’ and/or set out to murder the poor, helpless, dope-smoking, dope-peddling, gangsta wannabe, Skittles hoodie boy.

Someone needs to crack mr. shit pants skull...
 
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sully;6055653 said:
I think the problem with people who support Zimmerman isn't that they are arguing that he got off on a technicality, or that the legal system, even if not fair, did the job it was supposed to do under the conditions provided.

The problem with Zimmerman supporters is that it shows their true inherent nature when they claim that Zimmerman was innocent. Yes, he got off b/c of reasonable doubt. But the fact that his supporters not only argue beyond that, but go on to slander Trayvon Martin as a ruthless thug who started the whole confrontation is just disgusting.

the bolded was all I was championing for, I have said all along that Zimmerman was gonna be found NOT GUILTY OF THE CHARGES, BUT HE IS WITHOUT QUESTION GUILTY OF KILLING TRAYVON. It is truely sad that Trayvon lost his life and it brought me no joy to say "I told you so" to many people after the verdict. That's why I hadn't posted much since then.

 
Wild Willie in the A;6055775 said:
sully;6055653 said:
I think the problem with people who support Zimmerman isn't that they are arguing that he got off on a technicality, or that the legal system, even if not fair, did the job it was supposed to do under the conditions provided.

The problem with Zimmerman supporters is that it shows their true inherent nature when they claim that Zimmerman was innocent. Yes, he got off b/c of reasonable doubt. But the fact that his supporters not only argue beyond that, but go on to slander Trayvon Martin as a ruthless thug who started the whole confrontation is just disgusting.

the bolded was all I was championing for, I have said all along that Zimmerman was gonna be found NOT GUILTY OF THE CHARGES, BUT HE IS WITHOUT QUESTION GUILTY OF KILLING TRAYVON. It is truely sad that Trayvon lost his life and it brought me no joy to say "I told you so" to many people after the verdict. That's why I hadn't posted much since then.

The funny thing is, if Trayvon was alive, and Zimmerman had shot him somewhere else, Zimmerman would probably be in jail.

Killing Trayvon effectively kept his ass free.
 
sully;6055653 said:
I think the problem with people who support Zimmerman isn't that they are arguing that he got off on a technicality, or that the legal system, even if not fair, did the job it was supposed to do under the conditions provided.

The problem with Zimmerman supporters is that it shows their true inherent nature when they claim that Zimmerman was innocent. Yes, he got off b/c of reasonable doubt. But the fact that his supporters not only argue beyond that, but go on to slander Trayvon Martin as a ruthless thug who started the whole confrontation is just disgusting.

The problem with Trayvon supporters is that it shows their true inherent nature when they claim that Trayvon was innocent child. But the fact that his supporters not only argue beyond that, but go on to slander Zimmerman as a ruthless killer who deserved to be assaulted just for following someone whom he believed to be acting speciously is just disgusting.
 
washingtonpost.com/opinions/richard-cohen-racism-vs-reality/2013/07/15/4f419eb6-ed7a-11e2-a1f9-ea873b7e0424_story.html?hpid=z2

Racism vs. reality

I don’t like what George Zimmerman did, and I hate that Trayvon Martin is dead. But I also can understand why Zimmerman was suspicious and why he thought Martin was wearing a uniform we all recognize. I don’t know whether Zimmerman is a racist. But I’m tired of politicians and others who have donned hoodies in solidarity with Martin and who essentially suggest that, for recognizing the reality of urban crime in the United States, I am a racist. The hoodie blinds them as much as it did Zimmerman.

One of those who quickly donned a hoodie was Christine Quinn, the speaker of the New York City Council. Quinn was hardly a lonesome panderer. Lesser politicians joined her and, as she did, pronounced Zimmerman a criminal. “What George Zimmerman did was wrong, was a crime,” Quinn said before knowing all of the facts and before the jury uncooperatively found otherwise. She was half-right. What Zimmerman did was wrong. It was not, by verdict of his peers, a crime.

Where is the politician who will own up to the painful complexity of the problem and acknowledge the widespread fear of crime committed by young black males? This does not mean that raw racism has disappeared, and some judgments are not the product of invidious stereotyping. It does mean, though, that the public knows young black males commit a disproportionate amount of crime. In New York City, blacks make up a quarter of the population, yet they represent 78 percent of all shooting suspects — almost all of them young men. We know them from the nightly news.

Those statistics represent the justification for New York City’s controversial stop-and-frisk program, which amounts to racial profiling writ large. After all, if young black males are your shooters, then it ought to be young black males whom the police stop and frisk. Still, common sense and common decency, not to mention the law, insist on other variables such as suspicious behavior. Even still, race is a factor, without a doubt. It would be senseless for the police to be stopping Danish tourists in Times Square just to make the statistics look good.

I wish I had a solution to this problem. If I were a young black male and were stopped just on account of my appearance, I would feel violated. If the police are abusing their authority and using race as the only reason, that has got to stop. But if they ignore race, then they are fools and ought to go into another line of work.

The problems of the black underclass are hardly new. They are surely the product of slavery, the subsequent Jim Crow era and the tenacious persistence of racism. They will be solved someday, but not probably with any existing programs. For want of a better word, the problem is cultural, and it will be solved when the culture, somehow, is changed.

In the meantime, the least we can do is talk honestly about the problem. It does no one any good to merely cite the number of stop-and-frisks involving black males without citing the murder statistics as well. Citing the former and not the latter is an Orwellian exercise in political correctness. It not only censors half of the story but also suggests that racism is the sole reason for the policy. This mindlessness, like racism itself, is repugnant.

Crime where it intersects with race is given the silent treatment. Everything else is discussed — and if it isn’t, there’s a Dr. Phil or an Oprah saying that it should be. Crime, though, is different. It is, like sex in the Victorian era (or the 1950s), an unmentionable but unmistakable part of life. We all know about it and take appropriate precaution but keep our mouths shut.

At one time, I thought Barack Obama would bring the problem into the open and remove the racist stigma. Instead, he perpetuated it. In his acclaimed Philadelphia speech on race, he cited his grandmother as “a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street.”

How about the former Barry Obama? When he was a Columbia University student living on the lip of then-dangerous Harlem, did he never have the same fear?

There’s no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman profiled Martin and, braced by a gun, set off in quest of heroism. The result was a quintessentially American tragedy — the death of a young man understandably suspected because he was black and tragically dead for the same reason.

Read more from Richard Cohen’s archive.

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VIBE;6054516 said:
So, you guys figure out what you're gonna legally do? Or is it still complaining about race?

We are going to organize and start voting to change laws like stand your ground. We are going to distribute pamphlets and paperwork urging black men who can to register for gun licences and how to go about doing that. We are going to push for juror/ jury selection reform so that we don't have all white jurys for black people. Those are a few of the things that I know of that are taking place now. Its a start.

 
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