George Zimmerman Trial Thread (Found Not Guilty Jesus help us...)

[Black Boy King]

Zimmerman is arguing he shot him in self defense... if the judge rules that he is right, then Zimmerman gets off.. no 2nd degree. no manslaughter.. no aggravated assault... because its self defense..

if they find it isnt self defense then it is 2nd degree murder. the prosecution isnt arguin he shot trayvon on accident or anything.. they said it was intentional.. how could that be considered manslaughter? its 2nd degree or self defense, life or free

Not according to this criminal defense attorney
http://www.mediaite.com/online/even...d-manslaughter-he-could-still-serve-25-years/

I'm reading this now

Realistically though, George Zimmerman must hope he is acquitted out right. Because absent a Manslaughter conviction, Judge Nelson would be statutorily required to impose the 25 year mandatory-minimum prison sentence under Florida’s 10-20-Life for any felony but Manslaughter or Felony Battery.

manslaughter doesn't apply here. This guy is saying that Zimmermanians should hope these lesser charges are included else he will be doing at least 25. But he admits, at the very end of the article, that realistically Zimmerman and friends better hope he is acquitted altogether.

huh?

all we're saying is at the close of the trial jury will have a number of lesser included offenses to choose from ...and because of these numerous options, gz could stll face man slaughter charges but not be convicted of murder

no one promised that he will have lesser charges. the article says that all those lesser charges are "likely applicable".

theres no reason for the jury to choose voluntary manslaughter because it was not reasonable for him to believe he needed to kill Trayvon. It is not reasonable for Zimmerman to have seen 'death around the corner'. he wouldve been better off rolling on the ground holding his head when witnesses arrived...

 

[Wild Willie in the A]

yeah my opinion dont have shit to do with nothing, so I dont know why you gotta catch feelings about it... I could give a fuck less if he is found guilty or innocent, I'll go on about my life either way

If you could give a fuck less, then why even entertain the thread? It makes no sense to be so involved with something that you care nothing about. It's a waste of time, in my opinion, and rather asinine.

My interest in this case is due to me having a young son that I will be sending out into this world on his own shortly. With this case, I am using as a tool to remind him that even with all the good he has in him and all the knowledge he possesses, he still has to remember that first and foremost, he is a young black male. The fact that I have to raise him to be strong, yet afraid, is fucked up. Why should I tell him one thing, and have him practice another just because of the color of his skin?

In my opinion, no one is shooting you down for your difference of opinion, because all throughout this thread there has been opposing opinions. It's when it becomes blatantly obvious that the things you are saying is strictly for shock value is when you get called a troll, and rightfully so.

I'm not "so involved" I comment and state opinion just like everyone else, but it seems a few people love to call names and tell people where to go when opinons differ in here.

 

[Wild Willie in the A]

yeah my opinion dont have shit to do with nothing, so I dont know why you gotta catch feelings about it... I could give a fuck less if he is found guilty or innocent, I'll go on about my life either way

If you could give a fuck less, then why even entertain the thread? It makes no sense to be so involved with something that you care nothing about. It's a waste of time, in my opinion, and rather asinine.

My interest in this case is due to me having a young son that I will be sending out into this world on his own shortly. With this case, I am using as a tool to remind him that even with all the good he has in him and all the knowledge he possesses, he still has to remember that first and foremost, he is a young black male. The fact that I have to raise him to be strong, yet afraid, is fucked up. Why should I tell him one thing, and have him practice another just because of the color of his skin?

In my opinion, no one is shooting you down for your difference of opinion, because all throughout this thread there has been opposing opinions. It's when it becomes blatantly obvious that the things you are saying is strictly for shock value is when you get called a troll, and rightfully so.

scroll back and read the commentary, I was givign my opinion and was called a creepy ass cracka.. not saying anything for shock value

 

[playmaker88]

George Zimmeran is a liar imo he is Guilty.. and

They grossly misrepresented his physical capabilities.. this may backfire.. if the prosecution is on their A..

As a prosecutor speaking to the jury id say something like this for starters...

So what is being implied is that George Zimmerman would have never got out of that car.. if he didnt have a gun.. because he was presented as being a meek. soft individual and this gun gave him a confidence a sense of power.. to confront someone.. Which all could have been avoided if he stayed the bitch he was..

Ladies of the Jury.. it is clear to me that this situation was completely avoidable and it is beyond reason to.. Say someone who refers to someone as an asshole and a fucking punk.. had anything but ill will in their heart.. KNOWING they had a gun on them.. knowing that they had the upperhand this whole time.. and knowing that their decisions ultimately led to the death of Trayvon Benjamin Martin.

 

[1of1]

yeah my opinion dont have shit to do with nothing, so I dont know why you gotta catch feelings about it... I could give a fuck less if he is found guilty or innocent, I'll go on about my life either way

If you could give a fuck less, then why even entertain the thread? It makes no sense to be so involved with something that you care nothing about. It's a waste of time, in my opinion, and rather asinine.

My interest in this case is due to me having a young son that I will be sending out into this world on his own shortly. With this case, I am using as a tool to remind him that even with all the good he has in him and all the knowledge he possesses, he still has to remember that first and foremost, he is a young black male. The fact that I have to raise him to be strong, yet afraid, is fucked up. Why should I tell him one thing, and have him practice another just because of the color of his skin?

In my opinion, no one is shooting you down for your difference of opinion, because all throughout this thread there has been opposing opinions. It's when it becomes blatantly obvious that the things you are saying is strictly for shock value is when you get called a troll, and rightfully so.

Ether slung well! And I'm sure you are raising your boy good so I doubt he will suffer the same fate as Travon.

I think much of the concern here is that the events leading up to the physical confrontation can happen whether the young man was "raised well" or not.

 

[Black Boy King]

yeah my opinion dont have shit to do with nothing, so I dont know why you gotta catch feelings about it... I could give a fuck less if he is found guilty or innocent, I'll go on about my life either way

If you could give a fuck less, then why even entertain the thread? It makes no sense to be so involved with something that you care nothing about. It's a waste of time, in my opinion, and rather asinine.

My interest in this case is due to me having a young son that I will be sending out into this world on his own shortly. With this case, I am using as a tool to remind him that even with all the good he has in him and all the knowledge he possesses, he still has to remember that first and foremost, he is a young black male. The fact that I have to raise him to be strong, yet afraid, is fucked up. Why should I tell him one thing, and have him practice another just because of the color of his skin?

In my opinion, no one is shooting you down for your difference of opinion, because all throughout this thread there has been opposing opinions. It's when it becomes blatantly obvious that the things you are saying is strictly for shock value is when you get called a troll, and rightfully so.

I'm not "so involved" I comment and state opinion just like everyone else, but it seems a few people love to call names and tell people where to go when opinons differ in here.

Your avatar isn't very appropriate for a Hip Hop message board, much less when discussing a case of this nature. It's pretty odd for you to be confused about why hostility is directed at you.

 

[Matt-]

whats this stuff about the Dept. of Justice organizing trayvon rallies

 

[gorilla]

then you gotta remember zim saying "oh he's got his hand in his waistband". Now zim has on another occasion admitted that he had a similar incident and he thought the person was just trying to intimidate him. That situation did not lead to an incident.

Now, before gold come in here, yes what I am about to say is speculation, but it's interesting nonetheless, here's why

In the prior incident, where zim said the guy was trying to intimidate him, there was no fight or shooting or confrontation.

This time zim see's someone he's thinks is suspicious again, and says this person put his hand in his waistband, another possible "to intimidate him" scenario. Zim gets frustrated because these assholes always get away , and sure enough the person runs. Now this time, zim follows this fucking punk and this....time............................zim has a gun.....

I'd like to know when zim bought that gun. Would be interesting to see if he had a gun in the previous situation or if he bought it after, to make sure he wouldn't be intimidated again.

 

[playmaker88]

Wooooow. these cats are in flux with their own client

Lol @ West Objecting to the Judge asking Zimmerman if he wants to testify

Kaboom!

 

[Chi Snow]

Uh Oh.....

 

[GettinLo]

LOL @ this dumb nigga... She HATES West

 

[desertrain10]

Zimmerman is arguing he shot him in self defense... if the judge rules that he is right, then Zimmerman gets off.. no 2nd degree. no manslaughter.. no aggravated assault... because its self defense..

if they find it isnt self defense then it is 2nd degree murder. the prosecution isnt arguin he shot trayvon on accident or anything.. they said it was intentional.. how could that be considered manslaughter? its 2nd degree or self defense, life or free

Not according to this criminal defense attorney
http://www.mediaite.com/online/even...d-manslaughter-he-could-still-serve-25-years/

I'm reading this now

Realistically though, George Zimmerman must hope he is acquitted out right. Because absent a Manslaughter conviction, Judge Nelson would be statutorily required to impose the 25 year mandatory-minimum prison sentence under Florida’s 10-20-Life for any felony but Manslaughter or Felony Battery.

manslaughter doesn't apply here. This guy is saying that Zimmermanians should hope these lesser charges are included else he will be doing at least 25. But he admits, at the very end of the article, that realistically Zimmerman and friends better hope he is acquitted altogether.

huh?

all we're saying is at the close of the trial jury will have a number of lesser included offenses to choose from ...and because of these numerous options, gz could stll face man slaughter charges but not be convicted of murder

no one promised that he will have lesser charges. the article says that all those lesser charges are "likely applicable".

theres no reason for the jury to choose voluntary manslaughter because it was not reasonable for him to believe he needed to kill Trayvon. It is not reasonable for Zimmerman to have seen 'death around the corner'. he wouldve been better off rolling on the ground holding his head when witnesses arrived...

lol

again all we're saying that considering that pro may not be able to prove gz's intent was malicious....they may acquit of murder

however if the jury believes that his actions were irresponsible and that he did not reasonably fear for his life gz could be convicted of involuntary/voluntary man slaughter

depends on the judge and jury bruh

 

[gorilla]

oh shit, she came back from lunch angry

how put too much mayo on her sammich?

 

[Chi Snow]

OVERRULED!

She hates West's guts......

 

[playmaker88]

Hes being unreasonable

 

[Mr.LV]

Damn this judge really hates west

 

[Wild Willie in the A]

yeah my opinion dont have shit to do with nothing, so I dont know why you gotta catch feelings about it... I could give a fuck less if he is found guilty or innocent, I'll go on about my life either way

If you could give a fuck less, then why even entertain the thread? It makes no sense to be so involved with something that you care nothing about. It's a waste of time, in my opinion, and rather asinine.

My interest in this case is due to me having a young son that I will be sending out into this world on his own shortly. With this case, I am using as a tool to remind him that even with all the good he has in him and all the knowledge he possesses, he still has to remember that first and foremost, he is a young black male. The fact that I have to raise him to be strong, yet afraid, is fucked up. Why should I tell him one thing, and have him practice another just because of the color of his skin?

In my opinion, no one is shooting you down for your difference of opinion, because all throughout this thread there has been opposing opinions. It's when it becomes blatantly obvious that the things you are saying is strictly for shock value is when you get called a troll, and rightfully so.

I'm not "so involved" I comment and state opinion just like everyone else, but it seems a few people love to call names and tell people where to go when opinons differ in here.

Your avatar isn't very appropriate for a Hip Hop message board, much less when discussing a case of this nature. It's pretty odd for you to be confused about why hostility is directed at you.

Understood, but the avatar to me symbolizes NO COONING...lets just move on, if you disagree with something I post so be it, but the extraness is not needed.

 

[Matt-]

i'm scared that if he is not guilty, its gonna be "beat whitey night" all over again

AUGUST 24--Police are investigating whether a series of assaults at the Iowa State Fair were racially motivated since the attackers reportedly announced it was “Beat Whitey Night” during one attack.

According to a Des Moines Police Department report, a group of young black assailants pummeled a white fairgoer Friday night, an assault that cops believe may have racial overtones due to what was said by the attackers.

A report by Sgt. David Murillo noted that, “officers at the fairgrounds advise there was a group of 30-40 individuals roaming the fairgrounds openly calling it ‘Beat Whitey Night.’” The victim, 36-year-old Jammie Carroll, suffered “severe injuries to his eyes, cheekbones, and nose,” and was hospitalized at Mercy Medical Center with multiple facial contusions.

Cops are examining other reported incidents at the fairgrounds since groups of black juveniles appeared to be singling out white victims. During one of these confrontations Sunday evening, two police officers were injured trying to break up a brawl (which resulted in five arrests).

A second police report notes that the Sunday incident again involved “a large fight with black male and female juveniles assaulting white citizens."

The motto for the fair, which closed Sunday, was "Non Stop Fun."

 

[bgoat]

She shoulda slapped his ass

 

[playmaker88]

Beat whitey night sounds legit..

Matt keep on posting that nonsensical bullshit its furthers the convo.. go on

KYS