George Zimmerman Trial Thread (Found Not Guilty Jesus help us...)

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I saw it on CNN, but it was just flashed, I may have copied it wrong as I wasn't ready to post when it popped up.

As was said the numbers don't add up, unless more ethnicities are offsetting it.

There is also my last post, which has conflicting numbers. Edit: Though this could be because stand your ground can be used without fatalities and the second item I posted looked at fatalities only I believe.
 
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then during the interview....she even did the white girl cry and said she feels like she knows gorge and doesnt really know that much about tryavon.
 
bitch now saying...she hopes ha can get peace and he can forget.

aint this a bitch....this hoe is why shit will never get corrected.

where the whiteboys at now...

let me hear you defend this fukkery.

shes saying gz was on guilty of not using sense...but that trayvon felt like he wanted to get one up on him an got in over his head. and goorge had no choice ....she wanted to find him guilty of something...but she couldn't
 
texasdaking88;6058900 said:
Gold_Certificate;6058867 said:
Gold_Certificate;6058829 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBKogMxbRAU
Spooner's defense attorney concedes that Spooner killed Simmons but says the issue is whether he had intent to kill.
LOL. Now his defense has their work cut out for them.

Lol, man u aint shit.. how n the fuck he get bail tho
Must've thought he was too old to flee.
 
She confirmed beyond doubt that those scary ass white women were caught up in the "thug" image the defense weasel asses portrayed. It coulda been fuckin hitler on trial and they woulda acquitted him due to the what Ima call the boogieman factor

 
don't know if this has been posted yet but....

Stevie Wonder Says He Won’t Play in Florida Because of Stand Your Ground Law



By JAMES C. MCKINLEY JR.

Protesting the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the killing of the black teenager Trayvon Martin, Stevie Wonder said on Sunday that he will not play a concert in Florida until the state repeals its Stand Your Ground law, which makes it harder to prosecute people who claim they killed someone in self-defense, NBC reported.

“I decided today that until the Stand Your Ground law is abolished in Florida I will never perform there again,” Mr. Wonder said during a concert in Quebec City. “Wherever I find that law exists I will not perform in that state or that part of the world.”

The trial focused attention on Florida’s expansive self-defense law, and its Stand Your Ground provision. That provision allows people to use lethal force to defend themselves if they “reasonably believe” they might be killed or suffer severe injuries, even if they can retreat from the conflict, setting a low bar that makes prosecuting such cases difficult. About two dozen states have similar laws.

Like almost everything else in the trial of Mr. Zimmerman, the role of the Stand Your Ground provision in the jury’s decision to acquit him is unclear. Mr. Zimmerman’s defense did not invoke the provision, arguing instead that he could not have retreated from the fight on the night of Feb. 26, 2012, because Mr. Martin had pinned him to the ground and was hitting him. Still, the judge specifically mentioned the provision when she gave the jury its instructions, so it may have been a factor in the jury’s deliberations.

For many people upset about the outcome of the trial, however, the provision has become a focus of anger. Some argue that such laws, coupled with gun laws allowing citizens to carry concealed guns, encourage the kind of confrontations that led to Mr. Martin’s death.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-in-florida-because-of-stand-your-ground-law/
 
desertrain10;6059541 said:
don't know if this has been posted yet but....

Stevie Wonder Says He Won’t Play in Florida Because of Stand Your Ground Law



By JAMES C. MCKINLEY JR.

Protesting the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the killing of the black teenager Trayvon Martin, Stevie Wonder said on Sunday that he will not play a concert in Florida until the state repeals its Stand Your Ground law, which makes it harder to prosecute people who claim they killed someone in self-defense, NBC reported.

“I decided today that until the Stand Your Ground law is abolished in Florida I will never perform there again,” Mr. Wonder said during a concert in Quebec City. “Wherever I find that law exists I will not perform in that state or that part of the world.”

The trial focused attention on Florida’s expansive self-defense law, and its Stand Your Ground provision. That provision allows people to use lethal force to defend themselves if they “reasonably believe” they might be killed or suffer severe injuries, even if they can retreat from the conflict, setting a low bar that makes prosecuting such cases difficult. About two dozen states have similar laws.

Like almost everything else in the trial of Mr. Zimmerman, the role of the Stand Your Ground provision in the jury’s decision to acquit him is unclear. Mr. Zimmerman’s defense did not invoke the provision, arguing instead that he could not have retreated from the fight on the night of Feb. 26, 2012, because Mr. Martin had pinned him to the ground and was hitting him. Still, the judge specifically mentioned the provision when she gave the jury its instructions, so it may have been a factor in the jury’s deliberations.

For many people upset about the outcome of the trial, however, the provision has become a focus of anger. Some argue that such laws, coupled with gun laws allowing citizens to carry concealed guns, encourage the kind of confrontations that led to Mr. Martin’s death.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-in-florida-because-of-stand-your-ground-law/

Stevie the GOAT. Now if we could only get the other big artists to follow suit and show that we're not playing.
 
My prayers are with all those who have the influence and power to modify the laws that left me with no verdict option other than 'not guilty' in order to remain within the instructions. No other family should be forced to endure what the Martin family has endured," she wrote.

The juror, who was interviewed by CNN, said she will not grant other interviews and wants to get back to a normal life. "For reasons of my own, I needed to speak alone," she said.

She issued the statement after four other jurors said the opinions she expressed on "Anderson Cooper 360" were "her own, and not in any way representative" of all the jurors

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her CNN interview, which aired in two parts Monday and Tuesday nights on AC360, the juror said she believes Zimmerman didn't do anything unlawful and was "justified" in shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The six-woman jury acquitted Zimmerman Saturday night.

The juror said on AC360 she wanted to find Zimmerman guilty of "not using his senses," but added, "You can't charge him with anything because he didn't do anything unlawful."

Zimmerman "started the ball rolling" and could have avoided the situation by staying in his car, she said.

The neighborhood watch captain had called police about a suspicious person, and was told by a 911 dispatcher not to pursue the person.

"But he wanted to do good. I think he had good in his heart, he just went overboard," the juror said.

Zimmerman's defense team argued that he shot Martin in an act of self-defense while being attacked.

Asked by CNN whether she thought Zimmerman was within his rights, the juror was unequivocal: "He was justified in shooting Trayvon Martin."

 
Matt-;6059871 said:
My prayers are with all those who have the influence and power to modify the laws that left me with no verdict option other than 'not guilty' in order to remain within the instructions. No other family should be forced to endure what the Martin family has endured," she wrote.

The juror, who was interviewed by CNN, said she will not grant other interviews and wants to get back to a normal life. "For reasons of my own, I needed to speak alone," she said.

She issued the statement after four other jurors said the opinions she expressed on "Anderson Cooper 360" were "her own, and not in any way representative" of all the jurors

.

her CNN interview, which aired in two parts Monday and Tuesday nights on AC360, the juror said she believes Zimmerman didn't do anything unlawful and was "justified" in shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The six-woman jury acquitted Zimmerman Saturday night.

The juror said on AC360 she wanted to find Zimmerman guilty of "not using his senses," but added, "You can't charge him with anything because he didn't do anything unlawful."

Zimmerman "started the ball rolling" and could have avoided the situation by staying in his car, she said.

The neighborhood watch captain had called police about a suspicious person, and was told by a 911 dispatcher not to pursue the person.

"But he wanted to do good. I think he had good in his heart, he just went overboard," the juror said.

Zimmerman's defense team argued that he shot Martin in an act of self-defense while being attacked.

Asked by CNN whether she thought Zimmerman was within his rights, the juror was unequivocal: "He was justified in shooting Trayvon Martin."

im watching cnn and heard the interview....so your telling me she sounds partial?

do you think she can think outside of her privilege and how she veiw america?

she is clearly laying the whole thing on trayvon but goerge should have not go out the car.

so like i said early....everyone put the whole situation in the hands of a 17 yr old. the 17 yr old had to make the right decision or he was green lighted to get killed.

she sounds so matter of factly when saying he should have went home.

fuked up part about all this is...

no one is showing remorse.

if it was a mistake....where is the remorse. no one is sorry because they think he deserved it.

the next time i see a whiteman walking with a hoodie can i say he looks suspicious? because its been alot of child molesting in the catholic church....so i guess he deserves to be followed an when he turns to ask what imm doing i can kill him...because he should have kept going home...
 
On Monday night, Juror B37 broke the silence of the jury in the trial of George Zimmerman and spoke anonymously to Anderson Cooper about her thoughts and reflections on the trial. If anyone was still clinging to the blind assertion that race played no part in this trial, Juror B37 eviscerated that assumption.

To be clear, no one can understand the inner workings of Juror B37's mind, or what her intentions were. And yet, Juror B37 words reflected more sympathy and compassion for the oppressor than the oppressed, she helped peel back the layers of both unconscious and overt racism that underwrote the killing of Trayvon Martin, the trial of his killer George Zimmerman, and the ultimate verdict of not guilty. A jury comprised entirely of women, five of whom were white, sent Zimmerman free. And though many are horrified, we should not be surprised.

Juror B37 seems to have a sort of sympathy for George Zimmerman, and her rhetoric is telling. “I think he was frustrated with the whole situation in the neighborhood, with the break-ins and the robberies ... I think just circumstances caused George to think that he might be a robber, or trying to do something bad in the neighborhood because of all that had gone on previously.” Note that she calls the defendant by his first name. Perhaps it was unintentional, as she calls Trayvon Martin by his first name as well. But the choice to use the defendant in a murder trial's first name reflects a construction of George Zimmerman as the protector of white women and of white, civilized decency. Rhetorically, "George" is the hero. "Zimmerman" is the defendant in a murder trial.

What’s more, the juror infers that Zimmerman’s assumption that Trayvon Martin was a “robber” or another kind of criminal is almost understandable and seemingly justifiable. Juror B37's rhetoric reflects the predominant American assumption that young black men like Trayvon Martin are criminals who are terrorizing and destroying decent (in other words, white) neighborhoods. In her eyes, George Zimmerman was right to assume that Trayvon Martin was a criminal because to Juror B37, Trayvon Martin probably already was.

This line of thinking, that George Zimmerman was protecting the neighborhood and notably, white women, from a potential criminal, was a crucial aspect of the defense team's argument. Over at The Nation, Mychal Denzel Smith cogently dissected Defense Attorney Mark O’Mara’s use of George Zimmerman’s white female neighbor, Olivia Bertalan, as a prop in the racist construction of Trayvon Martin as a criminal threat to white women’s safety.

According to Smith, “O’Mara presented the jury with the ‘perfect victim,’ which Trayvon could never be: a white woman living in fear of black criminals.” The best way to convince a mostly white, female jury that George Zimmerman was innocent was to criminalize Trayvon Martin. George Zimmerman was never on trial; black masculinity was.

This kind of racist paternalism, the idea that women need to be protected from violent black men, underwrote much of this trial and was reflected in Juror B37’s deeply troubling words. Juror B37's comments reflect Defense Attorney Mark O’Mara’s racist bait that Trayvon Martin was an inherently suspicious, criminal, and perhaps violent character, simply because he was black, and that white women like her and defense Olivia Bertalan were better off because Zimmerman did what needed to be done to protect them.

Never mind that George Zimmerman is the one with a history of domestic violence, who was charged with assaulting a police officer, who has been charged with felonies and misdemeanors multiple times. In that altercation, Juror B37's word reflect a construction of George Zimmerman as the “protector” of white womanhood. George Zimmerman seemingly racially profiled, shot, and killed a young black teenager, and Juror B37 seemingly saw nothing wrong with that because white women continue to internalize, normalize, and implicitly perpetuate the myth of black aggressive masculinity.

“Defending white womanhood” has long been a racist ploy to demonize and criminalize black men. Black men have been perceived as inherently violent and overly sexually aggressive for centuries. The stereotype of the brute black man, terrorizing white women and respectable communities, has been used to demonize and criminalize black men since the dawn of this white supremacist nation. The Scottsboro Boys. Ronald Cotton. Brian Banks. Emmett Till. The list of black men falsely accused or killed for violating the norms of decency against white women is as long as it is tragic, and it is not a problem solely of the past.

As feminist writer Jessica Valenti noted, “white women — all of us — are taught to fear men of color,” and she’s right. Whether explicit or implicit, white women learn to cling their purses close to their body, to walk a little faster down the street, or to lock their car doors when in the presence of men of color, namely black men. This is a kind of daily racism in which all white women participate, whether consciously or not, because we so often allow it to go unchecked, even in ourselves. We cling to the racist notion that black men rape white women with impunity, when in reality, 90% of rapes occur between people of the same race and economic class.

We white women all too often refuse to examine our own racism, content that because we would never say the “n-word,” we aren’t racist. This lie we tell ourselves, that we aren’t racist, that we don’t contribute to racism, that we aren’t complacent in racism, does nothing to end the senseless and continuous killing of black men and the criminalization of blackness in America.

So while Juror B37's words were insidiously hurtful, they were also compellingly revelatory. This trial, this verdict, this killing, was always about race. With black men in America, it always is.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/55035/what-juror-b37-s-comments-reveal-about-white-womanhood
 
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pralims;6059967 said:
Matt-;6059871 said:
My prayers are with all those who have the influence and power to modify the laws that left me with no verdict option other than 'not guilty' in order to remain within the instructions. No other family should be forced to endure what the Martin family has endured," she wrote.

The juror, who was interviewed by CNN, said she will not grant other interviews and wants to get back to a normal life. "For reasons of my own, I needed to speak alone," she said.

She issued the statement after four other jurors said the opinions she expressed on "Anderson Cooper 360" were "her own, and not in any way representative" of all the jurors

.

her CNN interview, which aired in two parts Monday and Tuesday nights on AC360, the juror said she believes Zimmerman didn't do anything unlawful and was "justified" in shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The six-woman jury acquitted Zimmerman Saturday night.

The juror said on AC360 she wanted to find Zimmerman guilty of "not using his senses," but added, "You can't charge him with anything because he didn't do anything unlawful."

Zimmerman "started the ball rolling" and could have avoided the situation by staying in his car, she said.

The neighborhood watch captain had called police about a suspicious person, and was told by a 911 dispatcher not to pursue the person.

"But he wanted to do good. I think he had good in his heart, he just went overboard," the juror said.

Zimmerman's defense team argued that he shot Martin in an act of self-defense while being attacked.

Asked by CNN whether she thought Zimmerman was within his rights, the juror was unequivocal: "He was justified in shooting Trayvon Martin."

im watching cnn and heard the interview....so your telling me she sounds partial?

do you think she can think outside of her privilege and how she veiw america?

she is clearly laying the whole thing on trayvon but goerge should have not go out the car.

so like i said early....everyone put the whole situation in the hands of a 17 yr old. the 17 yr old had to make the right decision or he was green lighted to get killed.

she sounds so matter of factly when saying he should have went home.

fuked up part about all this is...

no one is showing remorse.

if it was a mistake....where is the remorse. no one is sorry because they think he deserved it.

the next time i see a whiteman walking with a hoodie can i say he looks suspicious? because its been alot of child molesting in the catholic church....so i guess he deserves to be followed an when he turns to ask what imm doing i can kill him...because he should have kept going home...

i think she is saying that the law is messed up and/or the case that the DAs made was weak. I'm guessing they all felt GZ was wrong in killing that boy, but under the guidelines they were given and the evidence they had to consider, he wasn't unlawful. Thats what i got from it.
 
Saddest part of this whole situation is if zimmerman never profiled that kid and followed him he'd be alive

Being a blacc on a sunday night cost him his life.If trayvon was white or hispanic zimmerman would of never assumed he was up to no good causing him to say "They're always getting away with this" and following him wit his pistol.He basically profiled,followed and killed a blacc kid cuz of HIS suspicions
 
Tommy bilfiger;6060235 said:
Saddest part of this whole situation is if zimmerman never profiled that kid and followed him he'd be alive

Saddest part is the disconnect people have with the facts.

The fact that Trayvon already went home, the fact that he came back, the fact that he assaulted Zimmerman and was killed with justified force.

That's the saddest part of this whole race whining.
 
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